Chicago: Experiencing Shootings every week, Going Unnoticed

[The Dark King]

Attractive? Ok I'll give you that but are you that weak where you have to go there?

If there's no other opportunity yes of course.

 

[Paniro187]

If there's no other opportunity yes of course.

Now there are opportunities but to them trying is beneath them. They would rather that "easy" route of selling drugs and taking penitentiary chances daily. I mean who wants to get up early every morning go to work get randomly drug tests. Much easier lay around chill out wake up when you want etc etc

 

[The Dark King]

Now there are opportunities but to them trying is beneath them. They would rather that "easy" route of selling drugs and taking penitentiary chances daily. I mean who wants to get up early every morning go to work get randomly drug tests. Much easier lay around chill out wake up when you want etc etc

That's what you think is going on fam? Seriously?

 

[Paniro187]

That's what you think is going on fam? Seriously?

So you feel you're right and I'm wrong?

 

[The Dark King]

So you feel you're right and I'm wrong?

I feel like I'm informed and you're not.
Look I don't disagree that we need to stop the violence and selling drugs but I'm just trying to see real options not meaningless platitudes.
You don't find it interesting when these areas had thriving industries this shit never went on.

 

[Paniro187]

I feel like I'm informed and you're not.
Look I don't disagree that we need to stop the violence and selling drugs but I'm just trying to see real options not meaningless platitudes.
You don't find it interesting when these areas had thriving industries this shit never went on.

You're informed and I'm not because I don't agree with you. Ok cool. How do you know what I am?

Hell if we can't even agree that it's their fault and that they had a choice in the first place then there's not much to say here. Agree to disagree

 

[The Dark King]

You're informed and I'm not because I don't agree with you. Ok cool. How do you know what I am?

Hell if we can't even agree that it's their fault and that they had a choice in the first place then there's not much to say here. Agree to disagree

Because you use conjecture rarely facts but ok let me approach this differently.
What do you think of child soldiers?

 

[Paniro187]

Because you use conjecture rarely facts but ok let me approach this differently.
What do you think of child soldiers?

We both see the same facts but see two different things. So like I say agree to disagree. You know we not going to see eye to eye on this but hey it was worth a shot lol


Cheers about to get a bud light and sit my black ass down and watch some more mr robot after a hard days work.

 

[The Dark King]

We both see the same facts but see two different things. So like I say agree to disagree. You know we not going to see eye to eye on this but hey it was worth a shot lol


Cheers about to get a bud light and sit my black ass down and watch some more mr robot after a hard days work.

My favorite show lol
Everything outside of politics we seem to always agree on lol

 

[Bliss]

No... That's not what I said... Below is what I said which is about holding them accountable for wrongdoing/police brutality. As of now... More often than not they're given the benefit of the doubt solely on the strength that they're police officers and rarely held accountable. This is the main reason BLM exists today, but of course some want to make them out to be a hate group and/or throw up smoke screens about black on black crime to divert attention from the police' role in this problem.

Well that's pretty much the gist.
And l re-iterate that won't happen unless there's Federal reform, because they are given permission to shoot and taught to shoot. It's messed up, but the Supreme Court gives them the leeway. (how many have the Justice Department indicted in the last 8 years?)

A veteran (white) cop told me shaking his head that "these new cops are ruining it for everyone because they are scared, and trigger-happy and clueless to diffusing a situation.".
I don't think we are on different pages here.

 

[meowkittenmeow]

We both see the same facts but see two different things. So like I say agree to disagree. You know we not going to see eye to eye on this but hey it was worth a shot lol


Cheers about to get a bud light and sit my black ass down and watch some more mr robot after a hard days work.

In for Mr. Robot Reference

 

[Paniro187]

My favorite show lol
Everything outside of politics we seem to always agree on lol

Dude Elliot is the shit. I won't lie I went to Walmart and got a hoodie just like his this morning lol


Please watch the leftovers though and tell me what you think. I'm headed to the tv now bro be safe.

 

[Bookworm616]

We've had this conversation before if there is one job for every four people what do the other three do?
I always wonder if we spent as much time trying to fix that problem instead of policing people where would be
Instead of a war on poverty
We got a war on drugs so the police can bother me.

So what kind of jobs would turn the high crime areas around?

Stores are robbed on the regular.

The Bulls win a championship and stores are looted in "celebration".

Many people spend hours every day on trains and buses getting to jobs. So why don't they move closer to their jobs? Because housing is ridiculously priced in those areas.

It's a vicious cycle.

 

[The Dark King]

So what kind of jobs would turn the high crime areas around?

Stores are robbed on the regular.

The Bulls win a championship and stores are looted in "celebration".

Many people spend hours every day on trains and buses getting to jobs. So why don't they move closer to their jobs? Because housing is ridiculously priced in those areas.

It's a vicious cycle.

Teach them some tech and medical jobs get them some job training. Teach them some dirty jobs, there are over 3 million that go unfilled each year.
And to be fair nearly all towns black or white do the same bs when their team wins a championship and trust me the Bulls ain't winning for awhile so there's no danger there lol

 

[Bookworm616]

Teach them some tech and medical jobs get them some job training. Teach them some dirty jobs, there are over 3 million that go unfilled each year.
And to be fair nearly all towns black or white do the same bs when their team wins a championship and trust me the Bulls ain't winning for awhile so there's no danger there lol

LOL. Oh yeah, they're a long way from the 90s team.

About the only teams in Chicago giving us any winning moments are the Blackhawks and Cubs.

I can't wait for the Cubs to finally win the World Series, but I can't even imagine how crazy Chicago will be when that happens.

As for the rest, you can't teach them tech and medical if the HS graduating rates hover at like 50% (don't quote me on this, I just made up a number).

These kids need to STAY IN SCHOOL to get the better jobs.

 

[The Dark King]

LOL. Oh yeah, they're a long way from the 90s team.

About the only teams in Chicago giving us any winning moments are the Blackhawks and Cubs.

I can't wait for the Cubs to finally win the World Series, but I can't even imagine how crazy Chicago will be when that happens.

As for the rest, you can't teach them tech and medical if the HS graduating rates hover at like 50% (don't quote me on this, I just made up a number).

These kids need to STAY IN SCHOOL to get the better jobs.

Not their fault if they are shutting down schools but truthfully the old way of schooling needs to go away anyway. It should be done bootcamp style and only have them in a building learning basic skills two days a week and the other three learning a damn skill. I seriously do not get why they won't at least try different things especially if the old ways aren't yielding any results for these kids. It shouldn't be on teenagers to just stay in school, give them an actual path instead of lies and bullshit promises. If I were 16 again I'd get a GED and go to a trade school fuck wasting my precious time learning about books and historical figures that have no bearing on my life now. I need a roof and food period the end.

 

[andreboba]

Not their fault if they are shutting down schools but truthfully the old way of schooling needs to go away anyway. It should be done bootcamp style and only have them in a building learning basic skills two days a week and the other three learning a damn skill. I seriously do not get why they won't at least try different things especially if the old ways aren't yielding any results for these kids. It shouldn't be on teenagers to just stay in school, give them an actual path instead of lies and bullshit promises. If I were 16 again I'd get a GED and go to a trade school fuck wasting my precious time learning about books and historical figures that have no bearing on my life now. I need a roof and food period the end.

I agree learning a marketable skill is more important than a classical education for many at risk kids, but only teaching them a trade or tech is preparing them to be sheep when they get older.

It's easy to manipulate a population who's simply ignorant of the reality of the world we live in.

The problem is we are at that level of crisis in the inner cities and many poor Black communities, where training them for work should be job #1

 

[Bookworm616]

Not their fault if they are shutting down schools but truthfully the old way of schooling needs to go away anyway. It should be done bootcamp style and only have them in a building learning basic skills two days a week and the other three learning a damn skill. I seriously do not get why they won't at least try different things especially if the old ways aren't yielding any results for these kids. It shouldn't be on teenagers to just stay in school, give them an actual path instead of lies and bullshit promises. If I were 16 again I'd get a GED and go to a trade school fuck wasting my precious time learning about books and historical figures that have no bearing on my life now. I need a roof and food period the end.

I agree learning a marketable skill is more important than a classical education for many at risk kids, but only teaching them a trade or tech is preparing them to be sheep when they get older.

It's easy to manipulate a population who's simply ignorant of the reality of the world we live in.

The problem is we are at that level of crisis in the inner cities and many poor Black communities, where training them for work should be job #1

Great ideas and I agree with them, but again, they have huge problems with attendance in these schools.

It doesn't matter what kind of training they try to impart on these students if they're not showing up, and THAT starts in the home.

A few things I found:

http://www.attendanceworks.org/research/evidence-based-solutions/

Graduation rates: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...tion-rate-change-met-1002-20151001-story.html

From 2009: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/22/education/22dropout.html

https://consortium.uchicago.edu/pub...ools-students-focus-four-year-college-degrees

 

[The Dark King]

Great ideas and I agree with them, but again, they have huge problems with attendance in these schools.

It doesn't matter what kind of training they try to impart on these students if they're not showing up, and THAT starts in the home.

A few things I found:

http://www.attendanceworks.org/research/evidence-based-solutions/

Graduation rates: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...tion-rate-change-met-1002-20151001-story.html

From 2009: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/22/education/22dropout.html

https://consortium.uchicago.edu/pub...ools-students-focus-four-year-college-degrees

That's based on the current system that no one thinks works.

 

[K]

When people are dealing with survival school isn't that important. They need to have places to live, food to eat, and be safe first.