Do you prefer your man to be tall or short?

Reverie said:
Tell me once more why I should have sympathy for this man that should hit the gym, buy new clothes and take a course in etiquette and perhaps see a therapist too before he makes a move on a woman again?
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I never said you should. I'm just here to see if the responses will be candid or not.

Still......
Women apparently lie to you.....lol
 
Reverie said:
Never met a woman who felt entitled to love. Most of us feel we do not deserve it.



If you are dealing with men, why deal with men under your standard?



This is true and some of them should perhaps sit down with a person who is unreasonable in their standard that perhaps lower the baseline and not be too stern with people are actually quite smart.



And in nine of ten times the person with the entitlement is a man and we have blokes sitting in mama's basement wanting nothing but a supermodel.



Yes, to the ones deserving.
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To be fair, I see many women with exorbitant amounts of entitlement. The whole “can’t find a man”, “can’t find a husband”, “where are all the good men”, wreaks of entitlement. The reality is that no one is entitled to a man/woman, a husband/wife, and if a person can’t find a decent person of the opposite sex, it normally has more to do with them than the entire gender.

So, in the case of this man, I agree, he’s an asshole and that is why he is alone. In regards to women of your generation not feeling worthy, I am inclined to agree. But, TDK and beasty are talking about women of our generation. And they are terribly entitled. Granted, that generally refers to American women, not all, but many.

The points TDK made by reiterating the mantras used by today’s women, tell an interesting story. In this current wave of feminism, many women of all races take various cues from black women. Doing so creates a level of entitlement that a lot of black men have experienced from black women. It is a huge turn off for intelligent black men that realize that entitlement is predatory behavior. This is what I believe TDK and beasty are referring to.

The reality is, some places will like you or appreciate you, others won’t. Some places are full of entitled people, others aren’t. Having traveled a lot in my time, I’ve noticed that certain people feel entitled to their own, but don’t feel entitled to others. So, they will work hard and be on their best behavior for others.

For example, I’ve known white men who were complete assholes to white women, but would be tender and loving to Asian women. I’ve also known plenty of black women who treat black men like shit, but are tender and loving with white men. I’ve also seen it with foreigners of a given country. In Korea the women can get belligerent with their Korean or white boyfriends (it’s called the princess disease). Meanwhile, if they have a black boyfriend they don’t act that way because we tend to be upfront about not liking that shit.

The reality is, with all of the information at our fingertips, everything being so accessible now, and the influence of predatory black women, the world is full of people who feel entitled. If you aren’t one of those people, it becomes very difficult to find like minded people to date.
 
meowkittenmeow said:
To be fair, I see many women with exorbitant amounts of entitlement. The whole “can’t find a man”, “can’t find a husband”, “where are all the good men”, wreaks of entitlement. The reality is that no one is entitled to a man/woman, a husband/wife, and if a person can’t find a decent person of the opposite sex, it normally has more to do with them than the entire gender.
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This is not mantras I hear daily and it can be because I do not live in the US.

meowkittenmeow said:
So, in the case of this man, I agree, he’s an asshole and that is why he is alone. In regards to women of your generation not feeling worthy, I am inclined to agree. But, TDK and beasty are talking about women of our generation. And they are terribly entitled. Granted, that generally refers to American women, not all, but many.
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They have taken after men.

meowkittenmeow said:
The points TDK made by reiterating the mantras used by today’s women, tell an interesting story. In this current wave of feminism, many women of all races take various cues from black women. Doing so creates a level of entitlement that a lot of black men have experienced from black women. It is a huge turn off for intelligent black men that realize that entitlement is predatory behavior. This is what I believe TDK and beasty are referring to.
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I would say many women have taken various cues from men to be able to survive.

meowkittenmeow said:
The reality is, some places will like you or appreciate you, others won’t. Some places are full of entitled people, others aren’t. Having traveled a lot in my time, I’ve noticed that certain people feel entitled to their own, but don’t feel entitled to others. So, they will work hard and be on their best behavior for others.
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This is just bad behavior.

meowkittenmeow said:
For example, I’ve known white men who were complete assholes to white women, but would be tender and loving to Asian women. I’ve also known plenty of black women who treat black men like shit, but are tender and loving with white men. I’ve also seen it with foreigners of a given country. In Korea the women can get belligerent with their Korean or white boyfriends (it’s called the princess disease). Meanwhile, if they have a black boyfriend they don’t act that way because we tend to be upfront about not liking that shit.
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A lot of people are just ugly and that goes for both men and women.

meowkittenmeow said:
The reality is, with all of the information at our fingertips, everything being so accessible now, and the influence of predatory black women, the world is full of people who feel entitled. If you aren’t one of those people, it becomes very difficult to find like minded people to date.
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I don't think black women have anything to do with it. Because every white women I know of doesn't think about black or asian women at all. And are certainly not influenced by them.
 
Reverie said:
This is not mantras I hear daily and it can be because I do not live in the US.



They have taken after men.



I would say many women have taken various cues from men to be able to survive.



This is just bad behavior.



A lot of people are just ugly and that goes for both men and women.



I don't think black women have anything to do with it. Because every white women I know of doesn't think about black or asian women at all. And are certainly not influenced by them.
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I disagree in regards to “taking after men”. I do, however, agree that they take after white men and black women, as made evident in using the same mantras.

In regards to the “white women you know”, I believe based on your generational difference and the fact that you are not American. This discussion is in regards to the current state of America. So, it would make sense that the women you converse with are drastically different. Not to mention, if you are talking to women within your age group, you are referring to a different generation with drastically different values as well.

Long story short, it’s apples and oranges. You are discussing the women of your country and potentially your generation. We are discussing the men and women of our country and generation (the 25 to 38 age group).

The reason why we are discussing that is because the conversation was sparked by an entitled racist oompa loopa looking guy in America. So, I respect your opinion based on your experiences within your country and it seems that many positive values are still intact. The same is not true here for men and women in our age group.

I’d also like to point out that I doubt women have the ability to oppress men in your country. Women, do, however, have the ability to oppress black men in this country. My reason for pointing this out, is that trying to relate our experiences in completely different environments is apples and oranges.
 
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meowkittenmeow said:
I’d also like to point out that I doubt women have the ability to oppress men in your country. Women, do, however, have the ability to oppress black men in this country. My reason for pointing this out, is that trying to relate our experiences in completely different environments is apples and oranges.
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Oppressed men in US.
This is where this entitled little shit comes from. Women say no to him. What do you think that does to a white man that was raised with the thought that he is entitled to everything?

This bloke hit on women way over his league while simultanously ignored women in his own weight class. when they can't get a ten here, they visit a third world country to buy themselves a ten from there. These blokes are a joke and nope, I don't feel sorry for men like that.
 
Reverie said:
Oppressed men in US.
This is where this entitled little shit comes from. Women say no to him. What do you think that does to a white man that was raised with the thought that he is entitled to everything?

This bloke hit on women way over his league while simultanously ignored women in his own weight class. when they can't get a ten here, they visit a third world country to buy themselves a ten from there. These blokes are a joke and nope, I don't feel sorry for men like that.
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You are misreading my statement. I am referring to our experience as black men in America. The subject evolved from the entitled racist white guy, to the issues black men face in dating in America. As I mentioned before, the short white guy feels entitled and is a racist shit. The point we are making is there are plenty of women that are just as bad here in the U.S.

I am not requesting that you feel sorry for him, my statement is in reference to our (TDK, Beasty, me, and other black men) experiences in dealing with the racism, entitlement, and toxic oppressive behavior of certain groups of women in America.

Short version, you are talking about the short racist white guy... we are now talking about dating in America as black men. The point we were trying to make is that women, in America, are often just as entitled, toxic, and racist. Two different things, buddy.

P.S. I would not ask you to feel sorry for yet another entitled white male. I feel the same way about him that I do about entitled black females.
 
K said:
OH geeze the height thing! This guy is a mess! He's crazy, and then he wonders why no women want him. It's cause he's creepy and obnoxious. There are plenty of short, ugly, lame-ass, whatever else, men out there with women. This idea that they are entitled and if women turn them down they are going to act like fools and do this shit....or how about those that go in and start blowing people away because they didn't get the chick they wanted. Oh please! Most people don't get their fantasy person...so what. Get real, move on. I'm so sick of whiny people making excuses for their lame selfs. Maybe he should focus on improving himself and he would have a better chance.
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GAmomlisa said:
I understand what you're saying, but there is a reason the "incel" thing and the "alt right" thing overlap almost perfectly. One feels like theyre entitled to sex, one feels like theyre entitled to our whole country! Entitlement, fear, jealousy, are so integral to both of these movements if u can call them that.
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I see it no different than women who demand romance and love from men they barely know. We're all being sold stuff through media and shaming someone for buying into the message everyone else buys into is a little messed up. It ignores the very real fact we all act entitled to something whether it be time love compassion each other its really widespread and not limited to people we ridicule
 
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