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Britty25 said:
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This is my kind of lyricist. I've switched to underground white boys for my hearing pleasures. The song starts 1:10 minutes in.
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andrae09 said:
Ma I'm an accountant I can say I know I'm better than him. He just had a fast flow no content not hot punchlines.
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i agree, that wasn't impressive. no lines, and the flow wasn't even tight, just fast. (and not even fast in comparison to bone or twista) besides, it's 2010... why are white dudes still cryin about gettin no respect on the mic? are you serious? if you get no respect on a mic now a days, it's cause nobody likes to listen to you. period.
 
AdventurSum said:
i agree, that wasn't impressive. no lines, and the flow wasn't even tight, just fast. (and not even fast in comparison to bone or twista) besides, it's 2010... why are white dudes still cryin about gettin no respect on the mic? are you serious? if you get no respect on a mic now a days, it's cause nobody likes to listen to you. period.
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Especially now. I am convinced that Eminem was just a rare thing because in over ten years no body else made it past one album. Not saying white dudes can't rap but.....
 
Britty25 said:
Why do people like Jay-Z?
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jay-z can rap. so let me just get that out of the way before i continue. he is a legitimate rapper. but... personally i don't think he is amazing. he has some cuts i can vibe with but overall i dont see him as this supreme artist that a ton of other people do.

why do people like jay-z?... because they think they are supposed to. he's major crossover, is big time business, and ran the radio/clubs for many years. so it's "hip" to be a jigga fan. anyone who likes him can easily like 10 other rappers. but most non-rap fans just don't bother to look deeper into the genre.
 
AdventurSum said:
jay-z can rap. so let me just get that out of the way before i continue. he is a legitimate rapper. but... personally i don't think he is amazing. he has some cuts i can vibe with but overall i dont see him as this supreme artist that a ton of other people do.

why do people like jay-z?... because they think they are supposed to. he's major crossover, is big time business, and ran the radio/clubs for many years. so it's "hip" to be a jigga fan. anyone who likes him can easily like 10 other rappers. but most non-rap fans just don't bother to look deeper into the genre.
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Wow and you're from the East coast fam? Who would you say currently is of the same caliber keep in mind Jay-Z is about as commercially successful as you can get but is still capable of deep tracks and battle tracks.
 
andrae09 said:
Especially now. I am convinced that Eminem was just a rare thing because in over ten years no body else made it past one album. Not saying white dudes can't rap but.....
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yea but even em... he is a product of commercialism. he probably wouldnt have made it past the slim shady LP if it wasnt for being backed by dre, having a budget to cut several videos, and was plastered all over magazines. good for him tho, he took that opportunity and ran with it. he just whines too much. and who really cares about his "issues." lol
 
andrae09 said:
Wow and you're from the East coast fam? Who would you say currently is of the same caliber keep in mind Jay-Z is about as commercially successful as you can get but is still capable of deep tracks and battle tracks.
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wow is right. what could location possibly have to do with anything. is the reason you are soooo gung ho about izzo because he is a new yorker? now my previous statement wasnt suggesting that is your reason, but it sure sounds like a bunch of other people i hear out here.

and who is the same caliber as jay-z? fuck if i know. the game sucks right now. i know on str8 spittin i am feelin black thought and maybe even jay electronica. (although i think jay-e needs to improve his song making skills)
 
AdventurSum said:
wow is right. what could location possibly have to do with anything. is the reason you are soooo gung ho about izzo because he is a new yorker? now my previous statement wasnt suggesting that is your reason, but it sure sounds like a bunch of other people i hear out here.

and who is the same caliber as jay-z? fuck if i know. the game sucks right now. i know on str8 spittin i am feelin black thought and maybe even jay electronica. (although i think jay-e needs to improve his song making skills)
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Him being from NY does help I can't front because I relate to a lot of what he says. How old are you fam?
 
andrae09 said:
Wow and you're from the East coast fam? Who would you say currently is of the same caliber keep in mind Jay-Z is about as commercially successful as you can get but is still capable of deep tracks and battle tracks.
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Commercially he's got people beat with the exception of Eminem

Rappers better than Jay-Z: Nas, Rakim, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Common, Lupe Fiasco(he's on his comeup), Pharaoh Monch, and many more
 
Raul Sinclair said:
Commercially he's got people beat with the exception of Eminem

Rappers better than Jay-Z: Nas, Rakim, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Common, Lupe Fiasco(he's on his comeup), Pharaoh Monch, and many more
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Commercially he's better than Em. Em never has the clubs bumping the way Jay does and while I like the rappers you mentioned they're very one dimensional and completely out of touch. They do speak truth but sometimes id rather forget about my problem. If I can't sing a long from time to time.
 
This dude is quickly becoming one of my favorite newer rappers.
First heard him on Immortal Technique's "Peruvian Cocaine", and he stood out the most. Here's a rapper that raps fast, but he was content. He was the fastest rapper in the world at one time, but luckily you can understand what he's saying for the most part. My favorite line from this track,

"I scope the scene, and I'm watchin' these bills build up
I'm nice with a day job, these niggas write all day and still suck."


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Britty25 said:
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This is my kind of lyricist. I've switched to underground white boys for my hearing pleasures. The song starts 1:10 minutes in.
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He was alright. Like andrea said, fast flow, no content. He threw some similes in their, but they weren't that clever(Represent the west like Eazy, Crazy muthaphuka, like Tech N9ne), and there were no metaphors I could pick up on. Maybe a few multis, but I was looking more for clever punchlines than multisyllabic rhymes.
 
andrae09 said:
Commercially he's better than Em. Em never has the clubs bumping the way Jay does and while I like the rappers you mentioned they're very one dimensional and completely out of touch. They do speak truth but sometimes id rather forget about my problem. If I can't sing a long from time to time.
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Thats not his Em's style. believe me if he wanted to club music he would. But thats the beauty of Em, he doesn't need to do club hits. He did that track with Akon "Smack that" but he doesn't have to go on people's songs also. You ever notice Eminem rarely did collaborations for released commercial singles. The man can SELL records with ease and not have to go the sellout route. Jay-Z acknowledged it when he said, "The only dudes moving units are Em, Pimp Juice(Nelly), and us.

Unfortunately thats how many people feel about the real rappers. My boy told me I don't like Mos Def. All he talks about are people's troubles loll. I just want to get away from that, I have my own shit lol
 
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Raul Sinclair said:
Thats not his Em's style. believe me if he wanted to club music he would. But thats the beauty of Em, he doesn't need to do club hits. He did that track with Akon "Smack that" but he doesn't have to go on people's songs also. You ever notice Eminem rarely did collaborations for released commercial singles. The man can SELL records with ease and not have to go the sellout route. Jay-Z acknowledged it when he said, "The only dudes moving units, are me, Em, and Pimp Juice(Nelly).

Unfortunately thats how many people feel about the real rappers. My boy told me I don't like Mos Def. All he talks about are people's troubles loll. I just want to get away from that, I have my own shit lol
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HA!!! I was just about to bring up that "Smack That" track. I swear, when I first heard that track, I said I was done with Em, forever, but here I am crawling back for the Recovery album, which had no club tracks(Neither did Relapse, thank god).
 
Raul Sinclair said:
Thats not his Em's style. believe me if he wanted to club music he would. But thats the beauty of Em, he doesn't need to do club hits. He did that track with Akon "Smack that" but he doesn't have to go on people's songs also. You ever notice Eminem rarely did collaborations for released commercial singles. The man can SELL records with ease and not have to go the sellout route. Jay-Z acknowledged it when he said, "The only dudes moving units, are me, Em, and Pimp Juice(Nelly).

Unfortunately thats how many people feel about the real rappers. My boy told me I don't like Mos Def. All he talks about are people's troubles loll. I just want to get away from that, I have my own shit lol
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1. Em sells a lot of units more because he's white more so than anything else. Don't get me wrong he's in my top five deal or alive but his commercial success more to do with his skin tone. He even said if he were black he would have sold half.

2. Your boy is right. This isn't the 80s or early 90s we have so many media outlets that put us on to what's happening in the world. I don't need to be reminded why I'm trying to be entertained.
 
Britty25 said:
Give me an example of his beast lyricistness.
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The power or the P.U.S.S.Y., that's why every mothafucka in this world dress fly
every baller that can afford it try to get the best ride, for the power of the P.U.S.S.Y.

Tell me this is not fantastic, lol! :smt042
 
I just like rappers that don't sound like droning monotone robots. :)
Ones who rap with conviction and emotion. The bestest of which was Tupac. :smt003
 
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