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Madeleine said:
They are currently testing chloroquine and hydrochloroquine, another malaria drug. I don’t know about plaquenil. Switzerland isn’t going the chloroquine road though but the Kaletra road for complicated cases. That’s an HIV drug to suppress the virus. There isn’t enough of it (and it’s REALLY expensive) so in preparation they have been asking HIV positive people to kindly switch to a different antiviral drug for the time of the pandemic and hand over Kaletra to the authorities. They aren’t forced to however. If plaquenil is the only thing that helps your son he should really be able to still get it no matter what!
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Plaquenil is hydrochloroquine - name brand.

My son just tried to refill it because he should be able to today and it was blocked. He didn't get the typical notices that you get if you are ordering too early. He's going to try to call tomorrow. But given the reports about how many tablets were sent for trial earlier, I'm betting it's going to be a problem. He has 6 weeks, they are definitely making it quickly and in abundance, just hope there will be enough.
 
Madeleine said:
2/45 is a high mortality rate! Probably a lot of older people in the choir. Are choir practices still allowed over there?
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Most of the states seem to be letting the counties make the decisions about quarantine. That's definitely the case in here in Florida and North Carolina. When south Florida beaches shut down from Miami to Palm beach, people were still hanging out in Clearwater beach in Tampa for spring break (central Florida). About 6 students from the University of Tampa got the virus at that time. Then Central Florida finally shut down and closed everything.

Now they don't seem to be allowing gatherings like choir practice anywhere in the State of Florida. As far as other states it's really hard to tell since most are going by county. The following story is about the Pastor in Tampa FL.

Police arrest Florida pastor for holding church services despite stay-at-home order
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/us/florida-pastor-arrested-river-church/index.html
 
It really depends. I'm in CA and we shut everything down (supposedly) as of the 18th. But there are still a lot of reckless people out there and they aren't taking it seriously enough. I don't think most people have ever seen anyone on a ventilator. Where I'm at people aren't getting pulled over or any of that. It's a weird thing, we are encouraged to go get take out food and groceries, but should stay home too.
 
Beasty said:
Most of the states seem to be letting the counties make the decisions about quarantine. That's definitely the case in here in Florida and North Carolina. When south Florida beaches shut down from Miami to Palm beach, people were still hanging out in Clearwater beach in Tampa for spring break (central Florida). About 6 students from the University of Tampa got the virus at that time. Then Central Florida finally shut down and closed everything.

Now they don't seem to be allowing gatherings like choir practice anywhere in the State of Florida. As far as other states it's really hard to tell since most are going by county. The following story is about the Pastor in Tampa FL.

Police arrest Florida pastor for holding church services despite stay-at-home order
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/us/florida-pastor-arrested-river-church/index.html
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Tell the pastor Rom 13,1 ( Respect governing authorities.)
 
K said:
He can't get it refilled for a bit...maybe a week or so. He's trying every day. No matter what the situation with that news report I mentioned, it's going to be tough because of the demand.

btw- this past week someone I know and was given hydroxychloroquine and antibiotics, not tested for covid 19.
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Really? And sent home with it?
 
K said:
Thank you for your service.

It's a scary thing for sure. There are many people who are still working in situations where they are in close quarters.

So many people are whining about being bored (some were 2 days into the whole thing) yet so many are still working and/or going to school and many of us are working even more than usual because of all this. It's too bad people are bored and upset that their favorite things are closed, but it's really irritating that so many are out there not taking things seriously and putting other people at risk.
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Don’t want to hear any such complaints when docs and nurses are out there putting their lives in danger for them. Medical staff have died in Italy and Spain. People should sit down, stay at home and stop complaining. If they are bored at home they can sew some face masks for their local hospital.
 
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Madeleine said:
Don’t know what 45 calls himself but what I mean is there’s no biblical ground for not respecting state laws, Pastor should know that.
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State laws used to be straight from the bible. Now they are mostly secular and a lot of believers over here want them to go back to being from the bible. Secular laws often conflict with the bible.

To me it sounds like a convenient verse for whoever is in power.
 
Beasty said:
State laws used to be straight from the bible. Now they are mostly secular and a lot of believers over here want them to go back to being from the bible. Secular laws often conflict with the bible.

To me it sounds like a convenient verse for whoever is in power.
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It’s not a convenient verse, except you interpret more into it than what is written. Having respect for laws and governing authorities is a common sense thing every citizen should learn. If we don’t agree with something we still have the option of taking it to court. You were in the army, as far as I understand respect for authority is important there as well, isn’t it. So I don’t see why it’s controversial for the bible to say comply with state authorities. It’s written for exactly such situations like what this pastor was doing in my opinion.
 
K said:
It really depends. I'm in CA and we shut everything down (supposedly) as of the 18th. But there are still a lot of reckless people out there and they aren't taking it seriously enough. I don't think most people have ever seen anyone on a ventilator. Where I'm at people aren't getting pulled over or any of that. It's a weird thing, we are encouraged to go get take out food and groceries, but should stay home too.
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What part of Cali you in? I’m in San Diego & I’ve seen a significant drop in people out and about during the week. The weekends tho people don’t seem to get it since they had to kick people off of beaches and other places. Of course I’m “essential personnel” so I still gotta take my chances going to work.
 
Beasty said:
Man: fallible

God: Infallible

That's a very basic concept. Not sure why you put me in this, I don't believe in the bible. But if I had a book from someone who was infallible and never changed, I don't see how that reconciles with laws from the fallible people.

That's why originally the rulers were the church. Now it's a whole new context. We are secular.

Nothing to read into. It's really basic.
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Lol. I didn’t want to have a long discussion about it either. I just said it as a side comment on this article you referenced about this pastor who refused to shut his church in spite of official lockdown. As a Christian, I didn’t agree with his approach.
 
Madeleine said:
Lol. I didn’t want to have a long discussion about it either. I just said it as a side comment on this article you referenced about this pastor who refused to shut his church in spite of official lockdown. As a Christian, I didn’t agree with his approach.
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I'm ok with discussing it.

I just didn't understand you making an example out of me being formerly in the Navy.

I'm quite ok with these types of discussions.
 
DJG87 said:
What part of Cali you in? I’m in San Diego & I’ve seen a significant drop in people out and about during the week. The weekends tho people don’t seem to get it since they had to kick people off of beaches and other places. Of course I’m “essential personnel” so I still gotta take my chances going to work.
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I'm in the Sacramento area. There's a drop in people but not like when they show the pics of LA and the streets are empty.

Both Trump and Newsom are saying go out and get food to help small businesses (drive through, pick up, delivery) as well as other things.
 
The FDA approved today hydroxychloroquine & chloroquine as treatment for COVID-19 for widespread use:


According to the FDA, anecdotal reports suggest that hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine may offer some benefit for patients in serious condition.
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Sanitizing my hands with this stuff.
It's cheap and it smells good. lol
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