Sexual Harassment/Assault Scandals

Loki said:
Dont be so sure about that, according to her, she reached out in that email to reconnect, in hopes of getting Trump to admit what he had done. As to why criminal charges have not been filed, look at Weinstein, Cosby, Affleck, and numerous others, in many cases criminal charges have not been filed at all, or took a long time to file. As you have stated many times here, there are numerous reasons why women do not persue criminal sexual assault charges against powerful men who can damage their career. Not to mention such charges are VERY hard to prove in a court of law because often times it comes down to a "he said - she said" scenario, without much hard evidence.

Lastly, from a legal standpoint mere allegations are usually not enough to get someone arrested. You or I could make allegations about someone famous tomorrow if we like, it does not mean they will be arrested.
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Lets clear up my position on rape. Which is not the issue with Trump, try as you might.

I have said that women, in the past often did not come forward.
At the time when rape was not believed by women claiming it, when rape kits didn't exist, and yes when women are drugged and cannot prove they were raped, then l understand women not coming forward. Especially against powerful men.
However today, women can come forward,. And should. Even though it's still tough to prove.

But this woman wan not raped, Loki. And you know it. She said she was harrassed and when you read her allegations, they are not criminal.
To quote Shan Wu, a former sex crimes prosecutor for the Department of Justice and current criminal defense attorney in Washington;
"I think one thing that people are not doing a good job of distinguishing between, is criminal sexual assault versus, perhaps, sexual harassment, or just pure crass behavior."

Loki, as a woman, men have tried to kiss me many times throughout my life. I have had my ass pinched, my breasts pinched and squeezed, my ass slapped, I was at work and I had a co-worker come up and kiss my bare shoulder as a greeting. I had a friend's male friend masturbate while sitting at a bar, during our conversation (l asked him in disbelief, "was he masturbating"?? His response - he blamed it on "my sexiness".) I let it go. Like l do for most times l'm harrassed.
Men do a LOT of creepy things sexual in nature without asking. However, this lawsuit is not rape, and It's disingenuous and disrespectful to victims of sexual assault to imply it is.
 
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Scotland Yard is investigating magician David Blaine after a model accused him of raping her in London. Police have asked Blaine to come to Britain to be interviewed, according to emails reviewed by The Daily Beast.

Natasha Prince claims Blaine raped her at a private home in London’s Chelsea neighborhood in the summer of 2004, months after her 21st birthday, she told The Daily Beast in her first-ever interview on the subject.

She suggests he drugged her drink. She reported him to police in 2016. There is no Statute of Limitations on rape in Britain.
 
An investor who was going to bail out Harvey Weinstein's Company has now backed out after the Lawyer Spying allegations.
So his company most likely is going to go into bankruptcy.
From the most powerful in Hollywood.... to bankrupt.
 
Bliss said:
Gossip Girl star Ed Westwick has been accused of raping actress Kristina Cohen.

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The 27-year-old Ladies Like Us actress took to Facebook on Monday night alleging that Westwick forcibly held her down and raped her at his home three years ago.

In her post, Cohen said she had gone to the 30-year-old British actor's home for dinner with her producer boyfriend at the time when she took a nap in his guest bedroom.

'I was woken up abruptly by Ed on top of me, his fingers entering my body. I told him to stop, but he was strong. I fought him off as hard as I could but he grabbed my face in his hands, shaking me, telling me he wanted to fuck me,' she wrote.

'I was paralyzed, terrified. I couldn't speak, I could no longer move. He held me down and raped me.

'The producer put the blame on me, telling me I was an active participant. Telling me that I can't say anything because Ed will have people come after me, destroy me, and that I could forget about an acting career. Saying there's no way I can go around saying Ed 'raped' me and that I don't want to be 'that girl'.'

Westwick has not yet responded to the allegations but DailyMail.com has contacted his representative for comment.

The actress said she had tried to convince her producer boyfriend, who was friends with Westwick, to leave prior to the alleged assault but he had asked her to stay a while longer.

'I wanted to leave when Ed suggested 'we should all fuck'. But the producer didn't want to make Ed feel awkward by leaving,' she said.

Ed insisted we stay for dinner. I said I was tired and wanted to leave, trying to get out of what was already an uncomfortable situation. Ed suggested I nap in the guest bedroom. The producer said we would stay for just another 20 more minutes to smooth everything over, and then we could leave.'

Cohen said she was encouraged to speak out three years after the alleged attack following the outpouring of stories this past month in the wake of the Harvey Weinstein scandal.

She at the time of the alleged assault she was in a dark place.

'My mom was dying of cancer and I didn't have the support system or time to process and deal with the aftermath of the rape. I buried my pain and guilt to make space for the onslaught that came after my mom's death, just three months later,' she said.

'Even now, I grapple with feelings of guilt. Unfounded worry that in some way I was to blame. I don't know where these feelings come from.

'I've grown considerably in the three years since my assault, so to revisit is painful.'

Westwick has been dating former America's Next Top Model contestant Jessica Serfaty for the past few months.
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She has now officially filed a rape complaint to the LAPD. They have opened an investigation and are seeking to question him.
 
Bliss said:
Lets clear up my position on rape. Which is not the issue with Trump, try as you might.

I have said that women, in the past often did not come forward.
At the time when rape was not believed by women claiming it, when rape kits didn't exist, and yes when women are drugged and cannot prove they were raped, then l understand women not coming forward. Especially against powerful men.
However today, women can come forward,. And should. Even though it's still tough to prove.

But this woman wan not raped, Loki. And you know it. She said she was harrassed and when you read her allegations, they are not criminal.
To quote Shan Wu, a former sex crimes prosecutor for the Department of Justice and current criminal defense attorney in Washington;
"I think one thing that people are not doing a good job of distinguishing between, is criminal sexual assault versus, perhaps, sexual harassment, or just pure crass behavior."

Loki, as a woman, men have tried to kiss me many times throughout my life. I have had my ass pinched, my breasts pinched and squeezed, my ass slapped, I was at work and I had a co-worker come up and kiss my shoulder as a greeting. I had a friend's male friend masturbate while sitting at a bar, during our conversation ( l asked him in disbelief, "was he masturbating?? him - he blamed it on "my sexiness".) I let it go. Like l do for most times l'm harrassed.
Men do a LOT of creepy things sexual in nature without asking. However, this lawsuit is not rape, and It's disingenuous and disrespectful to victims of sexual assault to imply it is.
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Not quite sure why you trying to narrowly define the charges to rape Bliss. Here is a common legal definition of sexual assault "Sexual assault is any type of sexual contact or behavior that occurs without the explicit consent of the recipient. Falling under the definition of sexual assault are sexual activities as forced sexual intercourse, forcible sodomy, child molestation, incest, fondling, and attempted rape." The definition can vary to some degree in different jurisdictions, but is pretty uniform nationwide.

Given the descriptions of the accusations against Trump, if true, his actions fit the definition of sexual assault.

As far as the rape charges, do not put words in my mouth, I have never said Trump is guilty of rape, just merely pointed out that he has been accused of the rape of a child, and had a lawsuit for "attempted rape" back in 1997, that was essentially settled out of court, the case was dismissed "without prejudice" at the same time Trump paid out a speculated six figure sum, to Harth's husband's company in which he was in another legal dispute. As you have heard me say before with Cosby, when a person of means pays to have the charges go away, that is a pretty good (but not definitive) indication of a smoking gun.

"In January 1993, when Jill Harth and Houraney visited Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s Florida estate, he allegedly pulled her into one of his children’s bedrooms, pushed her up against the wall, groped her, and tried to get under her dress again. Harth has accused him of “attempted rape, (https://www.scribd.com/doc/300193678/1997-Jill-Harth-Lawsuit?ad_group=1025X498259X5a113ee5ace7b17995e893f3102e6cc1&campaign=Skimbit%2C+Ltd.&content=10079&irgwc=1&keyword=ft750noi&medium=affiliate&source=impactradius)” while Trump has called the allegations “meritless.”
 
Loki said:
Not quite sure why you trying to narrowly define the charges to rape Bliss. Here is a common legal definition of sexual assault "Sexual assault is any type of sexual contact or behavior that occurs without the explicit consent of the recipient. Falling under the definition of sexual assault are sexual activities as forced sexual intercourse, forcible sodomy, child molestation, incest, fondling, and attempted rape." The definition can vary to some degree in different jurisdictions, but is pretty uniform nationwide.

Given the descriptions of the accusations against Trump, if true, his actions fit the definition of sexual assault.

As far as the rape charges, do not put words in my mouth, I have never said Trump is guilty of rape, just merely pointed out that he has been accused of the rape of a child, and had a lawsuit for "attempted rape" back in 1997, that was essentially settled out of court, the case was dismissed "without prejudice" at the same time Trump paid out a speculated six figure sum, to Harth's husband's company in which he was in another legal dispute. As you have heard me say before with Cosby, when a person of means pays to have the charges go away, that is a pretty good (but not definitive) indication of a smoking gun.

"In January 1993, when Jill Harth and Houraney visited Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s Florida estate, he allegedly pulled her into one of his children’s bedrooms, pushed her up against the wall, groped her, and tried to get under her dress again. Harth has accused him of “attempted rape, (https://www.scribd.com/doc/300193678/1997-Jill-Harth-Lawsuit?ad_group=1025X498259X5a113ee5ace7b17995e893f3102e6cc1&campaign=Skimbit%2C+Ltd.&content=10079&irgwc=1&keyword=ft750noi&medium=affiliate&source=impactradius)” while Trump has called the allegations “meritless.”
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So the husband and wife wanted a contract, the wife said Trump attempted to put his hand up her dress and fondle her, and then filed a money lawsuit calling it an "attempted rape".
Then when the husband got the contract, she dropped her suit. But she never went to the police. Do l have that correct?
 
Bliss said:
So the husband and wife wanted a contract, the wife said Trump attempted to put his hand up her dress and fondle her, and then filed a money lawsuit calling it an "attempted rape".
Then when the husband got the contract, she dropped her suit. But she never went to the police. Do l have that correct?
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Thats certainly one interpretation, another interpretation is below,

"Houraney, who owned the events planning company, sued Trump for breach of contract, and the two sides eventually reached a confidential settlement. Harth says Trump paid somewhat more than $100,000. Harth separately had filed her sexual harassment suit, which also alleged attempted rape; she withdrew her suit as a condition for settling the contract dispute, she says.

After the settlement, Houraney and Harth say, Trump reached out to them, inviting them to a party and coming across as so charming that they wondered if he had been transformed. Not long after this, Houraney and Harth, who had married in 1995, had a bitter falling out and divorce.

Houraney and Harth haven’t spoken in years, but they offered almost identical accounts when I interviewed them separately, and their stories match Harth’s deposition and her sexual harassment lawsuit from the time."
 
Bliss said:
Your comment reminded me of an expressed 'belief' l keep reading online...that "men are homosexual and women bi-sexual". As in, a gay women will at some point, enjoy or seek the D, whereas a gay man has no desire for the V.
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????

I know some lesbos who would smack you in the face for saying that.lol
The term DL came into vogue because there were a segment of married and single BM who dated and fucked women, but were still sneaking around with other dudes when others weren't looking.
That's a textbook definition of bisexual, the issue is men aren't generally classified that way by society. Particularly in the Black community.
You could be that brotha who slayed 300 females, but let it get out that you messed with a couple dudes too and that brotha is automatically labeled gay.

That's Kerry Rhodes issue. And Tyler Perry. Eddie Murphy.

I know a lot of Black folk who write them all off as gay, despite their sexual relationships with women.
 
andreboba said:
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I know some lesbos who would smack you in the face for saying that.lol
The term DL came into vogue because there were a segment of married and single BM who dated and fucked women, but were still sneaking around with other dudes when others weren't looking.
That's a textbook definition of bisexual, the issue is men aren't generally classified that way by society. Particularly in the Black community.
You could be that brotha who slayed 300 females, but let it get out that you messed with a couple dudes too and that brotha is automatically labeled gay.

That's Kerry Rhodes issue. And Tyler Perry. Eddie Murphy.

I know a lot of Black folk who write them all off as gay, despite their sexual relationships with women.
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I though Tyler Perry was just straight up gay and hadn't come out yet.
 
Loki said:
Not quite sure why you trying to narrowly define the charges to rape Bliss. Here is a common legal definition of sexual assault "Sexual assault is any type of sexual contact or behavior that occurs without the explicit consent of the recipient. Falling under the definition of sexual assault are sexual activities as forced sexual intercourse, forcible sodomy, child molestation, incest, fondling, and attempted rape." The definition can vary to some degree in different jurisdictions, but is pretty uniform nationwide.

Given the descriptions of the accusations against Trump, if true, his actions fit the definition of sexual assault.

As far as the rape charges, do not put words in my mouth, I have never said Trump is guilty of rape, just merely pointed out that he has been accused of the rape of a child, and had a lawsuit for "attempted rape" back in 1997, that was essentially settled out of court, the case was dismissed "without prejudice" at the same time Trump paid out a speculated six figure sum, to Harth's husband's company in which he was in another legal dispute. As you have heard me say before with Cosby, when a person of means pays to have the charges go away, that is a pretty good (but not definitive) indication of a smoking gun.

"In January 1993, when Jill Harth and Houraney visited Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s Florida estate, he allegedly pulled her into one of his children’s bedrooms, pushed her up against the wall, groped her, and tried to get under her dress again. Harth has accused him of “attempted rape, (https://www.scribd.com/doc/300193678/1997-Jill-Harth-Lawsuit?ad_group=1025X498259X5a113ee5ace7b17995e893f3102e6cc1&campaign=Skimbit%2C+Ltd.&content=10079&irgwc=1&keyword=ft750noi&medium=affiliate&source=impactradius)” while Trump has called the allegations “meritless.”
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That's one accusation I haven't heard of before. Did he work to get that swept under the rug? The media must've been protecting him HARD in the 90's.
 
andreboba said:
Which proves my point. Tyler Perry and his GF/wife Gelila Bekele just had a baby boy, but most of us looking at him see a sweet ass brotha, despite evidence to the contrary that he knows his way around some pussy.lol
Ain't no bi BM. Even when there are.
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Yeah, she clearly is his beard. Way too many rumors for too many years, for me to believe she's anything but a beard. It doesn't help that he was famous for a decade & was never romantically linked to any women, than outta nowhere he announces he has a pregnant girlfriend.
 
Bliss said:
Gossip Girl star Ed Westwick has been accused of raping actress Kristina Cohen.

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The 27-year-old Ladies Like Us actress took to Facebook on Monday night alleging that Westwick forcibly held her down and raped her at his home three years ago.

In her post, Cohen said she had gone to the 30-year-old British actor's home for dinner with her producer boyfriend at the time when she took a nap in his guest bedroom.

'I was woken up abruptly by Ed on top of me, his fingers entering my body. I told him to stop, but he was strong. I fought him off as hard as I could but he grabbed my face in his hands, shaking me, telling me he wanted to fuck me,' she wrote.

'I was paralyzed, terrified. I couldn't speak, I could no longer move. He held me down and raped me.

'The producer put the blame on me, telling me I was an active participant. Telling me that I can't say anything because Ed will have people come after me, destroy me, and that I could forget about an acting career. Saying there's no way I can go around saying Ed 'raped' me and that I don't want to be 'that girl'.'

Westwick has not yet responded to the allegations but DailyMail.com has contacted his representative for comment.

The actress said she had tried to convince her producer boyfriend, who was friends with Westwick, to leave prior to the alleged assault but he had asked her to stay a while longer.

'I wanted to leave when Ed suggested 'we should all fuck'. But the producer didn't want to make Ed feel awkward by leaving,' she said.

Ed insisted we stay for dinner. I said I was tired and wanted to leave, trying to get out of what was already an uncomfortable situation. Ed suggested I nap in the guest bedroom. The producer said we would stay for just another 20 more minutes to smooth everything over, and then we could leave.'

Cohen said she was encouraged to speak out three years after the alleged attack following the outpouring of stories this past month in the wake of the Harvey Weinstein scandal.

She at the time of the alleged assault she was in a dark place.

'My mom was dying of cancer and I didn't have the support system or time to process and deal with the aftermath of the rape. I buried my pain and guilt to make space for the onslaught that came after my mom's death, just three months later,' she said.

'Even now, I grapple with feelings of guilt. Unfounded worry that in some way I was to blame. I don't know where these feelings come from.

'I've grown considerably in the three years since my assault, so to revisit is painful.'

Westwick has been dating former America's Next Top Model contestant Jessica Serfaty for the past few months.
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A 2nd woman is now accusing Chuck Bass of raping her: http://ew.com/tv/2017/11/09/gossip-girl-ed-westwick-sexual-assault-claim-second-woman/
 
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