NFL QB National Anthem Protest

The Dark King said:
That literally and uterally on people like yourself who choose to make a situation like this divisive.
You scream respect but let's be real this more about wanting black people to know their place. When other Americans ie Ryan Loche embarrass the shit shut out of this country NO ONE questions his patriotism and tells him to leave. He doesn't stand for a racist ads pledge (listen to the whole thing please) and suddenly he's unAmerican.
It's like being black comes with the disclaimer that if you dare show anything but reverence and worship you are some how ungrateful. Every damn thing we've gotten we've earned every damn thing. No one gives us shit so if that black man doesn't want to stand then it's his God damn right and not because of flag but because of the centuries of blood sweat and tears his ancestors put into this country to make it great to make it something worth defending.
It's getting increasingly annoying having to constantly debate and justify our fucking humanity. The double standards are so blatant and clear. Why bother engaging.
It's never to help it's to dictate. "Instead of worrying about police brutality worry about Chicago "
Funny how every single "concerned" citizen who brings that up or all lives matter never do a damn thing to help people in Chicago or any lives for that matter.
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Paniro187 said:
Just thought about something. He would REALLY. Be giving up something if the nfl actually had a policy against not standing. He didn't sacrifice anything by sitting. Ali was stripped of his title and barred from boxing NO COMPARISON!
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You don't think CK sacrificed anything??

What team is going sign Kaepernick if he's cut by the 49ers, which a real possibility???

As an NFL player, if you get on the wrong side of the owners, your career is over.

Look at Ray Rice. He's effectively been blackballed by the NFL even though he's complied with all his legal obligations.


And WTF is taking a public stand all about what you potentially can lose in the process???

That a stupid equation to use to determine the value of someone's stance against injustice.
 
andreboba said:
You don't think CK sacrificed anything??

What team is going sign Kaepernick if he's cut by the 49ers, which a real possibility???

As an NFL player, if you get on the wrong side of the owners, your career is over.

Look at Ray Rice. He's effectively been blackballed by the NFL even though he's complied with all his legal obligations.


And WTF is taking a public stand all about what you potentially can lose in the process???

That a stupid equation to use to determine the value of someone's stance against injustice.
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Don't feed the troll...
 
flaminghetero said:
Don't feed the troll...
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Bliss said:
Fixed.

And l never argued that, @underlined. You're confusing me with someone else. I am calling Colin out on his disrespect for the very flag that affords him the Right to free speech. He's a moron for missing that whole point.
Now l have argued about the scurrilous disrespectful mocking of a disabled Vet by his fellow veterans and active Military on here. That's fucking disgraceful.

Again for the gazzilionth time, l have no issue with his BLM stance. I SAID, he had sooo many avenues in which to bring attention to it...leave the flag and the people who love it and fought for it and who fight for his Constitutional Right to speak, out of it.
And by people l mean ANYONE.

You will never convince me to hate this flag or Country...so damn grateful for it. This whole planet would be disastrous without it and while you think it's the worst and you live a daily life of horrible oppression and most everyone is racist and out to get you, as an oppressed woman myself who has travelled to every continent on the planet except Antarctica, l still and do RESPECT the flag and Constitution. That, l will never blur.
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Talk about being oppressed and traveling the world in the same sentence brehs. (for anyone unaware, bliss was traveling the world quite a bit before she married that simp to get into America, also refused to join the Armed services of that this flag and country she loooooooooooooves so much)


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John lewis has support for kapernick as well. I am actually quite proud of this country. SO much support for kapernick's cause. It brings hope that there will be change. Had he did this back in the day, it would have been far worse.

Though, I suspect kapernick's sitting will be forgotten when the next person is shot again for the umpteenth time or the season actually starts. I mean when the NFL gets higher ratings than the elections..... what does that say?
 
4north1side2 said:
Talk about being oppressed and traveling the world in the same sentence brehs. (for anyone unaware, bliss was traveling the world quite a bit before she married that simp to get into America, also refused to join the Armed services of that this flag and country she loooooooooooooves so much)


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4noth1side be like...

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GFunk said:
OHHHHHH This finna be good!

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Oh stop your giddy already. That toilet-licker breh of yours has been spewing feces from his throat since he joined the forum..
Please tell me you knew that full Citizenry was and has ALWAYS been a requirement to enlist.
I mean you do know that, right? Smh.
 
Bliss said:
Oh stop your giddy already. That toilet-licker breh of yours has been spewing feces from his throat since he joined the forum..
Please tell me you knew that full Citizenry was and has ALWAYS been a requirement to enlist.
I mean you do know that, right? Smh.
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You need a green card (permanent resident card). You get one when you get married. Full citizenship isn't required to join the military. The military is actually known for naturalizing a lot of green card holders this way.

I'd also like to add, that full citizenship (which isn't the requirement for enlistment, a green card is) is attained after 3 years of being married in the U.S.
 
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Bliss said:
Oh stop your giddy already. That toilet-licker breh of yours has been spewing feces from his throat since he joined the forum..
Please tell me you knew that full Citizenry was and has ALWAYS been a requirement to enlist.
I mean you do know that, right? Smh.
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Sure about that?
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meowkittenmeow said:
You need a green card (permanent resident card). You get one when you get married. Full citizenship isn't required to join the military. The military is actually known for naturalizing a lot of green card holders this way.

I'd also like to add, that full citizenship (which isn't the requirement for enlistment, a green card is) is attained after 3 years of being married in the U.S.
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Saved me the trouble.
 
K said:
Nah.....he's a luv. He's not tough to figure out. he lays it all out. Just have to be able to tune in.
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Well I'm genuinely glad you both have made a connection. I don't see the laying it all out part that you do, but l do agree he is a luv. :smt023
 
GFunk said:
Sure about that?
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meowkittenmeow said:
You need a green card (permanent resident card). You get one when you get married. Full citizenship isn't required to join the military. The military is actually known for naturalizing a lot of green card holders this way.

I'd also like to add, that full citizenship (which isn't the requirement for enlistment, a green card is) is attained after 3 years of being married in the U.S.
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You are not simply granted a green card because you get married. You are granted the privelidge to apply.
Citizenship was granted five years after and close to $1000 in fees.
Two decades ago, l was specifically informed by INS l could not vote or become an Officer in the Military. That Federal Law prohibited granting security clearances to non-citizens.
If since that time and post Gulf War, 9/11 and the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars they changed it (shockingly now illegal aliens can join thanks to an Executive Order by Obama), that still wasn't during my time.
I was five years into my marriage and career by then. You both joined fresh out of high school looking for jobs, l was living in another country at that same age. You couldn't just walk into this country and join like you can today because they need bodies. It was a different time.
If l was unemployed and fresh out of school, l would have LOVED to have joined.
If l had no career today and there was no age restriction, l'd definitely join.
 
Bliss said:
You are not simply granted a green card because you get married. You are granted the privelidge to apply.
Citizenship was granted five years after and close to $1000 in fees.
Two decades ago, l was specifically informed by INS l could not vote or become an Officer in the Military. That Federal Law prohibited granting security clearances to non-citizens.
If since that time and post Gulf War, 9/11 and the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars they changed it (shockingly now illegal aliens can join thanks to an Executive Order by Obama), that still wasn't during my time.
I was five years into my marriage and career by then. You both joined fresh out of high school looking for jobs, l was living in another country at that same age. You couldn't just walk into this country and join like you can today because they need bodies. It was a different time.
If l was unemployed and fresh out of school, l would have LOVED to have joined.
If l had no career today and there was no age restriction, l'd definitely join.
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My comment was in reference to the "was and always been". The extreme "need for bodies" and ease of naturalization started October 1st, 2001. Before that, you had to have a green card, and you couldn't join as an officer, but you could join enlisted and become an officer once naturalized (I believe it was after serving 3 years enlisted, might have been 4). So, you could have joined, just not as an officer. I take it that you had your heart set on being an officer?

For the record, I didn't join "fresh out of high school and looking for jobs". I graduated early and went to school. I was in school for 2 semesters and a summer semester before I joined.
 
meowkittenmeow said:
My comment was in reference to the "was and always been". The extreme "need for bodies" and ease of naturalization started October 1st, 2001. Before that, you had to have a green card, and you couldn't join as an officer, but you could join enlisted and become an officer once naturalized (I believe it was after serving 3 years enlisted, might have been 4). So, you could have joined, just not as an officer. I take it that you had your heart set on being an officer?

For the record, I didn't join "fresh out of high school and looking for jobs". I graduated early and went to school. I was in school for 2 semesters and a summer semester before I joined.
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I've actually thought about joining the reserves to kill my loans. Always wanted to serve but wasn't mature to handle it when I was younger
 
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