Man Hits Woman - Was he Right ? Or Wrong ?

meowkittenmeow said:
The situations are different. It is about both size and gender in both situations. In the first video, if that was Hope Solo beating up a smaller black man they would have shown any possible criminal records and the worst pictures possible to make him look like the aggressor. So, if is size and gender and a touch of race involved (because any time a black man does so much as breath race and gender is somehow going to be involved). In the case of this video, her criminal record isn't being shown throughout the media as a black man's record would. If he hit a man that was smaller, the situation would have played differently. So, I am going to have to agree with Since1980 and pretty much every other black man who mentioned that this involved gender as well as size and race.

In regards to the next video, although she is much bigger, and obviously an abuser, it wasn't in a public place. This is domestic violence from an angry abusive entitled black woman. In this case, all he did was text someone. She assumed he texted a woman when he was probably texting anyone for help. This is also about gender as he knows he can't fight back or he could go to prison even though he is the victim. Why? Because he is a man and a black man and the system is against him. So, this case, although, 2 completely different situations are still about race, size, and gender.
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In the eyes of society, I completely agree with you. I was simply stating that my personal feelings about these videos are not gender based. That's all.
 
medullaslashin said:
Well, I wasn't speaking of you in particular, but... I find it hard to believe that anyone could watch that vid and come to the conclusion that he wailed on her like that because he wanted to "keep himself safe." ...so I presume when you say he was "defending himself" and "keeping himself safe" you're just sticking to your guns & grasping at straws to "win the argument" instead... :^/

Anyway -- these guys act like women assaulting men is some giant problem that can't be avoided, and women are getting away with it left and right. What world are you living in? Yes, there's a double-standard, but no, it's not a giant problem (or much of a problem at all). There are bigger fights to fight.

...These guys also act like they would advise their sons to do what Mixon did. Quick poll to all the guys defending him like that -- would you advise your son to handle it like mixon? If you say "yes" I know you're being disingenuous and just "sticking to your guns" to win the pork chop...

haha. Wonder what mixon (& the guys supporting what he did) would've done in the case below?

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The sad part is, I bet some would. I'm a ww raising biracial kids (2 of them boys) and even Im clear enough on the racial injustice in this country to raise my boys smarter than that. Heaven help these boys being raised otherwise.
 
medullaslashin said:
Well, I wasn't speaking of you in particular, but... I find it hard to believe that anyone could watch that vid and come to the conclusion that he wailed on her like that because he wanted to "keep himself safe." ...so I presume when you say he was "defending himself" and "keeping himself safe" you're just sticking to your guns & grasping at straws to "win the argument" instead... :^/

Anyway -- these guys act like women assaulting men is some giant problem that can't be avoided, and women are getting away with it left and right. What world are you living in? Yes, there's a double-standard, but no, it's not a giant problem (or much of a problem at all). There are bigger fights to fight.

...These guys also act like they would advise their sons to do what Mixon did. Quick poll to all the guys defending him like that -- would you advise your son to handle it like mixon? If you say "yes" I know you're being disingenuous and just "sticking to your guns" to win the pork chop...

haha. Wonder what mixon (& the guys supporting what he did) would've done in the case below?

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I and my son's mother raise our sons if someone hits you, hit them back no matter the gender. My mother tells them this and so does my girlfriend.

Abusive women is a huge problem and its people like you who don't see it as a problem which condones these women behavior.
 
RaiderLL said:
Perfect example of my point. I've said over and over that it never Ok to beat on someone smaller. This has never been a gender issue, no matter how much GL wanted to paint that picture. People should always defend themselves to the extent necessary for their safety. The man in the original video didn't do that. His ego got hurt and he went too far. If you can't walk away (like the video shown here), defend yourself, but regardless of gender I think that defense is only justifiable to the extent that was necessary to regain control of your own safety.
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Sorry raider but you was absolute . I said it before and I'll say it again.

Keep your hands to yourself

If a woman puts her hands on a dude then she opens herself to an ass whipping.

Should I explain to you the thought process of a fight...well at least for me?
 
4north1side2 said:
I and my son's mother raise our sons if someone hits you, hit them back no matter the gender. My mother tells them this and so does my girlfriend.

Abusive women is a huge problem and its people like you who don't see it as a problem which condones these women behavior.
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Exactly. Men get abused all kinds of way. Example jayz in the elevator. That's domestic violence.
 
RaiderLL said:
Perfect example of my point. I've said over and over that it never Ok to beat on someone smaller. This has never been a gender issue, no matter how much GL wanted to paint that picture. People should always defend themselves to the extent necessary for their safety. The man in the original video didn't do that. His ego got hurt and he went too far. If you can't walk away (like the video shown here), defend yourself, but regardless of gender I think that defense is only justifiable to the extent that was necessary to regain control of your own safety.
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Well said, the two videos are very different. Hope you and yours had a great Holdiay Raider!
 
4north1side2 said:
I and my son's mother raise our sons if someone hits you, hit them back no matter the gender. My mother tells them this and so does my girlfriend.

Abusive women is a huge problem and its people like you who don't see it as a problem which condones these women behavior.
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They are your kids and you have the right to raise them anyway you see fit, I just hope you are aware of the potential legal ramifications that can come along with teaching them such a mindset.
 
Loki said:
They are your kids and you have the right to raise them anyway you see fit, I just hope you are aware of the potential legal ramifications that can come along with teaching them such a mindset.
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Everyone is aware of the legal ramifications against a man but you're also saying to women that its legal to kick a mans ass
 
4north1side2 said:
I and my son's mother raise our sons if someone hits you, hit them back no matter the gender. My mother tells them this and so does my girlfriend.

Abusive women is a huge problem and its people like you who don't see it as a problem which condones these women behavior.
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Damn. I guess we live in completely different worlds. I find it strange that you'd have to tell your son to "hit them back no matter what the gender". Also find it absurd that you'd say physically abusive women are a "huge problem".

I guess all I can say is unless violent women are a "huge problem" in your life, there are bigger fights to fight and more productive ways to respond to a shove and love tap from a female half your size than a round house punch. And if violent women are indeed a "huge problem" in your life, I'm not the one to comment because that's way beyond my sphere of experience.

I've been around a bit, and I'm just not seeing this "huge problem". Maybe I got it all wrong. :^/
 
medullaslashin said:
Damn. I guess we live in completely different worlds. I find it strange that you'd have to tell your son to "hit them back no matter what the gender". Also find it absurd that you'd say physically abusive women are a "huge problem".

I guess all I can say is unless violent women are a "huge problem" in your life, there are bigger fights to fight and more productive ways to respond to a shove and love tap from a female half your size than a round house punch. And if violent women are indeed a "huge problem" in your life, I'm not the one to comment because that's way beyond my sphere of experience.

I've been around a bit, and I'm just not seeing this "huge problem". Maybe I got it all wrong. :^/
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You don't read or watch the news much do you?
 
goodlove8 said:
Everyone is aware of the legal ramifications against a man but you're also saying to women that its legal to kick a mans ass
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NO that is not what im saying AT ALL, if a woman attacks you, but you are in no immediate danger, like the first video, the BEST thing to do is to leave immediately, file a police report, collect evidence and prosecute. As I said in an earlier post, if the football player had done that, he would not have lost a year of his scholarship, his future draft position and $ would not have been affected, *he* could have sued *her* in civil court with the potential for monetary gain, instead of the other way around like it is now, he would NOT have a criminal record, *she* would. MUCH smarter way to make sure that "she doesn't get away with it", and suffers consequences for her way out of line behavior. There are in fact remedies WITHIN the law that men can take against women in such situations, IF they use their brains instead of their brawn.
 
goodlove8 said:
Everyone is aware of the legal ramifications against a man but you're also saying to women that its legal to kick a mans ass
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You're "aware of the legal ramifications" but are OK with sacrificing your child's freedom and future by promoting that any woman deserves "an ass whooping" if she touches him? Can you seriously not see the gigantic disconnect there?

Loki has said my exact feelings on this tropic so much more eloquently than I ever could, so I'll just leave you to read and reflect on his posts.
 
goodlove8 said:
You don't read or watch the news much do you?
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guess I'm watching the wrong kinda news. lol. Are women beating men's asses all over the news these days?

Look -- it's just not happening like that guys. Women are not attacking men all over the news. I barely watch local news where they might carry stupid shit like that, but I will state right here & now that it is not happening.

It is not a "huge problem". Maybe it hurts you guys whenever it does happen. But no -- stop making shit up in feline-style effort to "win the argument". It is not a huge problem, and you know it. :^)
 
medullaslashin said:
guess I'm watching the wrong kinda news. lol. Are women beating men's asses all over the news these days?

Look -- it's just not happening like that guys. Women are not attacking men all over the news. I barely watch local news where they might carry stupid shit like that, but I will state right here & now that it is not happening.

It is not a "huge problem". Maybe it hurts you guys whenever it does happen. But no -- stop making shit up in feline-style effort to "win the argument". It is not a huge problem, and you know it. :^)
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They've got to be going just for arguments sake at this point. I can't imagine ANY parent risking their child's future and safety by endorsing unjustified violence. It makes absolutely no sense. Ego once again wins out over common sense here. Smh
 
Don't even try it. You know good and well we were talking more than that situation. I was and have been saying that if a woman put her hands on you defend yourself.

You surely don't get it. If someone put hands on you they are trying to inflect pain. Period.

When you fight...you fight to live for another day.

Loki said:
NO that is not what im saying AT ALL, if a woman attacks you, but you are in no immediate danger, like the first video, the BEST thing to do is to leave immediately, file a police report, collect evidence and prosecute. As I said in an earlier post, if the football player had done that, he would not have lost a year of his scholarship, his future draft position and $ would not have been affected, *he* could have sued *her* in civil court with the potential for monetary gain, instead of the other way around like it is now, he would NOT have a criminal record, *she* would. MUCH smarter way to make sure that "she doesn't get away with it", and suffers consequences for her way out of line behavior. There are in fact remedies WITHIN the law that men can take against women in such situations, IF they use their brains instead of their brawn.
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RaiderLL said:
They've got to be going just for arguments sake at this point. I can't imagine ANY parent risking their child's future and safety by endorsing unjustified violence. It makes absolutely no sense. Ego once again wins out over common sense here. Smh
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Ego? Really? Smh
 
goodlove8 said:
Don't even try it. You know good and well we were talking more than that situation. I was and have been saying that if a woman put her hands on you defend yourself.

You surely don't get it. If someone put hands on you they are trying to inflect pain. Period.

When you fight...you fight to live for another day.
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What...the...hell...are...you...talking about?!?!?!?!?!?!? We have been talking about the first video for many pages now. I have CLEARLY stated that not every situation is the same, and that in some cases retaliatory violence could be very well justifiable and legal. When you make blanket statements like you did above "if a woman put(s) her hands on you defend yourself", you are making a blanket statement that could bring about life altering legal consequences. Im at a loss with what to make of you GL, truly.
 
goodlove8 said:
Don't even try it. You know good and well we were talking more than that situation. I was and have been saying that if a woman put her hands on you defend yourself.

You surely don't get it. If someone put hands on you they are trying to inflect pain. Period.

When you fight...you fight to live for another day.
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But you aren't saying to defend yourself, you're talking about ass whoopings. Loki and I spoke of legal defense, you spoke of anyone laying a finger on you deserving an all out ass whooping. Huge difference.
 
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