Sexual Harassment/Assault Scandals

The Dark King said:
Seriously where does that leave us. How do we interact now? Are we going to voluntarily live like these oppressive Muslim regimes we don't like where women can only be around men in their families until its time to get married?
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The feminist hordes and the misogynist assholes are the loudest voices right now, but there are still plenty of people who are able to be rational about the state of male-female relations. I think once they've fumigated the Oval Office when Trump gets sent packing, the reasonable people will start taking back the conversation from the idiots spewing divisive rhetoric.
 
K said:
That's a really nice idea. However, again, it's part of what we have to in life. She should have money herself, have a friend give her a ride, or something set up. She could have asked one of the other women to give her a ride.

We all need to protect ourselves.
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Smh whatever happened to us looking out for each other. So damn sad
 
Thump said:
The feminist hordes and the misogynist assholes are the loudest voices right now, but there are still plenty of people who are able to be rational about the state of male-female relations. I think once they've fumigated the Oval Office when Trump gets sent packing, the reasonable people will start taking back the conversation from the idiots spewing divisive rhetoric.
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God one can only hope because even liberal women hell especially liberal women treat men like they are the enemy. The only way they see you as an ally is if you bow your head in submission.
 
The Dark King said:
Seriously where does that leave us. How do we interact now? Are we going to voluntarily live like these oppressive Muslim regimes we don't like where women can only be around men in their families until its time to get married?
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Good question. I did mention arranged marriage before. I'm more and more thinking it sounds like a great solution the way you are describing the situation there. I'm coming to NYC to open a match making agency.
 
The Dark King said:
Smh whatever happened to us looking out for each other. So damn sad
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It is!

I was just thinking about this with my daughter who works at weird hours because of what she does. Sometimes it can be a bit sketchy. She's trained in Martial Arts - but still. In her case, it is more of a situation of walking from her car in the parking lot into the business at a weird hour. She will call in and have a security guard come walk her in if needed. But of course they aren't going to walk someone 10 minutes away.

This isn't a new issue. I remember situations in my life where things have come up that were very uncomfortable. Most of us know that we have to have contingency plans for things in life.
 
The Dark King said:
I said we all leave together since I was the senior and couldn't leave until everyone left and didn't want to be left alone with any woman alone. And to the second question more than likely not but maybe since the same threat doesn't exist male to male.
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Hmmm...@ your first answer..since you were left alone with her when the husband picked up the other woman.

Isn't it presumptuous of you to assume that the male would not claim the same thing, ( or what if he was gay??) ...

My gut feeling from your anecdote was, where was your Humanity, she is still a human being who could have benefited from a ride late at night. If you're that paranoid about who gets in your car, why not invest $20-$40 in a dash-cam in which you explain to any passenger that it automatically turns on for insurance purposes. That way, you can still be the authentic you, with back-up protection. (you can even turn on your cell camera in your pocket).

I think you probably would have felt really good after taking her to the bus stop, versus feeling like a heel leaving her there to walk alone at night.
 
Madeleine said:
Good question. I did mention arranged marriage before. I'm more and more thinking it sounds like a great solution the way you are describing the situation there. I'm coming to NYC to open a match making agency.
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Seriously! A friend of mine was just telling me the woes of internet dating over 50 (he's on the old timers site). There has to be a better way.
 
Bliss said:
Hmmm...@ your first answer..since you were left alone with her when the husband picked up the other woman.

Isn't it presumptuous of you to assume that the male would not claim the same thing, ( or what if he was gay??) ...

My gut feeling from your anecdote was, where was your Humanity, she is still a human being who could have benefited from a ride late at night. If you're that paranoid about who gets in your car, why not invest $20-$40 in a dash-cam in which you explain to any passenger that it automatically turns on for insurance purposes. That way, you can still be the authetic you, with back-up protection. (even turning on your cell camera in your pocket).

I truly think you probably would have felt really good after taking her to the bus stop, versus feeling like a heel leaving her there to walk alone at night.
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You live and learn. Better safe than sorry. It's not presumptuous considering where the accusations are coming from.And to your point that reinforces everyone is on their own now no help anywhere ever. Do it all on your own. The Republican wet dream has come true.
 
Thump said:
The feminist hordes and the misogynist assholes are the loudest voices right now, but there are still plenty of people who are able to be rational about the state of male-female relations. I think once they've fumigated the Oval Office when Trump gets sent packing, the reasonable people will start taking back the conversation from the idiots spewing divisive rhetoric.
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Thump what are you talking about?
This has zero to do with Trump, this came about because of Liberal bigwig donor Harvey Weinstein. He was allowed to reign unabated by a legion of enablers, including Hillary and Obama, as long as he funded them.

Furthermore, Obama ordered policy directives to every College in the nation, that if they did not expel any male student that was accused of sexual misconduct, up to and including rape, by any female student, he would pull their Federal funding. No trial, no mediation..expulsion.

Here it is..
https://ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/school-discipline/index.html

Recently however, "Freedom Caucus Chairman Congressman Mark Meadows (R) recommended that President-Trump repeal the Department of Education's 2011 guidelines on campus sexual assault procedures."

As a result, last September..
Betsy DeVos Reverses Obama-era Policy on Campus Sexual Assault Investigations
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/...-assault.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

From the reversal..

"The most controversial portion of the Obama-era guidelines had demanded colleges use the lowest standard of proof, “preponderance of the evidence,” in deciding whether a student is responsible for sexual assault, a verdict that can lead to discipline and even expulsion.
On Friday, the Education Department (under DeVos) said colleges were free to abandon that standard and raise it to a higher standard known as “clear and convincing evidence.”
 
Madeleine said:
They'll get tired with the situation soon enough and start looking for men from countries with Macho cultures. Mark my words.
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But that's part of the issue. They already do. They want men who are alpha, will take control, put them up against the wall and kiss them (all the 50 shades of bullshit stuff too) AND the men are also supposed to be sensitive, emotional, blah blah blah. It's crazy!
 
Madeleine said:
Good question. I did mention arranged marriage before. I'm more and more thinking it sounds like a great solution the way you are describing the situation there. I'm coming to NYC to open a match making agency.
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We should merge your matchmaking agency with my travel agency that funnels African-American men to Australia for vacays
 
The Dark King said:
You live and learn. Better safe than sorry. It's not presumptuous considering where the accusations are coming from.And to your point that reinforces everyone is on their own now no help anywhere ever. Do it all on your own. The Republican wet dream has come true.
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Lol. The Republican "wet dream" is to chilvarously offer the lady a ride and make sure she arrives safely.
Don't act like this recent #metoo movement isn't 100% liberal directed and controlled. Obama said Women are the future and so did Hillary. Remember that, when women take over and leave you in the dust (or dark late at night).
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darkcurry said:
Yeah, apparently they expanded when I didn't notice(lol). Best Animated Short for his poem Dear Basketball that another filmmaker wanted to turn into a animated short movie.
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Interesting. Now lm curious to read his poem. (and see the short)
 
The Dark King said:
I thought the same thing but she had an older phone I don't think the woman was that into to tech to have the uber or lyft app on her phone, but I will keep it in my mind to keep cash on me to offer a cab because I felt absolutely awful it's late at night and its cold, I don't want to get to a place where our humanity has to go away because some people are assholes.
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You feel bad because you're a good dude. And, as bad as it sounds, you did the right thing. You have too much to lose over some potential "misunderstanding."

The only thing I would've done differently is I would've called an Uber or cab to her car. Then, let her know she has to plan better.

Maybe, you want to inform HR just in case. I don't know. I'm not in the corporate world.

But, don't beat yourself up over it. You did the right thing. Do you think it would be a good idea to let the woman know why you didn't offer her a ride? Or, could that cause more trouble?
 
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Bliss said:
Thump what are you talking about?
This has zero to do with Trump, this came about because of Liberal bigwig donor Harvey Weinstein. He was allowed to reign unabated by a legion of enablers, including Hillary and Obama, as long as he funded them.

Furthermore, Obama ordered policy directives to every College in the nation, that if they did not expel any male student that was accused of sexual misconduct, up to and including rape, by any female student, he would pull their Federal funding. No trial, no mediation..expulsion.

Here it is..
https://ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/school-discipline/index.html

Recently however, "Freedom Caucus Chairman Congressman Mark Meadows (R) recommended that President-Trump repeal the Department of Education's 2011 guidelines on campus sexual assault procedures."

As a result, last September..
Betsy DeVos Reverses Obama-era Policy on Campus Sexual Assault Investigations
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/...-assault.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

From the reversal..

"The most controversial portion of the Obama-era guidelines had demanded colleges use the lowest standard of proof, “preponderance of the evidence,” in deciding whether a student is responsible for sexual assault, a verdict that can lead to discipline and even expulsion.
On Friday, the Education Department (under DeVos) said colleges were free to abandon that standard and raise it to a higher standard known as “clear and convincing evidence.”
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Trump is an agent of chaos, his blatant misogynistic and racist rhetoric has emboldened racists and it has galvanized feminists and liberal extremists. Why else do you think both of the Women's marches that have happened since Trump took office have obliterated attendance records. Without the fire in their bellies caused by Trump, I doubt that the MeToo movement would have even been a thing.
 
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