Has Hiphop done more to harm the Black community than good?

thepolice said:
You have a point here but like you've said,most suburban teenagers like rap only cause it's cool now but that has little influence on their lives .I can't say the same about the black kids that listen to it and maybe live in totally different conditions.
There were even some approving posts here about some rappers that glorified cop killers (how typical) and taking justice into you're own hands in their lyrics.
The last thing that rap's preaching is taking responsibility for you're own actions,it's always society or the government who forces ppl into a life of crime and then it's police and justice acting with brutality and being power abusive.
Personal will is always absent in this equation and this induces a dangerous idea into the kids minds - that their life is already chosen for them since they were born and they can't do a damn thing to change it.If they lack strong parent figures also,who can teach them otherwise,they start hanging out with the wrong ppl and the consequences will follow.
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Some good points here.:smt045
 
thepolice said:
You have a point here but like you've said,most suburban teenagers like rap only cause it's cool now but that has little influence on their lives .I can't say the same about the black kids that listen to it and maybe live in totally different conditions.
There were even some approving posts here about some rappers that glorified cop killers (how typical) and taking justice into you're own hands in their lyrics.
The last thing that rap's preaching is taking responsibility for you're own actions,it's always society or the government who forces ppl into a life of crime and then it's police and justice acting with brutality and being power abusive.
Personal will is always absent in this equation and this induces a dangerous idea into the kids minds - that their life is already chosen for them since they were born and they can't do a damn thing to change it.If they lack strong parent figures also,who can teach them otherwise,they start hanging out with the wrong ppl and the consequences will follow.
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You'd be surprised at how many dumb ass impressionable kid's lives are influenced by rappers. Some people I used to be cool with ended up being dumbasses. Look at the hyphy kids. Doing Ecstasy just because Mac Dre did. I don't blame him though. It's not his fault kids are so fucking stupid, especially out here in the suburbs.
 
The black community has had a much greater negative influence on it. It's easy to look at rap and blame it for the ills of the black community.

The black community was fucced up before rap music.Women were disrespected before rap.

Black folks did drugs before rap.

Black folks commited crimes before rap.

The black community was down-trodden and nehative before rap.

But, as Dennis Miller used to say, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
 
Equinox said:
The black community has had a much greater negative influence on it. It's easy to look at rap and blame it for the ills of the black community.

The black community was fucced up before rap music.Women were disrespected before rap.

Black folks did drugs before rap.

Black folks commited crimes before rap.

The black community was down-trodden and nehative before rap.

But, as Dennis Miller used to say, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
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True,but it got more severe when gangsta rap started........
 
Hip Hop taught me how to slang crack. :smt045


I learned about brick prices, triple beams and pitching yola in the third person.
 
RedFox said:
Thats true, isn't it ironic that blood and crips listen to rap music..:confused:
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It's not quite so simple to blame the ills of the black community on ONE thing...unless it's slavery.

Slavery made dark skin blacks resent lighter skin blacks because lighter skinned blacks were sometimes treated better.

Slavery made black men less affectionate towards black women out of fear of loosing her in the slave trade.

There's more, but I won't bet but so deep on this topic.
 
RedFox said:
Thats true, isn't it ironic that blood and crips listen to rap music..:confused:
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But what were they listening to before rap music? Curtis Mayfield, Issac Hayes, Bootsy Collins, The Ojays, etc. Tookie's ass was listing to that stuff. Isn't always the music.

Like Equinox said, it's more than one thing.

"Ain't nuthin' to it, gangsta rap made me do it." :o
 
No it has not. People have a tendecy to blame everything but themselves. Crime will always happen. The music is not at fault. The music is just music. Nothing more. Music does not wanna make you commit crimes, and you are a fool if you think it does.
 
BlackMasterJay said:
The fact that black males make up a larger percentage in prisons than they do in college is a mere fantasy
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Yes, that's right. It's a mere fantasy. Or urban legend, racist mythology, whatever you want to call it. It's not true.

If gangsta rap has a negative impact, do Kanye, Lupe & Common have a positive impact? Does that make them "not" Hip Hop?

Did the golden age of Country Music have the same impact on White people?
 
BlackMasterJay said:
Of course its not, my young friend…..but let me school you a "little bit" on music and its influence on young virgin minds. Musicians(emcees/rappers) are the ambassadors of this influence. If you asked 2000 kids right now to name their favourite heroes, im certain that musicians would make the top of the list..and although many adults such as me and you (I hope)don’t consider the front man of a hip hop group as being a hero ,,, to so many kids ,particularly black kids out there, 50 cent aka Curtis Jackson is exactly that…. Being the main-man of the group "G-Unit" (Gangsta Unit), 50 cent has had an impact on illions of children, selling over 10 million records nationally, and over 2 million in nearly every country around the globe. With such talent and success comes great pride but also responsibility. Mr Jackson should understand this and should, for the sake of the black community, promote colleget ediucation and set an example for many black teens going through academic difficulty...
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There is absolutely no reason children should be listening to 50 cent. I have no doubt that listening to his lyrics would be detrimental to children, but one has to ask...why are the adults around those children allowing them to listen to those lyrics?

I remember going to see Dusk Till Dawn, and there were toddlers in the audience. No doubt seeing that movie damaged them. Is it the movie's fault? Tarrantino's?

If you wouldn't let your kid watch movies about gangsters, you shouldn't let them listen to music about gangstas.

This is common sense. I don't see why adults should have to curtail their entertainment for the sake of the children of irresponsible parents.
 
Darkskinnedmale said:
well, it did make things worst, as we are a naturally violent race already. It just added a little more spice, if you will....
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Naturally violent race? What, is this shit genetic? Were blacks violent in 40 years ago, and before that? Not really.
 
I blame rappers for when they put out shitty music, not because kids are impressionable morons. At the end of the day, it's the choice of the kids, or parents.
 
Darkskinnedmale said:
well, it did make things worst, as we are a naturally violent race already. It just added a little more spice, if you will....
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Spectacularly, staggeringly, inept, asinine and incredibly stupid debut comments here. Fail of biblical proportions. Go away troll.
 
Modern rappers have destroyed hip hop which destroyed the black community. Back in the day, hip hop didn't contain "gangsta" themes or lyrics that had profanity. I bet people were listening then.

I prefer old school rap over modern anytime.
 
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