NFL QB National Anthem Protest

goodlove8 said:
These people who claim they love veterans are mostly full of shit. They don't volunteer to get vets back forth to the hospital or volunteer at the VA hospital.

They don't help build homes so it can be easily accessible. They don't raise money for reconstructive surgery.

The best they do is take off from work , take advantage of the memorial 4 of July and veterans day sales.

They really get downgwhen they barbecue.

Let's really keep it 100. Y'all wasn't mad when the sports franchises charge the military to do the military ceremonies in the stadium. You know...let's honor our vets.....they charge the military for that . So sit down be quiet
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Bliss said:
Oh look...more verbal excrement from ol snaggle-toof Otis. :smt088
My team didn't charge one red cent.
I thought what some owners did was awful and said so.
Ironically, the Military had no issue wirh it because they viewed it as a recruiting tool.
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goodlove8 said:
Oh so you want to insult

Read it and then eat you balded heifer

www.sbnation.com /2015/11/4/9670302/ nfl-paid-patriotism-troops-mcain- flake-report-million

The military paid pro sports teams $10.4 million for patriotic displays, troop tributes

The McCain/Flake report finds $53 million in Department of Defense spending for patriiotic
displays at sporting events

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There read it then go sit down
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Bliss said:
*Groan* Now WTF are you on about?

See, this is the NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT of others who have the unfortunate task of dealing with your hysterical ass on a topic...Read what??? I just fucking told you that l KNOW.
l wrote that to you, did you not see?

It's like your don't listen. You don't read. Wtf do you think you're "showing" me, numbnuts?

Only 14 NFL teams took money - there are 32 teams.
I reiterate:
Eagles NOT among NFL teams using taxpayer money to honor troops

Now sit your unstable ass down.
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goodlove8 said:
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Show me where I said the eagles? I said sports teams...I didn't say how many. Also 14 out of 32 still took money . So now you are saying they should all get a pass cause not all teams took money.
:smt017

You get the side eye
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goodlove8 said:
@bliss

I'm still waiting on your response.
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meowkittenmeow said:
Goodlove be like...
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lol, she doesn't generally reply back to being called out.
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Really LAW/Meow? At what point does "calling out" become petulant harrassment behavior?

I ALREADY responded to him as you can see. But he refused to read them and somehow accused me of giving the NFL a pass and other idiot made up things, ignoring where l clearly said l was against it. Instead, he drones on, chasing me in threads. I'm not the only one he does this to.
This is the final repeat reply to him on this because I'm not wasting anymore time on it.
 
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Beasty said:
I bet a lot of people that feel that this guy disrespected the country by not standing for the flag are the same people that wave confederate flags. :smt042
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This! I personally would stand, but I get where Kaepernick is coming from. His salary/endorsements are irrevelant because at the end of the day... Sadly, he's seen as just another n____r. I think a lot of people are quick to ignore that it's hard living in this skin day to day, and sadly, they think we should just "get over it".

andreboba said:
I laughed too but damn he went in so hard on the guy.

Optimus Prime?? Wow.lol
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Agreed!!! I felt bad for laughing too, but that response was funny as heck
 
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andreboba said:
Trump was an idiot for criticizing a Gold Star mother for NOT speaking at the DNC convention. Attack her husband who ripped into Trump.
Why did he go after the mother???

Sometimes in life you just have to eat shit and realize you can't insult EVERYONE who pisses you off.

Trump deserved to be attacked because yes we have Muslims in the military who gave their lives for this country.

Trump saying he would require a religious test for immigrants to enter this country is idiotic and unconstitutional.

And I said CK wasn't disrespecting the military, or that it meant he hated the American flag.

People get so caught in the rituals and traditions of faux patriotism and forget that being a 'patriot' means allowing for others to have opinions different from your own.


TDK theorized those AMericans who have this knee jerk patriotism without caring our trying to understand what Kaepernick's protest was about are probably many of the same people who fly the Confederate flag.

Since White Southerners to tend to be the ones who volunteer the most for military service, I don't think it's a stretch to say they're probably the same people who think the Confederate flag represents their 'culture' and 'tradition'.

CK has a problem with institutions in this country that perpetuate bigotry, racism and don't hold law enforcement officials accountable for their actions.

Because he LOVES this country, in his own way, and thinks we can do better.

If you only see a Black guy not showing 'proper respect' for the American flag, you're missing the point.
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It's not White Southerners, it's a misnomer.

Why don't you respect Colin's actual words. He said he has no pride for it.
If you claim this is about free speech rights then stop diluting his comment to suggest that he has pride. Take him at his word.

No one is missing his point. He made it loud and clear. But it seems everyone is missing the reaction point that the flag gave him the very Right to speak out, so why attack it?

Of course he can speak out on any issue but it's the pure definition of oxymoronic thinking to say what he said about the flag and there are consequences to his free speech comment. You of all people know this.
 
Bliss said:
Really LAW/Meow? At what point does "calling out" become petulant harrassment behavior?

I ALREADY responded to him as you can see. But he refused to read them and somehow accused me of giving the NFL a pass and other idiot made up things, ignoring where l clearly said l was against it. Instead, he drones on, chasing me in threads. I'm not the only one he does this to.
This is the final repeat reply to him on this because I'm not wasting anymore time on it.
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I like how you left out that part where I caught you in a lie... but, ok. And yes, goodlove does drone on and on... almost as often as you do in this thread. I want to thank you. You made this thread all kinds of entertaining. :freehug:
 
Bliss said:
It's not White Southerners, it's a misnomer.

Why don't you respect Colin's actual words. He said he has no pride for it.
If you claim this is about free speech rights then stop diluting his comment to suggest that he has pride. Take him at his word.

No one is missing his point. He made it loud and clear. But it seems everyone is missing the reaction point that the flag gave him the very Right to speak out, so why attack it?

Of course he can speak out on any issue but it's the pure definition of oxymoronic thinking to say what he said about the flag and there are consequences to his free speech comment. You of all people know this.
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Because CK refuses to stand and "show pride for a flag for a country that oppresses Black people," means he has NO pride in the flag??

That's a stretch.

You're talking like not standing for the National Anthem is the equivalent of burning it.

The flag is just a symbol. We the people are the ones who give it meaning, and if we aren't living up to the ideals represented by the American flag, we are dishonoring it.

This is REAL patriotism, but most Americans gloss over the actual hard work involved in being a 'good' American.

Colin is right in believing that by our very actions, collectively, what the flag is supposed to stand for has been perverted.

I saw his protest as more of an effort to force all of us to remember what that flag stands for and to live up to its ideals.

I totally understand after watching this epidemic of police shooting that CK has a serious problem with what this country is really about.
 
andreboba said:
Because CK refuses to stand and "show pride for a flag for a country that oppresses Black people," means he has NO pride in the flag??

That's a stretch.

You're talking like not standing for the National Anthem is the equivalent of burning it.

The flag is just a symbol. We the people are the ones who give it meaning, and if we aren't living up to the ideals represented by the American flag, we are dishonoring it.

This is REAL patriotism, but most Americans gloss over the actual hard work involved in being a 'good' American.

Colin is right in believing that by our very actions, collectively, what the flag is supposed to stand for has been perverted.

I saw his protest as more of an effort to force all of us to remember what that flag stands for and to live up to its ideals.

I totally understand after watching this epidemic of police shooting that CK has a serious problem with what this country is really about.
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How is it a stretch? He said it. Take him at his word.

So not living up to or having ideal lives is dishonoring the flag? Where is his accountability in contributing to the dysfunction. What has he done for oppressed people except critize.

I swear, any steps forward of this country are ignored and spat on. Very sad.
Like West said..how about going to visit the soldiers stuck in oppressive countries and let them lose themselves a little in some Americana by throwing the ball with them and shake their hands...BLMM is constantly at the forefront and no one was ignoring them..
He's a jerk for attacking the flag.
 
Bliss said:
How is it a stretch? He said it. Take him at his word.

So not living up to or having ideal lives is dishonoring the flag? Where is his accountability in contributing to the dysfunction. What has he done for oppressed people except critize.

I swear, any steps forward of this country are ignored and spat on. Very sad.
Like West said..how about going to visit the soldiers stuck in oppressive countries and let them lose themselves a little in some Americana by throwing the ball with them and shake their hands...BLMM is constantly at the forefront and no one was ignoring them..
He's a jerk for attacking the flag.
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Protesting the flag does not mean you're anti-military or against soldiers.
We're going in circles.
CK is not attacking the flag.

As a symbol of what this country stand for, freedom, justice and liberty, Colin IMO believes the flag at present no longer represents those ideals because of the injustices he sees happening against minorities by law enforcement nationwide.
 
Bliss said:
It's not White Southerners, it's a misnomer.

Why don't you respect Colin's actual words. He said he has no pride for it.
If you claim this is about free speech rights then stop diluting his comment to suggest that he has pride. Take him at his word.

No one is missing his point. He made it loud and clear. But it seems everyone is missing the reaction point that the flag gave him the very Right to speak out, so why attack it?

Of course he can speak out on any issue but it's the pure definition of oxymoronic thinking to say what he said about the flag and there are consequences to his free speech comment. You of all people know this.
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Why did you replace Beastys name with mine?
Funny how "attacking " the flag always means more to your ilk than actually fighting for the people.
People who criticize so damn hard rarely do anything themselves.
 
andreboba said:
Protesting the flag does not mean you're anti-military or against soldiers.
We're going in circles.
CK is not attacking the flag.

As a symbol of what this country stand for, freedom, justice and liberty, Colin IMO believes the flag at present no longer represents those ideals because of the injustices he sees happening against minorities by law enforcement nationwide.
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Agreed! I definitely saw it as yet another smokescreen to intentionally distract from the issue at hand.
 
andreboba said:
Protesting the flag does not mean you're anti-military or against soldiers.
We're going in circles.
CK is not attacking the flag.

As a symbol of what this country stand for, freedom, justice and liberty, Colin IMO believes the flag at present no longer represents those ideals because of the injustices he sees happening against minorities by law enforcement nationwide.
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Omg AB, he DID attack the flag. He flagrantly sat down to protest it because Black people are oppressed. And he said he will continue to sit in defiance against it until all blacks are not oppressed.
So a press conference would not be a better venue to get his POV out? Did he CHANGE anything? Did he bring the country closer? Did he by insulting the flag, stop oppression?
Like l said he's lazy as hell...he has the money and time to go on the frontlines and help oppressed black people and he hasn't.
 
Bliss said:
Since some of you Vets and non-vets alike find this man's disability hilarious, don't stop now with the laughs and blood that your brethren are seeking...

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"It's one thing to be a Marine or a service member. It's a big deal. You are really doing a lot for your country," he told ABC News at the time, as we accompanied him on patrol. "But as an EOD [explosive ordinance disposal] tech, I just saw an opportunity to do a little bit more."

Marine sergeant Joey Jones’ life would be forever changed on August 6, 2010 while serving on a combat tour in Iraq. The staff sergeant accidentally stepped on an IED that horrifically blew both of his legs off above both knees. In addition to losing his legs, the blast also severely damaged both his wrists and right forearm. After going through two years of grueling rehabilitation, the Marine hero now devotes his time serving other veterans through his national nonprofit Boot Campaign organization, where he does many public speaking events spreading his message of hope.

Despite being a double amputee, Jones always stands whenever the National Anthem is played because he truly understands the meaning of our nation’s flag, having made an incredible personal sacrifice to preserve it.
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The foot in mouth was pretty funny. Not as funny as Optimus Prime though. Nice try on the guilt trip though.
 
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