Movies with BM/WW Couples

darkcurry said:
Well...
The Mountain Between Us is kind of the same way...
And there are still not that many bm/ww IR couples on screen so when you create one and have it be disastrous it's not a good look....
But you can't do this with a IR couple... At all! Because it's marginalizing.
We're not there yet to not see race in that, because the business they are in still have a PROBLEM with race and interracial between black men and white women.
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THIS. This is why representation is so crucial. When there aren't many representations of a people/situation, each representation takes on increased meaning. That's (part of) why tokenism is so bad: one person unfairly represents the entire group.

It simply means more when representations of minorities and interracial relationships go bad (which they do in many many ways). It's like back in the 90s and earlier, when most black men you saw represented were entertainers or athletes, servants or criminals. We STILL deal with dumb stereotypes (Uncle Toms, magical negroes, thugs, don't-care fathers, can't-help-it lazy losers, etc.), and we've made HUGE progress.

I think IRs, particularly bmww IRs, are in that pre/early-2000s place right now.
Better examples are s l o w l y starting to appear with (some) regularity (Midnight, Texas; The Good Place; the upcoming show Fam; more and more ads/commercials). Hopefully in another five years this will be a stale complaint.
 
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I know this is the movie thread, but this got me thinking...
This is also why shows like God Friended Me annoy me. It *seems* like there's a fated bmww couple that will pay off eventually, but we've all seen this stuff go wrong too many times in too many stupid ways (Supergirl anyone? 90210?). IMO society hasn't quite earned a bmww will they/won't they. We haven't seen them end up together enough yet.

Just my opinion...
 
Soulthinker said:
Had you seen it? If not the only thing l will say l was disappointed.
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Yeah, I saw Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. I really liked it.

I wasn't mad that there was no Miles/Gwen romance in it. I really don't see how they would've fit it in.
But I do see how hooking them up in the next movie makes sense. They laid just enough of a foundation IMO.
 
Here's a new one I haven't seen posted here. We get a channel here called Ion (is that national?). They're running their own Christmas themed movies, and one of them stars the guy from Save the Last Dance (Sean Patrick Thomas).
It's called Rent-an-Elf.

It's your standard Hallmark- or Lifetime-style movie. It has a RIDICULOUS plot. Here's the synopsis:
Type-A personality, Ava, owns “Rent-an-Elf,” a business in which she sets up memorable Christmas for busy families. This year, she's hired by the newly-single Liam and falls for him and his adorable son, Nathan. But, just as Ava thinks she’s found her match, Liam’s ex-wife returns, wanting to patch things up. Even though Ava decides to put Liam and Nathan's happiness above her own, she's still determined to give them the best Christmas ever, and maybe even hope for a Christmas miracle or two.

Like I said, ridiculous plot. But it does have the rare love triangle with a black guy and two white women LOL. Anyway....

https://iontelevision.com/holiday-movie/rent-an-elf

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qaz1 said:
Here's a new one I haven't seen posted here. We get a channel here called Ion (is that national?). They're running their own Christmas themed movies, and one of them stars the guy from Save the Last Dance (Sean Patrick Thomas).
It's called Rent-an-Elf.

It's your standard Hallmark- or Lifetime-style movie. It has a RIDICULOUS plot. Here's the synopsis:
Type-A personality, Ava, owns “Rent-an-Elf,” a business in which she sets up memorable Christmas for busy families. This year, she's hired by the newly-single Liam and falls for him and his adorable son, Nathan. But, just as Ava thinks she’s found her match, Liam’s ex-wife returns, wanting to patch things up. Even though Ava decides to put Liam and Nathan's happiness above her own, she's still determined to give them the best Christmas ever, and maybe even hope for a Christmas miracle or two.

Like I said, ridiculous plot. But it does have the rare love triangle with a black guy and two white women LOL. Anyway....

https://iontelevision.com/holiday-movie/rent-an-elf

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I get this channel. Looks interesting and yes very rare IR love triangle. Not a fan of love triangles regardless though, but I'll check it out.
 
darkcurry said:
I get this channel. Looks interesting and yes very rare IR love triangle. Not a fan of love triangles regardless though, but I'll check it out.
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This love triangle isn't gonna make you a fan of love triangles lol. But it probably won't make you mad either.
 
qaz1 said:
Yeah, I saw Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. I really liked it.

I wasn't mad that there was no Miles/Gwen romance in it. I really don't see how they would've fit it in.
But I do see how hooking them up in the next movie makes sense. They laid just enough of a foundation IMO.
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They originally wanted the Miles/Gwen romance in it but they wanted the center of attention to be on Miles and his origin story which was a good call because as you said the movie was jammed packed enough without adding another element. But they will dive full on into their romance in Spiderverse 2 and I CAN'T WAIT.
 
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Tsharp99 said:
They originally wanted the Miles/Gwen romance in it but they wanted the center of attention to be on Miles and his origin story which was a good call because as you said the movie was jammed packed enough without adding another element. But they will dive full on into their romance in Spiderverse 2 and I CAN'T WAIT.
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Have you got a link confirming that they wanted to add that romance to this first Spider-Verse movie? It's not that I don't believe you; I do. I just wanna read all about it. Thanks for the share.
 
qaz1 said:
Have you got a link confirming that they wanted to add that romance to this first Spider-Verse movie? It's not that I don't believe you; I do. I just wanna read all about it. Thanks for the share.
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http://collider.com/into-the-spider-verse-2-sequel-story/#poster

The producers and writers confirm
That the 1st film was going to have the romance but they cut it out to favor the sequel that will be a superhero rom-com between Miles and Gwen.
 
Elklodge said:
http://collider.com/into-the-spider-verse-2-sequel-story/#poster

The producers and writers confirm
That the 1st film was going to have the romance but they cut it out to favor the sequel that will be a superhero rom-com between Miles and Gwen.
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Thanks for the link! The film didn't do quite as well as hoped this weekend, but it's off to a solid start. Here's hoping those plans don't change.

I actually can't wait to see it again. I recommend watching in a Dolby theater if you can.
 
qaz1 said:
Thanks for the link! The film didn't do quite as well as hoped this weekend, but it's off to a solid start. Here's hoping those plans don't change.

I actually can't wait to see it again. I recommend watching in a Dolby theater if you can.
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I mean the movie is now the front runner for best animated film, has a rare and mega coveted A+ score from exit polls and is the biggest opening weekend of any animated movie opening in December. It's gonna do super well and play during Christmas, honestly it is outperforming what Sony expected so this is nothing but good news.
 
Elklodge said:
I mean the movie is now the front runner for best animated film, has a rare and mega coveted A+ score from exit polls and is the biggest opening weekend of any animated movie opening in December. It's gonna do super well and play during Christmas, honestly it is outperforming what Sony expected so this is nothing but good news.
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All of that is great news. But I'd heard that projections we're in the $40 million range, and it only hit $35 million. Maybe my info is bad. Either way I loved the movie and want more.

BTW @Elklodge, who's that in your avatar pic? For some reason she's extra distracting today lol
 
I just saw this headline title on Collider.com's official YouTube channel:


http://collider.com/spider-verse-2-miles-morales-spider-gwen-movie-talk/
Today on Collider Movie Talk, Mark Ellis, Perri Nemiroff, and John Rocha discuss the day's hot topics in movie news, including:

- Weekend Box Office
- Spider-Verse Sequel Will Focus on Romance with Miles Morales, Launch Spider-Women
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I have no idea why @darkcurry disagrees with me it's an agenda. I'm for it, but I can admit it's an agenda.
 
ColiBreh1 said:
I just saw this headline title on Collider.com's official YouTube channel:


http://collider.com/spider-verse-2-miles-morales-spider-gwen-movie-talk/


I have no idea why @darkcurry disagrees with me it's an agenda. I'm for it, but I can admit it's an agenda.
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No I do believe it is an agenda. I think studios now want to do it because of course money, but there are those in hollywood that want to actually bring diversity into art. This is one of the most TABOO relationships in at least this country's and London's history. So whatever their agenda is will backfire and the only thing they'll get out of it is the money. Diversity and bm/ww IR is on the rise in art. And we haven't even scratched the surface.
 
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