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Beasty said:
People in third world countries are just trying to eat and how do you know that Australia and Sweden ignores their mentally ill like we do? You are ignoring variables.

If John killed 10 people at the same time and Jill killed 10 people in a year who is the worse?

Mass shooting is just one category of homicides. You want to know why Al Capone is the most famous gangster? It's because of the St. Valentine Day Massacre aka "Mass Shooting" that provoked outrage to make even the president to start eyeing him. Other Dons killed like he did but was it better just because they didn't "mass shoot. "

The only difference is that mass shootings cause a bigger emotional effect. You have to look at homicides because I'm not with making decisions off of emotion it's too subjective.

Yes there are mass killings in Europe due to terrorism. Oh I'm not allowed to mention that because they didn't use a gun? Please.

And don't mention Europe and Australia unless you are willing to ban handguns.
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We need stop pretending every mass shooting in the USA occurs from a deranged mind of a 'crazy' person. Owning guns has a way of making rational people make irrational decisions.

The homicide rate in Europe compared to the USA isn't even close. But if you dropped 50 million handguns into every Western European country, they would look like 'murderland' too.

It's just weird how many Americans view owning handguns as a sacred right bestowed upon birth.
We're the most violent country in the world that isn't in the middle of a war and none of it makes sense.
 
andreboba said:
We need stop pretending every mass shooting in the USA occurs from a deranged mind of a 'crazy' person. Owning guns has a way of making rational people make irrational decisions.

The homicide rate in Europe compared to the USA isn't even close. But if you dropped 50 million handguns into every Western European country, they would look like 'murderland' too.

It's just weird how many Americans view owning handguns as a sacred right bestowed upon birth.
We're the most violent country in the world that isn't in the middle of a war and none of it makes sense.
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Saying that guns made them do it is ridiculous. Obviously you don't believe in personal responsibility. I call that weird. The issue isn't even handguns these dudes trying to keep them and ban the guns that are responsible for the least murders.

Mexico and Russia have super strict gun laws why do they have more murders?

Ohh look what I found facts get you some.

https://ourworldindata.org/homicides
 
RicardoCooper said:
I think a lot of this reflexive Trump hate is overblown, especially by black men

The first thing he did was freeze Federal hiring, which meant no more double minority gubmint jobs for you-know-who to lord it over you
The strength and independence of the sacred cow will also be put to the test with WELFARE CUTS, also good for brothers
Several African countries are on the no immigration list, which is good for #ADOS
ICE raids are steady deporting illegals, again, good for #ADOS. Dems in NY on the other hand are trying to give driver's licenses to illegals to replace your black ass at the ballot box

The way I see it, Trump is taking down many of the black man's rivals and enemies. The question is, are we smart enough to benefit?
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C'mon man, you know damn well Trump didn't do any of that shit for black men. If any of those policies benefited brothers it's purely by coincidence. If Trump's betrayals and attacks on members of his own administration (most of whom are fellow white men) coupled with his sky-high turnover rate of staff and advisors are proof of anything, it's that he has no loyalty to anyone. So you can forgive me for not feeling he has my back as a black man, especially since his disdain for black men is well documented.

Immigrants are not my enemies, and illegals committing voter fraud en masse is a darkweb GOP myth. As for deporting a ton of illegals, Obama did a lot of that too and he was demonized for it, so I'm damn sure not gonna give Trump an attaboy.
 
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Beasty said:
Saying that guns made them do it is ridiculous. Obviously you don't believe in personal responsibility. I call that weird. The issue isn't even handguns these dudes trying to keep them and ban the guns that are responsible for the least murders.

Mexico and Russia have super strict gun laws why do they have more murders?

Ohh look what I found facts get you some.

https://ourworldindata.org/homicides
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Guns by design are made to kill people. Let's start there. Personal responsibility is nice, but manufacturing and selling tools designed to kill other human beings needs to be addressed.

Mexico is a narco state overrun by drug cartels. It's like Miami in the 1980s. Russia is run by state supported organized crime syndicates.
Most of their murders are drug related.

And yet the nation that's the leader of the free world has comparable homicide rates. That's totally fucked up and a shame you're comfortable being compared to Mexico and Russia.
 
andreboba said:
Guns by design are made to kill people. Let's start there. Personal responsibility is nice, but manufacturing and selling tools designed to kill other human beings needs to be addressed.

Mexico is a narco state overrun by drug cartels. It's like Miami in the 1980s. Russia is run by state supported organized crime syndicates.
Most of their murders are drug related.

And yet the nation that's the leader of the free world has comparable homicide rates. That's totally fucked up and a shame you're comfortable being compared to Mexico and Russia.
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Ok guns are bad. we have started there. So lets take them from military and police then we can talk. Other wise you think that they are somehow above the rest of us humans, I can't get with that line of thought.

Post facts like I did. Post the source of the murders in the countries you mentioned and compare them to ours then we can talk. Stop being lazy because I recall the USA being the biggest drug market.
 
andreboba said:
Guns by design are made to kill people. Let's start there. Personal responsibility is nice, but manufacturing and selling tools designed to kill other human beings needs to be addressed.

Mexico is a narco state overrun by drug cartels. It's like Miami in the 1980s. Russia is run by state supported organized crime syndicates.
Most of their murders are drug related.

And yet the nation that's the leader of the free world has comparable homicide rates. That's totally fucked up and a shame you're comfortable being compared to Mexico and Russia.
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Where do you think Mexico and Russia are located on Mars? They are human just like us, no shame buddy.
 
Bliss said:
:rolleyes: You do realize that's not a joke, but an official Tweet from Bernie Sanders. o_O
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You I do realize our current POTUS liked to party with a known pedophile??

No one cares that Bloomberg took a pic with Trump. Who exactly is supposed to be offended by that??

Your boy Donald has reset the bar for public outrage. When grabbing pussies no longer was a disqualifier for public office, being seen next to Trump on a golf course is bullshit.
 
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Thump said:
C'mon man, you know damn well Trump didn't do any of that shit for black men. If any of those policies benefited brothers it's purely by coincidence. If Trump's betrayals and attacks on members of his own administration (most of whom are fellow white men) coupled with his sky-high turnover rate of staff and advisors are proof of anything, it's that he has no loyalty to anyone. So you can forgive me for not feeling he has my back as a black man, especially since his disdain for black men is well documented.

Immigrants are not my enemies, and illegals committing voter fraud en masse is a darkweb GOP myth. As for deporting a ton of illegals, Obama did a lot of that too and he was demonized for it, so I'm damn sure not gonna give Trump an attaboy.
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Absolutely correct. The intelligent and non-emotional among us see those unintended consequences as in our favor. Trump doesn't need to "have my back" or be my friend. Look deeper than the antics. Illegal immigration is the focus of this administration and last time I checked, nobody was questioning black people's nationality. I'm for what advantages intelligent black men only, and none of these groups are our friends, even our supposed female counterparts. He is weakening our rivals or knocking them off the chess board altogether, and I'm cool with it.
 
Beasty said:
Ok guns are bad. we have started there. So lets take them from military and police then we can talk. Other wise you think that they are somehow above the rest of us humans, I can't get with that line of thought.

Post facts like I did. Post the source of the murders in the countries you mentioned and compare them to ours then we can talk. Stop being lazy because I recall the USA being the biggest drug market.
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The homicide rate for Mexico in 2019 was 95 deaths per day, way more than either Russia or the USA.

It would take too much time to find out how many of those deaths were gun related, although in Mexico I assume most were.
 
RicardoCooper said:
Absolutely correct. The intelligent and non-emotional among us see those unintended consequences as in our favor. Trump doesn't need to "have my back" or be my friend. Look deeper than the antics. Illegal immigration is the focus of this administration and last time I checked, nobody was questioning black people's nationality. I'm for what advantages intelligent black men only, and none of these groups are our friends, even our supposed female counterparts. He is weakening our rivals or knocking them off the chess board altogether, and I'm cool with it.
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Immigration isn't something you can turn off like a faucet. There's always immigration to the United States and always will be.

As long as Americans keep having babies, immigration shouldn't be seen as some existential threat to the country.
 
andreboba said:
The homicide rate for Mexico in 2019 was 95 deaths per day, way more than either Russia or the USA.

It would take too much time to find out how many of those deaths were gun related, although in Mexico I assume most were.
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You just used the word assume with me?

LOL

You are not in my league buddy. You just proved that. No assumption on my part.

What else do you assume?

Some people believe one day that the stars will fall out of the sky and hit earth. Kid you not. I can prove it.
 
andreboba said:
Immigration isn't something you can turn off like a faucet. There's always immigration to the United States and always will be.

As long as Americans keep having babies, immigration shouldn't be seen as some existential threat to the country.
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Don't get the correlation between babies being born in the US presumably by legal citizens vs. illegal immigration, but go off, king.
 
RicardoCooper said:
We've been shit on since day one, what can they do that hasn't been done to us already?
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If you don't think America can get much worse for Black folk under an autocratic president with absolute rule,you haven't been following history.

Imagine Trump putting Chicago under marshal law with a hard curfew and orders to shoot to kill any Black male on the streets after 10PM??
Dictatorships that happen in democratic counties are a process. They don't happen overnight.

Trump has already decided he personally runs the DOJ and that AG Bill Barr is his personal attorney. That alone should make your sweat cold.
 
Beasty said:
You just used the word assume with me?

LOL

You are not in my league buddy. You just proved that. No assumption on my part.

What else do you assume?

Some people believe one day that the stars will fall out of the sky and hit earth. Kid you not. I can prove it.
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The Mexican drug cartels don't battle with slingshots, thus my assumption most of their 95 homicides a day are gun related.

I don't get how that's a 'gotcha' concept.
 
andreboba said:
If you don't think America can get much worse for Black folk under an autocratic president with absolute rule,you haven't been following history.

Imagine Trump putting Chicago under marshal law with a hard curfew and orders to shoot to kill any Black male on the streets after 10PM??
Dictatorships that happen in democratic counties are a process. They don't happen overnight.

Trump has already decided he personally runs the DOJ and that AG Bill Barr is his personal attorney. That alone should make your sweat cold.
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I've been waiting for him to do just that, clean up the matriarchal Section 8 hellholes. Random unarmed black men have been getting shot down for less for decades, nothing new. You're not really making a case here lol.
 
andreboba said:
The Mexican drug cartels don't battle with slingshots, thus my assumption most of their 95 homicides a day are gun related.

I don't get how that's a 'gotcha' concept.
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Mexico has super strict gun laws so it doesn't make a point for you anyway.
 
Beasty said:
Mexico has super strict gun laws so it doesn't make a point for you anyway.
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Exactly what do 'strict gun laws' mean in a country where drug cartels are paying off cops, judges and politicians??
And I don't know what you mean by strict, Mexico allows EVERY household to own NINE long guns and one handgun.

The drug cartels have more firepower than the national police and it's been like that for at least 20 years.
 
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