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Bliss said:
Yet you and AB continue to believe (in this thread) a FAKE DOSSIER that contained information about peeing hookers on Trump in Obama's sacred hotel bed, even though, and even after, bloggers on 4Chan came clean that they put it out as fake news as a joke, incredulous people took the bait.

Spare me, lol.
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Just pay attention to the news as more details leak out. Also, take notice of how many Russian FSB intelligence agents strangely end up dead who were associated with the Trump dossier.
Don't focus so much on the kinky sex aspect and reflect on the dossier's key assertions that Putin and Russia had been cultivating Trump for 5 years as a Russian political pawn, that members of Trump's campaign, specifically Paul Manafort, Carter Page and Paul Cohen are alleged to have been Russian informants within the Trump campaign.

And if Trump lobbies to lift sanctions against Russia at some future date without any type of obvious reciprocity from Russia, then you'll know IMO that the Russian involvement in the 2016 presidential election was true.

After all that, ask yourself why Trump has NEVER been critical of Vladimir Putin even once?????
Trump talks shit involuntarily about some of his closest political allies. Not so with Putin. All respect, all the time.
We aren't talking about France/UK/Germany/Canada.
We at best have had a circumspect relationship with Russia, yet somehow the Donald KNOWS that Putin is a good guy.

As for your attempts to take one bad example to discredit ALL of politifact's long history of playing it straight down the middle, sorry but that doesn't fly.

Politifact goes after both progressives and conservatives and is more non-biased and objective than any fact checking site on the interwebz. There is no equivalent of Politifact anywhere.
 
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Bliss said:
Negative. That's your whiskey koolaid, not mine.
Wine drinka, myself..
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Cheers mate
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To stay consistent with your patriotism. Are you drinking that mediocre California wine and driving an American car? Lol
 
ColiBreh1 said:
https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/826156303659720706
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https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30...as-a-moroccan-muslim-hes-a-white-nationalist/
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Horrific carnage.
From my readings, there was a lot of confusion in the fluid situation. Reports from witnesses said they heard "Allah Akbah".
One suspect arrested was indeed Morrocan but he was released after it became apparent he was a actually a witness. (smh)

Meanwhile a fake News site put out a news release that it was two White Supremacists.
The Daily Beast hastily jumped on it, but later retracted it and apologized..

"The Daily Beast wrongfully accused two fictitious white supremacists as the prime suspects in the Quebec City mosque shooting Sunday night after falling for a bogus Reuters Twitter account.

Late Sunday night, an unverified account pretending to be Reuters tweeted, “Authorities have identified the suspects in #Quebec City shooting as white supremacists David M.J. Aurinead David M.J. Aurine and Mathieu Fournier.”

We now know it turned out to be a murderous French White male from the local University.
 
Bliss said:
Horrific carnage.
From my readings, there was a lot of confusion in the fluid situation. Reports from witnesses said they heard "Allah Akbah".
One suspect arrested was indeed Morrocan but he was released after it became apparent he was a actually a witness. (smh)

Meanwhile a fake News site put out a news release that it was two White Supremacists.
The Daily Beast hastily jumped on it, but later retracted it and apologized..

"The Daily Beast wrongfully accused two fictitious white supremacists as the prime suspects in the Quebec City mosque shooting Sunday night after falling for a bogus Reuters Twitter account.

Late Sunday night, an unverified account pretending to be Reuters tweeted, “Authorities have identified the suspects in #Quebec City shooting as white supremacists David M.J. Aurinead David M.J. Aurine and Mathieu Fournier.”

We now know it turned out to be a murderous French White male from the local University.
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French people ain't white now? Lol
 
andreboba said:
Just pay attention to the news as more details leak out. Also, take notice of how many Russian FSB intelligence agents strangely end up dead who were associated with the Trump dossier.
Don't focus so much on the kinky sex aspect and reflect on the dossier's key assertions that Putin and Russia had been cultivating Trump for 5 years as a Russian political pawn, that members of Trump's campaign, specifically Paul Manafort, Carter Page and Paul Cohen are alleged to have been Russian informants within the Trump campaign.

And if Trump lobbies to lift sanctions against Russia at some future date without any type of obvious reciprocity from Russia, then you'll know IMO that the Russian involvement in the 2016 presidential election was true.

After all that, ask yourself why Trump has NEVER been critical of Vladimir Putin even once?????
Trump talks shit involuntarily about some of his closest political allies. Not so with Putin. All respect, all the time.
We aren't talking about France/UK/Germany/Canada.
We at best have had a circumspect relationship with Russia, yet somehow the Donald KNOWS that Putin is a good guy.

As for your attempts to take one bad example to discredit ALL of politifact's long history of playing it straight down the middle, sorry but that doesn't fly.

Politifact goes after both progressives and conservatives and is more non-biased and objective than and fact checking site on the interwebz. There is no equivalent of Politifact anywhere.
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Nope...Politifact are biased against Republicans.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs...inds-fact-checkers-biased-against-republicans

Again..lookup who created, owns and runs the site.

Not unlike Snopes, who were exposed in a crazy divorce case. A main writer, a dominitrix, admitted to being high when writing her blogs. Just a whole lot of fuckery and yet, Facebook is using them and Politifact to decide if a news story makes it on Facebook. Holy crap.

Onto Putin.
First, l would like to congratulate you and welcome to the Conspiracy Club, lol.
Oh how you would rail me for even hinting the Clintons were capable of eliminating their foes or potential whistleblowers that threatened their rise to power.
So I'm going to agree with you that Vlad has people killed who betray him or threaten to expose him.

I don't know that Manafort, Page and Cohen are KGB spies, highly improbable, and Trump is a pawn? Lol...the probability that Vlad picked Trump FIVE YEARS AGO to groom him to be the POTUS is funny as hell.

Our of a plethora of politicians...he picks a ballsy triple married real-estate and Golf course builder reality tv business man.
Okay.

About the santions...

What if l told you eight years ago that a off the radar Senator who became President would eventually lift Sanctions on Cuba, cease their Refugee program, pay Iran billions in ransom money, and lift nuclear-related economic sanctions in Iran..
Would you be suspicious of him?


Back to Putin...remember Obama on open mic told The Faux President of Russia to tell Vlad he will have more flexibility to take care of him after re-election?

So, in an effort to be bi-partisan here, the article below outlines how "thug" Vlad cons all of our leaders..it's quite the fascinating insight into his manipulation of our Leaders...past, and likely present..

www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2016/04/20/u-s-russian-relations-beyond-obama/amp/?client=ms-android-att-aio-us
 
Beasty said:
To stay consistent with your patriotism. Are you drinking that mediocre California wine and driving an American car? Lol
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Wot's wrong with Cali wine? I'm not a wine snob..my fave was Canai but they stopped selling it in PA..I could order it from Italy but why when we have vineyards in the US.

My car is manufactured in the U.S.
Headquarters are in Asia, but built here.
Aren't you a patriot, too?
Do tell.
 
ColiBreh1 said:
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Americans associate Muslim with non-black Middle-eastern Arab. So I don't think African American Muslims have to worry. I am wondering about non-AA black Muslims like Somalians though.
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Anyone who would have as his chief advisor (Bannon), a voice who believes Islam is evil and advocates a white nationalist platform, cannot be trusted to protect anyone who doesn't see the world as he or they see it. No believer of Islam is safe unless they already have business dealings with his hinneyness.... After he's purged foreign followers, (If Sessions becomes his DOJ), who is going to call a foul if an AA is put in the hole? ... 'radical islamist terrorists'... think that excludes American citizens? We'll see
 
Bliss said:
Look, Obama is a master orator.
Make no mistake though - the man got pissed plenty of times, he was merely skillful enough to frame it in a manner that got his digs in by way of polite delivery. Down to his middle finger salute, lol.
Crafty and funny. Loved it.

However, his fawning press fanboys certainly would never frame it as shots when he fired them.

As for Streep, if she bashed Obama on a global stage, pretty sure he'd respond to it. Again..in his slick way, but l sure as he'll would not blame him.

Lastly, you seriously don't think Obama wouldn't have responded if that obnoxious display of screeching women was directed at him?
Stop it, lol. Any human would.

Imagine: from Madonna wanting to Bl ow the White House up, to Judd calling him Hitler, talking period blood and saying he has wet dreams about his daughters, Obama would be pissed.

But really what exactly DID Trump say in response that has you and Since in a tizzy..
Let's examine..
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Donald J. Trump

?@realDonaldTrump
Watched protests yesterday but was under the impression that we just had an election! Why didn't these people vote? Celebs hurt cause badly.

7:47 AM - 22 Jan 2017

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Donald J. Trump

?@realDonaldTrump
Peaceful protests are a hallmark of our democracy. Even if I don't always agree, I recognize the rights of people to express their views.

9:23 AM - 22 Jan 2017
So you mean to tell me those two tweets have you triggered in outrage?? :confused:
Maaan, l WISH he smacked them down harder. His restraint is commendable and you should be happy it was.
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Yeah, we need the National Guard... As it is, we have protesters getting tear gassed or pepper sprayed...
Reminiscent of the peaceful protests in Turkey a few years ago..

Restraint and Trump in the same sentence??? Surely you have those rose tinted lenses on. I don't dare give you numerous examples, because you'll only deny or reclassify lies (what's the new phrase Alternate facts....) as truth.

I'll try to be brief... Obama = hope and change in the eyes, of a majority of the nation... during his tenure, Republicans and Tea Party movements, first adopted a "four and no more" policy, but for 8 years, even when he tried to compromise, the right adopted a "No" strategy...

Try as you may to validify Trump as an answer to the many woes this country surfers, there's a larger majority who believe he's not the one... Currently he is only working through his minions, and playing to voices who welcomed his lies (and he's told many), distorted truths (called alternate facts) and divisive rhetoric.

The purpose of all said before was to focus on the bigger picture... Is Bannon his Number Two and thereby shaping not only national policy, but international and strategic policy? If so, where does that leave the VP, who by the way, in the opinion of all but the most extreme conservatives, is hard core conservative christian... More importantly, if he was really "draining the swamp of Washington outsiders", what has refilled the swamp with?

And where does that leave anyone who doesn't share his vision, his (recent) religion, or the lies?

Protest!!!!!

Not attacking, just asking...
 
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The problem with politics today is those long serving politicians. These people haven't been any higher than where they are and love seems political service so much they hide behind the scenes. They have seen changes of the times and claim they could affect change. Yet all they do is keep up appearances. I believe that has to change NOW.

Sure, these people can get their pensions and other benefits. But make room for younger people and younger ideas. We cannot keep clinging to old time politics.

My mother once told me in her religious way, "The young may die, but the old must die."

"Hey,hey!(clap clap)Ho,ho!(clap clap)You longtime politicians have got to go!"

In the past, younger candidates like John F. Kennedy, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama succeeded because they had the vision of a bold new country rising up from an old one. Healing from old wounds.

The longtime politicians also had a vision, in the beginning.

Another thing that has to change is the special interests groups that have infiltrated and influenced the political system. A politician may be bought but they can also be influenced in some way or another.

If one goes into politics, no matter if they are democrat, republican, independent, conservative, liberal or middle of the road, acknowledgement of the people is most important. Not serving oneself.

There are differences and we must all acknowledge and accept them.

It may be naive in these uncertain times but it makes sense.
 
Bliss said:
Nope...Politifact are biased against Republicans.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs...inds-fact-checkers-biased-against-republicans

Again..lookup who created, owns and runs the site.
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https://ivn.us/2014/07/11/how-reliable-are-fact-check-sources/
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In every link you post about Politifact they are offering "opinions" that Politifact is biased based on more false ratings for conservatives than for liberals. They are not bringing any facts to dispute those false ratings, just complaining that conservatives are targeted more than liberals. You continually gloss over the fact that the Pulitzer organization (who use heavy vetting procedures) have given their award to Politifact. Now of course no fact check group is 100% perfect all the time, but until you or anybody else can show actual flaws with their ratings, not just that they focus on conservatives more than liberals (there may be some truth to that, although not as much as is stated in your prior links imo), they along with factcheck.org and the Washington Post's fact check group remain just as viable as any other source. For a more unbiased and fair analysis of the fact checkers see the link below.

https://ivn.us/2014/07/11/how-reliable-are-fact-check-sources/
 
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Bliss said:
The DHS source...."But did not elaborate"
Why don't you question that, Loki?

Further on... Johnson deflects on Haney...and as Haney stated..the deletion of files orders gave the Administration plausable deniability.

You know dang well that ME terrorists are up to their necks in Islam. They may have skewered perceptions of it, but it's their primary allegiance and justification to slaughter infidels en mass.
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Bliss said:
The DHS source...."But did not elaborate"
Why don't you question that, Loki?

Further on... Johnson deflects on Haney...and as Haney stated..the deletion of files orders gave the Administration plausable deniability.

You know dang well that ME terrorists are up to their necks in Islam. They may have skewered perceptions of it, but it's their primary allegiance and justification to slaughter infidels en mass.
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Bliss go to 3:54 and 9:21 in the video below, and then search youtube about Phil Haney and his very fundamental Christian/anti-muslim lectures. Whether the documents were scrubbed of references to the Muslim brotherhood, or radical Islamic terrorism, it clearly did not change who was targeted in the war against terror. Haney's testimony (and book sales) were clearly an attempt to paint president Obama, and his administration as somehow sympathetic to, or outright supportive of Islamic terrorism, which is highly offensive, racist, and patently untrue based on the facts.

 
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ColiBreh1 said:
For someone who seems to be such a conservative/right-wing shill, I'm confused about why you voted for a leftist 3rd-party candidate for president.
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Because he doesn't eat hamburgers.

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Bliss said:
Wot's wrong with Cali wine? I'm not a wine snob..my fave was Canai but they stopped selling it in PA..I could order it from Italy but why when we have vineyards in the US.

My car is manufactured in the U.S.
Headquarters are in Asia, but built here.
Aren't you a patriot, too?
Do tell.
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I'm not the right wing type of patriot. I don't put the flag before the citizens; likewise, I don't put origin before quality. Nothing wrong with Cali wine, it's just mediocre. I'll stick with the European and Argentinian brands until they step their game up. I'm getting better quality for the same price. Why not?

Knew you wasn't driving an American car......lol. You traitor. Those people could be working for an American company if people would buy American. That company is still going to pay taxes and invest in Asia when they move their money back over there.
 
Pretty sure the MSM ignored this.

"The President is proud to have been the first ever GOP nominee to have mentioned the LGBTQ community in his nomination speech, pledging to protect the community from violence and oppression. Yesterday, President Trump said he was supporting an Obama EO protecting LGBTQ rights in the workplace." said the White House.

At least they covered his comments at a Black History Month Presser..

https://mobile.twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/826816423909539841/video/1

*(Also, time permitting, l plan to condense my replies to various members whom either asked me a similar question (the non-rhetorical ones, haha) or made similar counter-arguments to me, in order to avoid refundancy.. in our various.on-going debates.)
 
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