Racism and double standard of Archie comic books

[SmoothDaddy101]

How can you possibly co-sign? How can any Man pretend to be so certain what any Woman is looking for in on-screen romance? We don't tell you all that much. We know this shit bores you.

Women are like Trekkies when it comes to fictional romance. The producers know we will show up if they give us the barest essentials, so after that point they just do what they want to do.

When All My Children brought out Noah & Julia, the fans went insane. White Women couldn't get enough of Keith Hamilton Cobb's character. They killed him off. Practically right away. There were letter writing campaigns, exclamations of anguish, but nothing. TPTB had spoken.

The exact same thing happened on Andromeda, when the female fans went nuts begging for an IR relationship between Cobb's character and the Blonde female character. Not going to happen. Never. Given that answer, the female fans responded with thousands of pages of fanfic written the way *they* wanted to see the show -- with Beka & Tyr together.

White Women just want to see romance between people with chemistry. They want angst and banter and tenderness, and a little bit of smut here and there. They generally don't care what races are involved. They really don't.

If you guys think White Women are actually sitting around giving a damn what race the leading Man is in any given romance you're nuts. So long as he is hot and seems like he wants to tear the clothes off of the leading lady, they're happy.

This has nothing to do with my preference, and everything to do with Women in general. Not that anyone ever listens to them, or ever will. The money is what's important, and too much of the money isn't interested in onscreen IR.

TPTB are corporate idiots who care about nothing but the big bucks, but yet are clueless when it comes to their so-called demographics and target audiences. Now, we seem to underestimate the thoughts and opinions of our WW friends. We just go by what the bigoted WM-controlled media tells us to think. Just like the poor saps who believe that WM get the finest sistas and BM get the "ugly leftovers".

 

[chicity]

So you don't see a correlation between what a popular publication prints as beautiful and what people go to the theaters to see. If ww didn't agree with that list they'd be as riled up as bm when the media tries to call Precious beautiful.

And exactly what is bm being riled up doing? Has it gotten people to stop calling Precious beautiful? No. Neither does White Women being riled up. Nobody cares.

I've already given examples of White Women being riled up and it not mattering.

Again do me a favor and list ten black hearthrobs from the movie world over the last ten years and to make this hard no Denzel and no Will Smith and i'd like to know which movie they were popular in go!

What on Earth are you talking about? Since when are Black Actors cast as leading Men based upon whether White Women consider them heart throbs? I can list many, many Black Male heartthrobs. Whether they get cast in popular movies or not has nothing to do with whether White Women consider them heartthrobs.

Find me a movie like Twilight, promoted with as much money as Twilight, starring a Black Man that didn't do well. It doesn't exist because, as I've been saying: they don't make those movies.

You're saying White Women don't like something they don't get to try, because they've never tried it. How would anyone know that?

 

[z]

If you guys think White Women are actually sitting around giving a damn what race the leading Man is in any given romance you're nuts. So long as he is hot and seems like he wants to tear the clothes off of the leading lady, they're happy.
This has nothing to do with my preference, and everything to do with Women in general. Not that anyone ever listens to them, or ever will. The money is what's important, and too much of the money isn't interested in onscreen IR.

We live in country called America. Majority defines beauty and control finance and means. The majority is white. And the majority of WW wants to date WM and they want to see a good looking WW coupled with WM on silver screen. Women:white, yellow, brown, heck even black and green cream in their fucken pants for short Tom Cruise, female looking Lenordo Decapachino, Boston rebel Matt damon, former thug Mark Whalberg, Ben Affleck, Brad pitt and spoiled Clooney. I never heard of a time where majority american women creaming in their pants for Denzel or former LA law actor. Even Denzel complained about lack of romance in films once b4.
Chi-no offense, it has to do with your preference and appreciation of BM. This is not BM reality.

 

[chicity]

TPTB are corporate idiots who care about nothing but the big bucks, but yet are clueless when it comes to their so-called demographics and target audiences. Now, we seem to underestimate the thoughts and opinions of our WW friends. We just go by what the bigoted WM-controlled media tells us to think. Just like the poor saps who believe that WM get the finest sistas and BM get the "ugly leftovers".

OMG thank you so much. It's always a relief to know what I'm saying makes any kind of sense, particularly to someone as smart as you.

 

[SmoothDaddy101]

We live in country called America. Majority defines beauty and control finance and means. The majority is white. And the majority of WW wants to date WM and they want to see a good looking WW coupled with WM on silver screen. Women:white, asian,boown, heck even black and green cream in their pants for short Tom Cruise, female looking Lenordo Decapachino, Boston rebel Matt damon, former thug Mark Whalberg, Ben Affleck, Brad pitt and Clooney. I never heard of majority american women creaming in their pants for Denzel or former LA law actor. Even Denzel complained about lack of romance in films once b4.

The establishment never gave the chance for a real Black male hearthrob because its run by bigots. Denzel always declined to do romance scenes.

 

[SmoothDaddy101]

OMG thank you so much. It's always a relief to know what I'm saying makes any kind of sense, particularly to someone as smart as you.

Thanks babe. Too many Black folks are too afraid to step outside the box.

 

[The Dark King]

We live in country called America. Majority defines beauty and control finance and means. The majority is white. And the majority of WW wants to date WM and they want to see a good looking WW coupled with WM on silver screen. Women:white, yellow, brown, heck even black and green cream in their fucken pants for short Tom Cruise, female looking Lenordo Decapachino, Boston rebel Matt damon, former thug Mark Whalberg, Ben Affleck, Brad pitt and spoiled Clooney. I never heard of a time where majority american women creaming in their pants for Denzel or former LA law actor. Even Denzel complained about lack of romance in films once b4.
Chi-no offense, it has to do with your preference and appreciation of BM. This is not BM reality.

Instead of retyping just apply chi's last comment to you fam lol.

 

[z]

The establishment never gave the chance for a real Black male hearthrob because its run by bigots. Denzel always declined to do romance scenes.

I seem to recall Denzel saying once he would like to do a romantic comedy. One of the few romantic comedy he did, got coupled with Whitney Houston in preachers wife. How come they did not couple him with Julia Roberts in Pelican brief?
Heart throb = WM. Let us not get it twisted.

 

[chicity]

We live in country called America. Majority defines beauty and control finance and means. The majority is white. And the majority of WW wants to date WM and they want to see a good looking WW coupled with WM on silver screen.

See, nope, you misunderstand Women. The first part of your sentence does not follow into the second.

Yes, the majority of White Women date WM. That does not mean they want to see WW with WM onscreen. That is completely not the way the female brain works.

Hell, we were just talking about Vampire movies. WW are happy to see WW paired with guys who look like they've been dead for a few hundred years. They don't have to be human. They certainly don't have to be White.

In fact, many -- many -- WW who would never date IR would love to see it onscreen precisely because it isn't something they've tried. They want to be the girl they haven't been before. This is fantasy, not reality. Desire, not practicality. They don't have to introduce the leading man to their parents & boss, they can just lean back and imagine kissing him.

I would stake great quantities of money on the wager that they do not need that kiss to involve two White people.

Women:white, asian,boown, heck even black and green cream in their pants for short Tom Cruise, female looking Lenordo Decapachino, Boston rebel Matt damon, former thug Mark Whalberg, Ben Affleck, Brad pitt and Clooney. I never heard of majority american women creaming in their pants for Denzel or former LA law actor. Even Denzel complained about lack of romance in films once b4.

Yeah, but he won't kiss a White girl, so what do you expect?

All of the actors you mention are marketed heavily to White Women. Denzel is never portrayed as lusting after a White Woman he's deeply in love with.

It is extremely easy to find White Women lusting after Black Heartthrobs on the internet. Nearly all of Cobb's fanbase is White female. Nearly all of Taye Diggs' fanbase is White female. Nearly all of Blair Underwood's fanbase is White female.

Again, you are suggesting White Women don't like something because it hasn't been given to them.

 

[The Dark King]

OMG thank you so much. It's always a relief to know what I'm saying makes any kind of sense, particularly to someone as smart as you.

Omg you're so liberal sometimes it hurts Chi lol.
Time and time again we see that people are usually attracted to people of their own race its not a big mystery. Should skin color matter absolutely not but it does and trust me no matter how bigoted any industry wants to be they care about money far more. Sports is a great indication of that. Most owners being as old as they are would probably love to see all white if not majority white teams again but unless you own a hockey team that's not gonna happen.

 

[SmoothDaddy101]

I seem to recall Denzel saying once he would like to do a romantic comedy. One of the few romantic comedy he did got coupled with Whithney Houston in preachers wife. How come they did not couple him with Julia Roberts in Pelican brief?
Heart throb = WM. Let us not get it twisted.

I should have clarified myself: Romantic films that emphasize on love scenes. Meaning the two parties involved are getting heated.

Like I said, the bigoted establishment never pushed the idea of a BM heart throb who would appeal to ALL women. The so-called black filmmakers are too scared shitless to try such an idea.

 

[chicity]

I seem to recall Denzel saying once he would like to do a romantic comedy. One of the few romantic comedy he did got coupled with Whithney Houston in preachers wife. How come they did not couple him with Julia Roberts in Pelican brief?
Heart throb = WM. Let us not get it twisted.

They didn't couple him with Julia Roberts in Pelican Brief because he said he would not do it. He refused to do IR for fear of offending his fanbase.

Preacher's Wife was never marketed to White Women, and didn't even play in many theaters in White neighborhoods. Also, I heard it wasn't very good.

Heart throb = WM, true. Your mistake is in think this is because that's how White Women want it, or that they have any voice in the matter.

 

[z]

Omg you're so liberal sometimes it hurts Chi lol.
Time and time again we see that people are usually attracted to people of their own race its not a big mystery. Should skin color matter absolutely not but it does and trust me no matter how bigoted any industry wants to be they care about money far more. Sports is a great indication of that. Most owners being as old as they are would probably love to see all white if not majority white teams again but unless you own a hockey team that's not gonna happen.

Thank you.

 

[The Dark King]

See, nope, you misunderstand Women. The first part of your sentence does not follow into the second.

Yes, the majority of White Women date WM. That does not mean they want to see WW with WM onscreen. That is completely not the way the female brain works.

Hell, we were just talking about Vampire movies. WW are happy to see WW paired with guys who look like they've been dead for a few hundred years. They don't have to be human. They certainly don't have to be White.

In fact, many -- many -- WW who would never date IR would love to see it onscreen precisely because it isn't something they've tried. They want to be the girl they haven't been before. This is fantasy, not reality. Desire, not practicality. They don't have to introduce the leading man to their parents & boss, they can just lean back and imagine kissing him.

I would stake great quantities of money on the wager that they do not need that kiss to involve two White people.



Yeah, but he won't kiss a White girl, so what do you expect?

All of the actors you mention are marketed heavily to White Women. Denzel is never portrayed as lusting after a White Woman he's deeply in love with.

It is extremely easy to find White Women lusting after Black Heartthrobs on the internet. Nearly all of Cobb's fanbase is White female. Nearly all of Taye Diggs' fanbase is White female. Nearly all of Blair Underwood's fanbase is White female.

Again, you are suggesting White Women don't like something because it hasn't been given to them.

Again I have to back up UnChosen on this one. None of those guys listed could carry a romantic movie the way george clooney or brad pitt could. I guarantee you Brown Sugar did not gross anything close to a romantic movie with a white male lead. Stop acting like fantasy has nothing to do with wanting to believe you can have something similar to what you're seeing.

 

[chicity]

Omg you're so liberal sometimes it hurts Chi lol.
Time and time again we see that people are usually attracted to people of their own race its not a big mystery. Should skin color matter absolutely not but it does and trust me no matter how bigoted any industry wants to be they care about money far more. Sports is a great indication of that. Most owners being as old as they are would probably love to see all white if not majority white teams again but unless you own a hockey team that's not gonna happen.

I have already explained the money. Let me try this again:

If you give Women a movie with a decent romance, White Women will go see it.

Kinda like, if you make a Star Trek movie, trekkies will go see it.

It doesn't matter who you put in those roles. The producers know that they do not need to put IR in the film in order to get White Women to buy tickets.

So why bother? The advertisers who really pay for these films don't want IR. The producers who greenlight the film in the first place don't want IR. The media moguls who promote the film don't want IR.

How many movie companies are owned by Disney? What kind of racial history does Disney have? (clue: not a good one).

But just because White Women are not boycotting films because of their lack of IR, does not mean they would not like to see IR onscreen.

Meanwhile, most WM actively do not want to see WW with BM onscreen. And BW raise holy hell every time it happens.

So what is the benefit to casting a romance with IR? There isn't any, besides actually producing something that WW might like more. But there's no tangible reason for anyone to care about that. So they don't.

 

[z]

Like I said, the bigoted establishment never pushed the idea of a BM heart throb who would appeal to ALL women. The so-called black filmmakers are too scared shitless to try such an idea.

who runs Hollywood? I seem to recall they were an oppressed ppl once. But it is all about the Biz. They have research dept who does research, they have marketing expert; and to certain degree they know what the majority wants and they push out those products.

 

[chicity]

Again I have to back up UnChosen on this one. None of those guys listed could carry a romantic movie the way george clooney or brad pitt could.

Bullshit.

I guarantee you Brown Sugar did not gross anything close to a romantic movie with a white male lead.

Brown Sugar was not marketed to White Women. How do you miss that?

Stop acting like fantasy has nothing to do with wanting to believe you can have something similar to what you're seeing.

So all you guys would just love to stick your unwrapped dicks in a porn star? Because pretty much all guys watch porn involving unsafe sex. But how many of you want to actually have unsafe sex with a porn star? None of you? I thought so.

 

[SmoothDaddy101]

who runs Hollywood? I seem to recall they were an oppressed ppl once. But it is all about the Biz. They have research dept who does research, they have marketing expert; and to certain degree they know what the majority wants and they push out those products.

Trust me, it's not as honest as you think it is. They have their inside men.

BTW Denzel's career was mostly him being too afraid that he would offend BW and racist WM. Thus him being the safe negro.

 

[The Dark King]

I have already explained the money. Let me try this again:

If you give Women a movie with a decent romance, White Women will go see it.

Kinda like, if you make a Star Trek movie, trekkies will go see it.

It doesn't matter who you put in those roles. The producers know that they do not need to put IR in the film in order to get White Women to buy tickets.

So why bother? The advertisers who really pay for these films don't want IR. The producers who greenlight the film in the first place don't want IR. The media moguls who promote the film don't want IR.

How many movie companies are owned by Disney? What kind of racial history does Disney have? (clue: not a good one).

But just because White Women are not boycotting films because of their lack of IR, does not mean they would not like to see IR onscreen.

Meanwhile, most WM actively do not want to see WW with BM onscreen. And BW raise holy hell every time it happens.

So what is the benefit to casting a romance with IR? There isn't any, besides actually producing something that WW might like more. But there's no tangible reason for anyone to care about that. So they don't.

Ok I can see your position a lot better here

 

[SmoothDaddy101]

Again I have to back up UnChosen on this one. None of those guys listed could carry a romantic movie the way george clooney or brad pitt could. I guarantee you Brown Sugar did not gross anything close to a romantic movie with a white male lead. Stop acting like fantasy has nothing to do with wanting to believe you can have something similar to what you're seeing.

Andrae, you amaze me more and more each day. :smt043