Chicago: Experiencing Shootings every week, Going Unnoticed

The Dark King said:
Teach skills for people to get one of the 3 million skilled labor jobs available in this country. Stop closing schools and educate these kids. Fix the infrastructure to create more jobs. Problem will be solved in a few years.
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Agreed...but no one seems to want to do any of that.
 
K said:
Ok then what's the answer? What can be done? Should we all just sit by and watch innocent people get killed in the midst of it all?
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It's simple as knowing that it takes specific tools to fix certain issues. If I don't know what tools are needed, I don't do anything until I find out even if that means doing nothing at all. It's not that hard to accept not having the answer. Why panic and jump to conclusions?

In order for me to consider putting some serious thought into it, I would first have to know that the listeners really even want to hear an answer. It's just too hard to take anyone seriously when they are so much as entertaining the idea of protesting.
 
Beasty said:
It's simple as knowing that it takes specific tools to fix certain issues. If I don't know what tools are needed, I don't do anything until I find out even if that means doing nothing at all. It's not that hard to accept not having the answer. Why panic and jump to conclusions?

In order for me to consider putting some serious thought into it, I would first have to know that the listeners really even want to hear an answer. It's just too hard to take anyone seriously when they are so much as entertaining the idea of protesting.
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Do you think there is any value to bringing attention to the issue?

I'm not talking about doing so through protesting. I'm talking about bringing attention to it at all??
 
K said:
Do you think there is any value to bringing attention to the issue?

I'm not talking about doing so through protesting. I'm talking about bringing attention to it at all??
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You don't think law enforcement knows about Chicago? :smt005

I'm trying here K, but really?
 
K said:
Do you really think law enforcement is who decides if it's addressed or not?
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3 ways to stop a criminal

1) Make him legit
2) Put him in jail
3) You can guess this one

Do you know a 4th one?

And who do you suggest can do any of the above three tasks?
 
Beasty said:
3 ways to stop a criminal

1) Make him legit
2) Put him in jail
3) You can guess this one

Do you know a 4th one?

And who do you suggest can do any of the above three tasks?
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There is such a thing as prevention of criminal activity.
 
archangel said:
There is such a thing as prevention of criminal activity.
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To a certain extent.

Unless you believe in "minority report" the possibility of getting caught is the biggest deterrent. That doesn't actually prevent the crime from happening.
 
Beasty said:
3 ways to stop a criminal

1) Make him legit
2) Put him in jail
3) You can guess this one

Do you know a 4th one?

And who do you suggest can do any of the above three tasks?
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Law enforcement (in the purest sense) has one job and that is to follow policies and procedures in order to enforce the laws that are on the books.

They don't control whether or not anyone is legit.
They don't control if they are jailed.
They can (and often do) control #3.

I'm not defending them in any way whatsoever. I'm simply saying that they aren't the ones in control of identifying the problem or solutions.
 
K said:
Law enforcement (in the purest sense) has one job and that is to follow policies and procedures in order to enforce the laws that are on the books.

They don't control whether or not anyone is legit.
They don't control if they are jailed.
They can (and often do) control #3.

I'm not defending them in any way whatsoever. I'm simply saying that they aren't the ones in control of identifying the problem or solutions.
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You tell me whose attention it should be brought too. :smt081
 
Beasty said:
To a certain extent.

Unless you believe in "minority report" the possibility of getting caught is the biggest deterrent. That doesn't actually prevent the crime from happening.
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Then there is no deterrent at all. If you understand how few police there are and statistics then you will understand how low of a chance you have of getting caught for say speeding or consuming drugs in your house.

I was more or less talking about afterschool programs for kids to not get into trouble and the other stuff that take kids minds off of trouble. pokemon go and what not...
 
archangel said:
Then there is no deterrent at all. If you understand how few police there are and statistics then you will understand how low of a chance you have of getting caught for say speeding or consuming drugs in your house.

I was more or less talking about afterschool programs for kids to not get into trouble and the other stuff that take kids minds off of trouble. pokemon go and what not...
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Who cares about those "crimes" anyway? Come on now. LOL
 
archangel said:
I took in #1 as make whatever he is doing legal like marijuana being legal in states and not so much having afterschool programs for the kiddos to stay out of trouble.
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Yah - I was taking it as bigger than that. Probably my own slant on things there - I focus on being proactive rather than reactive.
 
orejon4 said:
Social problems can't be solved by incarceration. What will they do, just continue until 20% of the population is behind bars?
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Agreed. And they more than likely will they think thats the solution. They need to invest in mental health. But that'll never happen.
 
K said:
Well that's what I've been asking you.... Who, and what should be done
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The onus is on the people that think Chicago is the way it is because black people got together one day and decided to allow crime there. If they can present to us a stupid idea, they can come up with a better one, because it doesn't get any dumber than protesting gang members, the floor of stupidity has been found.
 
Beasty said:
The onus is on the people that think Chicago is the way it is because black people got together one day and decided to allow crime there. If they can present to us a stupid idea, they can come up with a better one, because it doesn't get any dumber than protesting gang members, the floor of stupidity has been found.
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Amen
 
Gangs In Chicago Reportedly Agree To Use Snipers And Automatic Weapons Against The Police
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Is the city of Chicago about to see a wave of unprecedented chaos and violence? The facts that I am about to share with you may seem fantastical at first glance, but they come from the Chicago police and they are being reported by the mainstream media. According to authorities, at a recent gathering of major gangs in the city it was agreed that they would use automatic weapons against the police, and at least one of the gangs already has “a sniper in place” but officials do not know where that sniper is located.

This meeting of major gangs in Chicago was described as a “summit” by ABC Chicago, and an alert about the security threat that this poses was sent out to every police officer in the city on Friday…

An article published by the Chicago Sun-Times went into even greater detail about this story. Apparently the three gangs involved in the summit were the Vice Lords, the Black Disciples and the Four Corner Hustlers, and reportedly it is the Four Corner Hustlers that will be providing automatic weapons to members of the other two gangs…

It appears that what precipitated this “summit” of major gangs was the shooting death of 18-year-old Paul O’Neal. That incident made headlines all over the nation and resulted in very large protests in downtown Chicago…

If you don’t live in the Chicago area, you may not be aware of the massive gang problem in the city.

Four years ago, the Chicago Crime Commission estimated that there were 150,000 gang members currently living in the city. That was the highest number in the entire nation, and since then that number has certainly only gone up.

Meanwhile, there are just 13,318 law enforcement officers of all descriptions in the city of Chicago.

So essentially the police are outnumbered by a more than 10 to 1 margin, and now the gangs are planning to use automatic weapons?

These are ominous times for the Windy City.

Meanwhile, the threat of violence from Islamic terrorists continues to grow. We all saw what happened not too long ago at a small church in France, and there are a lot of people that are concerned that we could soon see similar scenarios play out all over this country.
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http://endoftheamericandream.com/ar...pers-and-automatic-weapons-against-the-police
 
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