I never knew White Women felt this way..

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It's really sad when trolls have nothing else going in their lives except coming back here after they've been banned at least once to try to cause more problems. :roll:
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he/she just seems confused.... or maybe I'm confused by OTR's sentence structure.
 
One to Remember said:
thank you kuno lol its easier when your typing paragraphs with 1 finger to ust type what u think the checker will catch but i forgot to correct them lol i knew i had not done something :-x

anyways here we go


Not very broad. Plenty of categories, i left room for you to add a few too. But I feel the categories were dead on and even if you don't like them thats how I divided the WW who date BM not WW period. I can only go by their actions.
And I know White women, I know White boys, I know the White man, I live in Tennessee where it is more then 90 percent white I've known White people my whole life, I've been treated as a nigger, a human, a fellow white, a non-nigger, and I've gotten the "your one of the few of y'all i trust" speech more times then i can count. Don't get defensive because I have divided white women into several factions and with varying calibers of jungle fever.

Obviously when you have a group of women who have options withen their own race and then a second race and then a third and so on there always leads to friction and kind of an imbalance. I don't blame the white woman for this. Whatever you are you should never be ashamed of yourself.

Even when their is not prejudice interracial dating is kinda hard because sticking to your own is somewhat the natural order or at least a default i guess. So when the White women come through our communities and pick up our men with ease that creates animosity. the work that the Black woman has to put in to getting her Black man and then trying to keep him on the strait path is automatically undermined.
Black women react because of hatred/racism, fear, jealousy, competitiveness territorialism, and the entire gambit.

Black men have this same issue because lots of White women like them, Latinos, a few Asians, a few Arabs. WW and BM may be the two groups with the highest rate of cross over appeal. It is a unique common ground.

Like I said before I believe and agree with you there are more BW hating on WW just to be haters then vice versa. But I also believe a sizable minority of WW just don't like BW for the reasons I stated in my first post.

I would like a discussion about the issue rather then you all to rule out its existence or blast the OP for being a mixed person which is irrelevant.


Just an over appreciation of Black culture, a lot of trying to hard. I feel like the WW does fear the BW sometimes. Sometimes they seem intimidated or overwhelmed. Sometimes I'll ask a White girl about some Black girl and what she thinks about her and I feel shes afraid or reluctant to criticize the Black girl. The cattiness she extends to the White girls is muted. Why I am no instigator I am a bit attracted to the cattiness and feistiness.

It was a bad call to make that joke..

A plethora? Those are 3 girls.. I aint just been with 3 girls period.. I argue with these 2 white girls I absolutely loved and it never reached that point. The problem in my community is there are no deep interracial relations. Even if you do associate with other races at some point you always return to segregation. And then you have entire herds of individuals whos only exposure to Black people is through the rap they blast and the hip hop clothing they wear. A thin veil of camaraderie. Their need to be cool or hip is what brought them closer to the Black community and they hoped to maintain an image or persona. Thats probably why those White girls went all Jim Crow Jessica on me and I was kinda caught of guard by 2 of them.

The first girl that threatened to lynch me and my friend I can not recall why we fought. I think one day I called her on her shadiness and confronted her abut things others had said and it went from there. She said she was pregnant I said I never banged her she lost all her composure from there and reminded me just where she came from in Tennessee..

The one that was pregnant by a Mexican now, she got online one day i think we were arguing over her being a smart ass or something and we just started sparring and she dropped the n bomb. I have that yahoo fight archived.

The third and worst incident was the younger gal. we werent an item but shed talk to me for hours everyday. and shed tell me to drive up there to meet her atthe mall and I'd say I wanna to come to her hoise and she'd say her grandma would have a fit so i said whatever. I call her one day and her friend answers and says shes in the basement hooking up and shes been down there for 2 hours. I question her, she fronts, then admits it, then tries to quote laws to defend it then i show her loop holes then she makes up a new defense then i say how is he getting in your then, she gets angry and it escalates from there for a week or two. she txts "go pick yo cotton" i have my other friend (ironically a wigger-type from a far more racially polarized county) call her up. They argue. She calls me, I refused to answer and she leaves some voice saying "just like a fucking nigger to not pick up the phone" and some other shit. She sounded just like one of those girls from Laguna Beach/the Hills. It was insane. I have that recorded on my computer still.


My point thee was even if she is mixed, unless we know what she looks like, youall can't go ham on her because shes not a WW. If she looks like a WW perhaps she has the right to imply she is a WW? I don't know..

And again the outrage I refer to is you all making a big deal of her turning out to be mixed. Is it invalid now? The girl who said she was pregnant, she went over to my friend, my friend is the one who has the white girlfriend from the ghetto who tries to act Black and loves Black men only but hates Black women.

She will admit it too. This is hilarious because my friend's mom is a Black women from the old school that donttake nothing and is outspoken. Shes also not a fan of White women..

I am not offended or out to get WW who hate BW I am just trying to understand about them.

Ofcourse. But not always. I understand why anyone defends themselves from any attack. Thats natural knowledge. What I dont understand is how some WW can hate a BW when her BM was raised by one or may have sisters or a grandma. Its a truncated racism and that is something i wish to understand. the WW hates BW but her BM wouldn't be in the world to be with her without a BW. I want to see how a quasi-racist uses their logic to reconcile that dilemma or awkward dynamic.

Its like when a parent will tell their kid that the bully bullies them because he hates himself. Thats not always true. You pointing to insecurity is the simple answer and theres more to it then that. We need answers not you dismissing something with lame Dr. Phil-isms.. We need a discussion with real explanations. if you dont know WW or you arenta WW with these views why are youeven in this thread? I didn't generalize, you just said I did so you'd have an excuse to fire "back" on me..
i dont have an agenda, i am blunt, outspoken, opinionated, and not concerned with popularity. I ask what i want to know or what others are too afraid to admit they want to know.

I have no animosity towards WW. I was born Black and I shall remain Black and my early upbringing and mistreatment by Whites affirmed that. I have a Jack Johnson mentality really.

But even though i am unapologetic about my Blacks and don't mind displaying it and infuriating and egging on the rednecks and skin heads I want my girl to be white. I don't want a wigger type of girl. I don't care what you think or anyone else, as a woman in an IR you should applaud that. White women are my world, all i have ever wanted is white women, all hat will ever mke me happy is a white woman, all i am attracted to (mostly) is white women. if there were no white girls my world wouldn't spin at all. I just want a white girl that is simply white..
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What's up with the novels? Shit...
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What the fuck is that supposed to mean?
You lose all credibility for naming our coupling, "Jungle Fever". What is this, 1991? That is YOUR perception and YOUR categories. They seem skewed to me and I can bring in White racist women vs. WW who date BM because they have a natural affinity. I can run the whole gamut too. Who are you? .
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Credibility? I dont need to prove my self to you. There is nothing skewed about my opinions. My categories INCLUDED "those who are simply sexually attracted to Black men, those who are attracted to whatever meets criteria."
Assuming your melodramatic outrage over me categorizing WW seeking BM was not pure theater I dont see why the two above categories are not sufficient enough for you. Maybe in your forced huffing and puffing you did not read that?

So what if I used the term Jungle Fever? I take the same liberties with color language as Dennis Miller. Don't harp on nothing..

A WW dating BM category expert? I was referring to WW that date BM. You live in TN. Not exactly the haven for interracial dating, so your perception seems to be skewed again. This is not to down anyone from the South, but I'm referring to how race relations are and the history behind it vs. a bigger city with much more acceptance or any other city in America with not such a touchy history
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Yeah, I am an expert, your an expert, Seal is an expert, Tiger is an expert, whoever partakes is an expert. Your experiences might be different but our knowledge of inter racial dating is the same.

Well you are downing the south. You act like the North is some haven for tolerance and an oasis of rainbow families. Who the fuck are you Harriet Tubman?! You go thru the usual misconceptions, that the South is stuck in a time warp and that some large concrete jungle has all the acceptance in the world. In LA Mexicans wanna kill my people, in Tennessee Mexicans shake my hand. A touchy history? One, CHARLOTTE NORTH CAROLINA IS THE BIRTH PLACE, two race is an issue or was a major issue in this country from Vermont to Hawai'i, three there is a lot of ethnic strife in places like L.A. and NYC. Theres hatred between Blacks, Whites, Browns, and nationalities I have never heard of with a demonym i cant even pronounce. I get along fine and I am helped out all the time by White folks and etc. The South and Tennesseans are not above reform you know. I am Black and have been called a nigger so many times I legally changed it to my middle name and even I am getting tired of people ragging on the South, damn...

Some WW might have options and some might choose her solely cause of her being White, but a lot of other races who are very attractive can have any man they want as well. I think you're feeding into that WW are on a pedestal or the European standards of beauty bullshit. I think this is more about the suitors, not the subject at hand.
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Why is it a bad thing if a man puts a white woman on a pedestal? You think just because he does its due to colonialism and brainwashing? This is what I mean by the PC stuff. You should bask in the glory and revel in the prestige of being a white girl. Instead you try to bolster up other women and spread the wealth as it were. Why take up that task? And is it patronizing?
The White Woman's burden? I thing a major point of contention is just the mathematics of it. When you go out and seek a mate your worried about being turned and your worried about others' perception of you when you are single too long. If a woman exhausts her white options she has her Black guys, her Latinos, and etc. The BW feels that maybe she cant gain ground. There is this innate need to stunt on others why you are in the process of finding your mate.

Its kinda like if your playing say mortal combat and your a huge expert on the game and i am not so good. You have 2 lives, I have 10. Even if your the expert seasoned gamer with that many lives im going to gain ground and its not going tobe viewed as fair. I'm not sure if thats the best analogy. I do thing that is something that angers a BW about a BM dating whoever and a WW dating whoever.


Pick up "our" men? I can already tell who I'm dealing with just by this alone. Are BM or any race of people someones property? Last I checked, you can date whoever you want, but if you're talking about racial counterparts, fine. Where are WW coming through the Black community to pick up men? Since when is picking up a BM easy? I like to know. It's not easy being in an IR cause you do get a lot of slack and have to be strong to combat the hate. What did WW do to detour BM off the straight and narrow path?
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You can't tell nothing about me.. Why are you phishing for the classic phrases? You remind me of those comedy skits where a White will you "you people need to blah blah" and the Black wil just say "YOU PEOPLE?!" and go back again and again to those two words and take it out of context..

In my current locale the white girls loved to come to the 'hood and hang out on west fulton street. Despite the fact that the block was hot and they were causing the police to encircle that area of the community. This was mostly during the 1990s though. Since when is it easy? When has it been hard for even a moderately fat chick to pick up guys? YOU have trouble picking up men?
Yea well that slack is the breaks. Theres always going to be someone jealous of something you've done or got. You dont have to be strong to combat hate you just need to be comfortable and sure of yourself. I could be leaving a soup kitchen in tattered clothes and I'd still swag surf because i think that highly of myself. Too many WW like yourself act like you deserve a purple heart for your commitment to an unpopular union..

I am not referring to myself or trying to open up the BM to attack but in many regards he is devastated. In many regards a BM is actually still a boy. The BW may understand the BM's arrested development more sufficiently then others. The BW has assumed a man's position in our community. In many households she is mommy and daddy. The problem is the BW has gone rogue in some regards because of the authority they assumed in many manless households. Some BM need rehabilitation, many BW can keep them in line but they dont know propr moderation. They dont know when to turn it off or what BM is in need so BM who are mature have to deal with them being overbearing too. I am not sure if the WW ca help some of these BM mature without being patronizing or too maternal since there is such a thin line.. Thats what i meant by keeping them in line because immaturity is an epidemic in or community sadly.
Black men have more options than ever, yes, but what's your point? We are also the most hated coupling in all of the IR matches.
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oh please its not a taboo competition.. Everything the Black man does has been controversial. When he was born and he was a cute little baby he was the center of controversy and heated debate. I think we reached a point in our race's history where al the hate and heat and condemnation just fed into our egos and fueled our rebel swag. The Black man was the orginal James Dean..

White women don't care about the immediate consequences of following their hearts and never have historically.
Everyone simply defended themselves as posters here. We were accused of something that was an outright falsehood.
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my mistake, my error but who cares? o what if the OP could not find a WW her lashing out at BW they exist, i have seen them before, I want to understand how they can hold those beliefs. Instead I get all you white girls running out here doing damage control and whatnot. You aren't prejudiced, good for you, too bad no one was asking about you to begin with though.

Who's trying too hard? What are you referring to exactly?

There are some WW who are scared of BW. I can agree with that.

I think this can be said on both sides. Women are pegged against each other as a whole in society. We're conditioned to compete and then when you add race and men to it, so many insecurities start flying.
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Just overdoing your respect for the trials and tribulations of BW and not saying anything negative at all about BW. I have seen it my whole life, WW get a little subordinate or quiet around BW. They kinda fal in line or become side kicks.

You arent pegged against each other you choose to treat each other the way you do. You choose to attack each other ruthless over everything.. Its easier for a woman to find a man then vice versa you know.
Yeah, you probably do evoke those things to get a rise out of the women cause it turns you on
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I do NOT invoke but if a WW is willing to fight that dirty against a BW just to get close tome i dofind that hot. I appreciate a feisty little thing that can scrap.
My point was, YOU must be doing something. Either provoking something from these women or attracting racist WW.
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My point wasn't that I was fighting with them but that we reached a point where her true colors were exposed yet she still wanted to engage but she held on to her views of white power. I didnt provoke anything fool..
 
Inner Beauty said:
Well, I don't agree with her or her racist rants, but again, she doesn't represent all WW who date BM.
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It was not about who the best face of the White female collective should be.. Everyone represents themselves, the point is i asked about them, you all laid down your credentials as good white girls and i did not ask for that and it does not cancel out the white women i was seeking to discuss.
Well, your upbringing and experience is why you feel the way you do. It sucks that you're narrow-minded and have tunnel vision. I'm not disputing that there are some racist, stuck-up, think they're Gods gift to BM WW out there, but you speak with a grudge.
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No its not. Everything I learned as chil I have blown off. I dont hold grudges, if i did I would be on some Louis Farrakhan shit. I am not narrow minded and i dont have tunnel vision your some paranoid white girl thats afraid any talk of any bad white women will lead to a back lash against yo because your already worn out from fighting to defend your IR. Your defensiveness is because you dont have any fight left in you. Your weary of more conflict but we cant tip toe around the issues..
Why do you want your girl to be White?
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Because they are the only girls i have feelings for. They do everything for me and no other race effects me. I dont even view non White women as women. I have the same relationships and feelings towards them that i would have towards a male. White women represent all that is feminine to me. they make my head spin, they make me euphoric. I dont know how this came about or even if it makes sense with my early exposures to white people. I can not elaborate further because i can not articulate why i yearn for white women...
 
One to Remember said:
What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

Credibility? I dont need to prove my self to you. There is nothing skewed about my opinions. My categories INCLUDED "those who are simply sexually attracted to Black men, those who are attracted to whatever meets criteria."
Assuming your melodramatic outrage over me categorizing WW seeking BM was not pure theater I dont see why the two above categories are not sufficient enough for you. Maybe in your forced huffing and puffing you did not read that?

So what if I used the term Jungle Fever? I take the same liberties with color language as Dennis Miller. Don't harp on nothing..


Yeah, I am an expert, your an expert, Seal is an expert, Tiger is an expert, whoever partakes is an expert. Your experiences might be different but our knowledge of inter racial dating is the same.

Well you are downing the south. You act like the North is some haven for tolerance and an oasis of rainbow families. Who the fuck are you Harriet Tubman?! You go thru the usual misconceptions, that the South is stuck in a time warp and that some large concrete jungle has all the acceptance in the world. In LA Mexicans wanna kill my people, in Tennessee Mexicans shake my hand. A touchy history? One, CHARLOTTE NORTH CAROLINA IS THE BIRTH PLACE, two race is an issue or was a major issue in this country from Vermont to Hawai'i, three there is a lot of ethnic strife in places like L.A. and NYC. Theres hatred between Blacks, Whites, Browns, and nationalities I have never heard of with a demonym i cant even pronounce. I get along fine and I am helped out all the time by White folks and etc. The South and Tennesseans are not above reform you know. I am Black and have been called a nigger so many times I legally changed it to my middle name and even I am getting tired of people ragging on the South, damn...


Why is it a bad thing if a man puts a white woman on a pedestal? You think just because he does its due to colonialism and brainwashing? This is what I mean by the PC stuff. You should bask in the glory and revel in the prestige of being a white girl. Instead you try to bolster up other women and spread the wealth as it were. Why take up that task? And is it patronizing?
The White Woman's burden? I thing a major point of contention is just the mathematics of it. When you go out and seek a mate your worried about being turned and your worried about others' perception of you when you are single too long. If a woman exhausts her white options she has her Black guys, her Latinos, and etc. The BW feels that maybe she cant gain ground. There is this innate need to stunt on others why you are in the process of finding your mate.

Its kinda like if your playing say mortal combat and your a huge expert on the game and i am not so good. You have 2 lives, I have 10. Even if your the expert seasoned gamer with that many lives im going to gain ground and its not going tobe viewed as fair. I'm not sure if thats the best analogy. I do thing that is something that angers a BW about a BM dating whoever and a WW dating whoever.



You can't tell nothing about me.. Why are you phishing for the classic phrases? You remind me of those comedy skits where a White will you "you people need to blah blah" and the Black wil just say "YOU PEOPLE?!" and go back again and again to those two words and take it out of context..

In my current locale the white girls loved to come to the 'hood and hang out on west fulton street. Despite the fact that the block was hot and they were causing the police to encircle that area of the community. This was mostly during the 1990s though. Since when is it easy? When has it been hard for even a moderately fat chick to pick up guys? YOU have trouble picking up men?
Yea well that slack is the breaks. Theres always going to be someone jealous of something you've done or got. You dont have to be strong to combat hate you just need to be comfortable and sure of yourself. I could be leaving a soup kitchen in tattered clothes and I'd still swag surf because i think that highly of myself. Too many WW like yourself act like you deserve a purple heart for your commitment to an unpopular union..

I am not referring to myself or trying to open up the BM to attack but in many regards he is devastated. In many regards a BM is actually still a boy. The BW may understand the BM's arrested development more sufficiently then others. The BW has assumed a man's position in our community. In many households she is mommy and daddy. The problem is the BW has gone rogue in some regards because of the authority they assumed in many manless households. Some BM need rehabilitation, many BW can keep them in line but they dont know propr moderation. They dont know when to turn it off or what BM is in need so BM who are mature have to deal with them being overbearing too. I am not sure if the WW ca help some of these BM mature without being patronizing or too maternal since there is such a thin line.. Thats what i meant by keeping them in line because immaturity is an epidemic in or community sadly.
oh please its not a taboo competition.. Everything the Black man does has been controversial. When he was born and he was a cute little baby he was the center of controversy and heated debate. I think we reached a point in our race's history where al the hate and heat and condemnation just fed into our egos and fueled our rebel swag. The Black man was the orginal James Dean..

White women don't care about the immediate consequences of following their hearts and never have historically.
my mistake, my error but who cares? o what if the OP could not find a WW her lashing out at BW they exist, i have seen them before, I want to understand how they can hold those beliefs. Instead I get all you white girls running out here doing damage control and whatnot. You aren't prejudiced, good for you, too bad no one was asking about you to begin with though.


Just overdoing your respect for the trials and tribulations of BW and not saying anything negative at all about BW. I have seen it my whole life, WW get a little subordinate or quiet around BW. They kinda fal in line or become side kicks.

You arent pegged against each other you choose to treat each other the way you do. You choose to attack each other ruthless over everything.. Its easier for a woman to find a man then vice versa you know.
I do NOT invoke but if a WW is willing to fight that dirty against a BW just to get close tome i dofind that hot. I appreciate a feisty little thing that can scrap.

My point wasn't that I was fighting with them but that we reached a point where her true colors were exposed yet she still wanted to engage but she held on to her views of white power. I didnt provoke anything fool..
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OH! OH! OH! OH! OH!

"One to Remember" is too damn funny and this person is entertaining me good enough to cause me roared the laughter!! I never laughed this harder in my life!

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Well Phony Saprano if you don't want to read shit perhaps you should uh not be apart of a FORUM... Not that I had confidence in you notbeing i..ilit.. come on sound it out! ILLITERATE.. yea..
 
I don't give a fuck about no damn Chinese. Neither does my boy right below. hahaha
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On a more academic note you realize that your image is flawed right? There is really no "Chinese" language.. "Chinese or the Sinitic language(s) (??/?? Hàny?; ??/?? Huáy?; ?? Zh?ngwén) is a language family consisting of languages which are mostly mutually unintelligible to varying degrees."

I think you should know a thing or two or at least try to read a book before you try to get witty bro.. Head on back to the goof troop man..
 
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One to Remember said:
I don't give a fuck about no damn Chinese. Neither does my boy right below. hahaha
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On a more academic note you realize that your image is flawed right? There is really no "Chinese" language.. "Chinese or the Sinitic language(s) (??/?? Hàny?; ??/?? Huáy?; ?? Zh?ngwén) is a language family consisting of languages which are mostly mutually unintelligible to varying degrees."

I think you should know or thing or two or at least try to read a book befgore you try to get witty bro.. Head on back to the goof troop man..
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ummm no I'll pass. And now wit the Nino Brown shit? Do your scarface impression for me man I know its coming, i know you got some lame ass Tony Montana above your bed on the wall just come onnnn. Pleasssseee!! Pretty please?


Yo yo big homie from the back block you can respect this

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P.S. Nino fucking Brown? LMMFAO that fool cant even stay out of jail for not paying his taxes. LMAO.
 
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