Quick question for black guys.

****************]Damn fam you need a hug and you need to heal for real. Most of us here have had bad experiences with women period.[/COLOR] Based on past experiences living in NY most women(if they're attractive and know it) are stuck up wanna be princesses but as I get older I'm beginning to see that's my bullshit circle. Change circle homie. Even if you have no desire to date black women it'll be good to let go of the anger.
No that pretty much sums up every woman I've met from NY.
 
Yeah I am new here, but the above was just silly. Preference, with regards to who you are attracted to is one thing, what you wrote above is personal and aggressive. If you truly want to understand why black women specifically and the black community in general is the way we are it is because of poor, pathetic, sorry tired lame as black MALE leadership. We leave them to head our homes and our community. We degrade them in our community, mannerisms, and speech.

Black women out earn us
They are more educated than us
They are the strength that we so lack.

...and then weak cats like yourself stand back and act is if the problem is with them and THEIR choices.

Nahh hommie the blame lies with us.

Now who you love, and are attracted to is your choice, but putting down your own, to justify that choice is weak.....real weak.

Just my two cents on it.


Can I add that I have been looking around the site and the ones dissin' black women are the males...and the ones defending them are the women. If you have to justified your attraction something deeper is going on.

100% yes.
 
Black women do not out earn us

The Wage Gap Exists Within Racial/Ethnic Groups

White men are not the only group that out-earns women, although the wage gap is largest between white men and white women. Within other groups, such as African Americans, Latinos, and Asian/Pacific Islanders, men earn more than women. White women earned 73.4% of what white men earned in 2001; in the same year, black women earned 84.8% of what black men earned.)(Source: U.S. Census Bureau).

It may take a couple of years for the 2010 census to release the new findings but, with the middle class taking a 5 percent drop for the last nine years in income while poorer people stayed at the same income level. Black men may still out earn black women.

Meizhu Lui, the director of the Closing the Wealth Gap Initiative at the Insight Center for Community Economic Development, reported the following:
that single black women in the US have median wealth of only $100.

This fact contradicts with data that shows that for the last three decades, black women have had greater income, educational and professional gains (the study shows that despite all that, single black men have a median wealth of $7,900, compared with the $100 median figure for single black women). Today, Single black women have less than 1 percent of the median net worth of black men.
 
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The Wage Gap Exists Within Racial/Ethnic Groups

White men are not the only group that out-earns women, although the wage gap is largest between white men and white women. Within other groups, such as African Americans, Latinos, and Asian/Pacific Islanders, men earn more than women. White women earned 73.4% of what white men earned in 2001; in the same year, black women earned 84.8% of what black men earned.)(Source: U.S. Census Bureau).

It may take a couple of years for the 2010 census to release the new findings but, with the middle class taking a 5 percent drop for the last nine years in income while poorer people stayed at the same income level. Black men may still out earn black women.

Meizhu Lui, the director of the Closing the Wealth Gap Initiative at the Insight Center for Community Economic Development, reported the following:
that single black women in the US have median wealth of only $100.

This fact contradicts with data that shows that for the last three decades, black women have had greater income, educational and professional gains (the study shows that despite all that, single black men have a median wealth of $7,900, compared with the $100 median figure for single black women). Today, Single black women have less than 1 percent of the median net worth of black men.

I stand corrected, I bow down to your cut and paste skillz. My original home is KY, where are you from?
 
I stand corrected, I bow down to your cut and paste skillz. My original home is KY, where are you from?

where, in KY, did you grow up? I was born in Frankfort, went to college in eastern KY. I lived in western KY before moving to MI. You have piqued my curiosity...:smt045
 
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I stand corrected, I bow down to your cut and paste skillz. My original home is KY, where are you from?

where, in KY, did you grow up? I was born in Frankfort, went to college in eastern KY. I lived in western KY before moving to MI. You have piqued my curiosity...:smt045

Born in Louisville lived there until 2nd grade, moved to the suburbs outside of the East End area. Spent a lot of time in the West End area.
 
Yeah I am new here, but the above was just silly. Preference, with regards to who you are attracted to is one thing, what you wrote above is personal and aggressive. If you truly want to understand why black women specifically and the black community in general is the way we are it is because of poor, pathetic, sorry tired lame as black MALE leadership. We leave them to head our homes and our community. We degrade them in our community, mannerisms, and speech.

Black women out earn us
They are more educated than us
They are the strength that we so lack.


...and then weak cats like yourself stand back and act is if the problem is with them and THEIR choices.

Nahh hommie the blame lies with us.

Now who you love, and are attracted to is your choice, but putting down your own, to justify that choice is weak.....real weak.

Just my two cents on it.


Can I add that I have been looking around the site and the ones dissin' black women are the males...and the ones defending them are the women. If you have to justified your attraction something deeper is going on.


:?

Speak for yourself.
 
One of the hardest parts of being a black man is having to deal with all of the negativity which leads to self fulfilled prophecies. If you want yourself and other black men to continue to fail this mentality will surely get you there or should I say keep you there.

Black women out earn us, as I pointed out above is still not true and in actual wealth they are well behind and I will address that more later.

They are more educated than us, they certainly have more formal education but,WW are increasingly more educated than WM who are still in the workforce. In addition formal education does not equate with intelligence, common sense, ability nor even actual achievement. And I will address that later as well.

They are the strength that we so lack, that is perhaps the most depressing belief in the black community, first of all it does not recognize that women of ethnic groups are the strength of their family, community and even nation (including white women) all men are 'lacking' in strength compared to women (even white men) I grew up in a predominately white environment and have seen many white women hold 'it' together. White women for some reason don't pat themselves on the back, nor write books about how great they are.

Second, of all I think it is dangerous to paint black women as strong, because black women are human, they hurt just like everyone else and they need love,charity and compassion just like everyone else. I have a natural inclination to stand up for the vulnerable, however if someone appears invulnerable I will not bother to reach out to them. I think others often react the same.
 
where, in KY, did you grow up? I was born in Frankfort, went to college in eastern KY. I lived in western KY before moving to MI. You have piqued my curiosity...:smt045
I am actually from Louisville, born and raised.

I havn't LIVED there since 1991 but it still my home town.
 
One of the hardest parts of being a black man is having to deal with all of the negativity which leads to self fulfilled prophecies. If you want yourself and other black men to continue to fail this mentality will surely get you there or should I say keep you there.

Black women out earn us, as I pointed out above is still not true and in actual wealth they are well behind and I will address that more later.

They are more educated than us, they certainly have more formal education but,WW are increasingly more educated than WM who are still in the workforce. In addition formal education does not equate with intelligence, common sense, ability nor even actual achievement. And I will address that later as well.

They are the strength that we so lack, that is perhaps the most depressing belief in the black community, first of all it does not recognize that women of ethnic groups are the strength of their family, community and even nation (including white women) all men are 'lacking' in strength compared to women (even white men) I grew up in a predominately white environment and have seen many white women hold 'it' together. White women for some reason don't pat themselves on the back, nor write books about how great they are.

Second, of all I think it is dangerous to paint black women as strong, because black women are human, they hurt just like everyone else and they need love,charity and compassion just like everyone else. I have a natural inclination to stand up for the vulnerable, however if someone appears invulnerable I will not bother to reach out to them. I think others often react the same.



You strike me an intelligent cat and I was hoping you were going to present a better argument other than "but look at white people" when speaking about African/Black American males. Perhaps part of the problem is that we have not set standards for ourselves.

The fact of the matter is that we have failed (black males) by virtually ever measurable means. Our community, our homes, our children and looking outwardly and saying "We aren't the only ones" does not mitigate this failure.
 
You strike me an intelligent cat and I was hoping you were going to present a better argument other than "but look at white people" when speaking about African/Black American males. Perhaps part of the problem is that we have not set standards for ourselves.

The fact of the matter is that we have failed (black males) by virtually ever measurable means. Our community, our homes, our children and looking outwardly and saying "We aren't the only ones" does not mitigate this failure.

I agree fam. Way too much finger pointing and not enough problem solving. I always use immigrants as the litmus test. If people from other countries who have the same skin tone as us but who have to struggle culturally because they're foreigners can be upwardly mobile then why can't more of us.
 
Pay no attention to the anti-black agenda of some posters here. Every thing you said is absolutely true. Others may offer their opinions, but they neither negate, dispell, or invalidate a single word you said. This is coming from a well educated and highly intelligent African-American Man.
 
Pay no attention to the anti-black agenda of some posters here. Every thing you said is absolutely true. Others may offer their opinions, but they neither negate, dispell, or invalidate a single word you said. This is coming from a well educated and highly intelligent African-American Man.

I am not here to question any one' intelligence; that being said, "but look at white people" can't on any level be considered a serious retort.

I for one as proud of who and what I am and I harbor no "anti-black" agenda, but if we don't take a serious look at our failures and acknowledge those failures then we simply aren't being honest to ourselves.s

anti-black? Com on man. Are you serious? Maybe there is a history on this site that I don't know about, but Anti-black I am most certainly not.
 
I agree fam. Way too much finger pointing and not enough problem solving. I always use immigrants as the litmus test. If people from other countries who have the same skin tone as us but who have to struggle culturally because they're foreigners can be upwardly mobile then why can't more of us.

I say we squandered that which was fought for us by those greater than us.
 
I am not here to question any one' intelligence; that being said, "but look at white people" can't on any level be considered a serious retort.

I for one as proud of who and what I am and I harbor no "anti-black" agenda, but if we don't take a serious look at our failures and acknowledge those failures then we simply aren't being honest to ourselves.s

anti-black? Com on man. Are you serious? Maybe there is a history on this site that I don't know about, but Anti-black I am most certainly not.

It is just Anten7. lol

Addressing your comments, the problems are local. If people don't want to locally solve it then it isn't going to work.

This is going to get ugly because of your attempt to oversimplify this and place black men in one box.

I am going to enjoy reading though.
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Your interpretation of botoan's post is an oversimplification at best. At worst, it's just plain wrong. What is it? You didn't like how pro African-American Male he was being? There was nothing inaccurate - per se, about his post; and yet you took a counter position.
 
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