I never knew White Women felt this way..

There must be some validity to the question if its being brought up practically every week.
Just saying...

I'm not going to argue whether the topic has validity or not. That wasn't the point of my post. My point was this: why add a 51st thread when one can just add onto one of the many existing threads?

That topic has been debated ad nauseum on this site for as long as I can remember. And frankly, the topic is getting tired.
 
Heres something else bothering me, I have three or so topics I want to start:
Are you going to miss your race's characteristics when you have a biracial child?

Do you feel like some White women use Black men at a last resort?

What do you think of larger White women with Black men?

Sorry Books, but I'll bite and address these questions....

Missing "race characteristics" in my biracial child: No. Why not? Because I'll just be thrilled to have a healthy child. Why would I want her to have a greater chance of skin cancer or eye damage or a variety of diseases that predominate in the caucasion population? So really "race characteristics" is not an issue in my mind. I just want her healthy & happy.

Using black men as a last resort: If this is the reason a couple is together, then they need to resolve it and it's NONE OF MY BUSINESS.

Larger ww with bm: Is it possible that some men simply like larger women? Would me telling someone, anyone that they should only date anorexics or straight haired or black haired or black eyed people, or older men should only date older women be at all appropriate in ANY situation?

No, I don't care who people date as long as they are both adults. Does me dating taller men constitute a discussable issue? Or men that are intelligent instead of homeless drug addicts? People like what they like, who gives a crap.

Ok, rant over. My point is - most of the women and men on this forum are intelligent, successful, open minded people who don't buy into those stereotypes.

And now, I will return to my happy place. :D
 
Sorry Books, but I'll bite and address these questions....

Missing "race characteristics" in my biracial child: No. Why not? Because I'll just be thrilled to have a healthy child. Why would I want her to have a greater chance of skin cancer or eye damage or a variety of diseases that predominate in the caucasion population? So really "race characteristics" is not an issue in my mind. I just want her healthy & happy.

Using black men as a last resort: If this is the reason a couple is together, then they need to resolve it and it's NONE OF MY BUSINESS.

Larger ww with bm: Is it possible that some men simply like larger women? Would me telling someone, anyone that they should only date anorexics or straight haired or black haired or black eyed people, or older men should only date older women be at all appropriate in ANY situation?

No, I don't care who people date as long as they are both adults. Does me dating taller men constitute a discussable issue? Or men that are intelligent instead of homeless drug addicts? People like what they like, who gives a crap.

Ok, rant over. My point is - most of the women and men on this forum are intelligent, successful, open minded people who don't buy into those stereotypes.

And now, I will return to my happy place. :D
OOOO can I come, its pretty dreary here in NY today lol
 
Right I understand you completely. But I feel like you saying you "saw a pattern" is kinda like racial profiling ironically. You can profile based on certain variables but eventually in order for your actions to be of merit you gotta prove just cause..

Heres something else bothering me, I have three or so topics I want to start:
Are you going to miss your race's characteristics when you have a biracial child?

Do you feel like some White women use Black men at a last resort?

What do you think of larger White women with Black men?

Like Bookie I'm not going to dissect and respond to all the various parts of your post, however there are a couple comments I'd like to make.

For people who don't like long posts, be forewarned this is one to skip. :cool:

This is obviously a public forum, therefore it is open to members to freely discuss anything they like. However, the question you pose and the way you choose to phrase it will impact the response, or lack thereof, that you receive. This is the dynamic that people have mentioned to you. So if you come off disrepectful, don't expect to get respect in return. Some people get off on the wrong foot when they first join, but by consistently continuing to post, people get a better feel for their personality and they eventually find more and more people interacting with them. Tarshi is absolutely correct in her statement that certain people follow a fairly predictable pattern. That is one of the first things I noted about people with alternate agendas, they tend to start off in a similar fashion, and follow a predicable route. Sadly if you happen to follow that pattern, chances are some people will assume you have an alternate agenda, but again stick around and over time if that's not the case that will become clear.

Two of the three topics you mentioned that you'd like to start threads on have been discussed previously, #2 and #3 have reached the 'beating a dead horse' level on here IMO. That doesn't mean that the topics have no validity, it just means the questions been asked and answered, and answered, and answered... what more could you possibly hope to learn at this point? The first, I don't actually recall a specific thread about that, but frankly I don't get the point in the question in the first place. As for the threads on WW using the N word, there were several of those in the past year, I recall two specifically, I'm sure if you do a search you'll find those and I believe one was active up until a couple months ago. Bumping a thread doesn't make you suspect, the way you interact with people does. I don't go around calling everyone who joins a troll just because they say something I don't happen to like, in fact I use that term carefully. I understand that some people just don't have the best communication skills, or don't have good manners, or maybe they ask what appears to be a stupid question because they really don't know the answer. But in general being respectful in what you do ask, and in the way you reply to others, will make all the difference in how people respond to you.

You seem to believe that people who choose not to respond to a particular topic or post are avoiding the issue, not intelligent enough to discuss it, or are just apathetic to it. That's not necessarily the case, for instance on this thread in particular it may be they simply see no reason to respond to a topic that's been discussed multiple times, or have no desire to reply to the OP because she's suspect at best, or they simply have nothing to say to you. For me personally it's a combination of all three. I've already made my opinion on the OP known, so allow me to say I didn't reply to your post because I don't care for the way you talk to other posters, and that's my right.

You are openly disrespectful to people who have not approached you in a manner befitting disrespect, again my opinion. Therefore, I'm not going to interact with you anywhere on the forum, again my right. So if someone doesn't reply you shouldn't assume they have nothing to say, they may just have nothing to say to you. It wouldn't matter what thread you created, or what question you asked at this point, given the way you've chosen to talk to people like FG and Tony, I'm not wasting my time talking to you. Fortunately for you most of the people here are not that way, they're bigger than I am in that respect. That's another reason I haven't been posting much at all lately, it's not disagreements, debates, or dialogue of the longer term posters, it's several relatively new members that I simply refuse to be pleasant to because of how they choose to treat other members. That's not me avoiding sensitive people, or letting a couple bad apples spoil the whole barrel, that's me choosing to not put myself in a position where I have to be hateful and nasty to anyone on a regular basis, because that just serves no good purpose. Now there are some new members that I think are going to be assets to the forum and I'm not talking about them here, if I've never given you negative rep, I'm not talking to you, and if I had you'd know because I always sign it.


"I may not agree with what you say but I shall defend to the death your right to say it" S. G. Tallentyre

This quote is one of my favorites, and often misattributed to Voltaire. However believing someone has a right to say anything, whether you agree with them or not, is not the same as hoping they will do so politely if possible. I defend freedom of expression, but there are effective and ineffective ways to convey a message. If you express yourself with disrespect, rudeness, or condescension, don't feign shock and surprise when meaningful, productive dialogue does not follow.
 
Like Bookie I'm not going to dissect and respond to all the various parts of your post, however there are a couple comments I'd like to make.

For people who don't like long posts, be forewarned this is one to skip. :cool:

This is obviously a public forum, therefore it is open to members to freely discuss anything they like. However, the question you pose and the way you choose to phrase it will impact the response, or lack thereof, that you receive. This is the dynamic that people have mentioned to you. So if you come off disrepectful, don't expect to get respect in return. Some people get off on the wrong foot when they first join, but by consistently continuing to post, people get a better feel for their personality and they eventually find more and more people interacting with them. Tarshi is absolutely correct in her statement that certain people follow a fairly predictable pattern. That is one of the first things I noted about people with alternate agendas, they tend to start off in a similar fashion, and follow a predicable route. Sadly if you happen to follow that pattern, chances are some people will assume you have an alternate agenda, but again stick around and over time if that's not the case that will become clear.

Two of the three topics you mentioned that you'd like to start threads on have been discussed previously, #2 and #3 have reached the 'beating a dead horse' level on here IMO. That doesn't mean that the topics have no validity, it just means the questions been asked and answered, and answered, and answered... what more could you possibly hope to learn at this point? The first, I don't actually recall a specific thread about that, but frankly I don't get the point in the question in the first place. As for the threads on WW using the N word, there were several of those in the past year, I recall two specifically, I'm sure if you do a search you'll find those and I believe one was active up until a couple months ago. Bumping a thread doesn't make you suspect, the way you interact with people does. I don't go around calling everyone who joins a troll just because they say something I don't happen to like, in fact I use that term carefully. I understand that some people just don't have the best communication skills, or don't have good manners, or maybe they ask what appears to be a stupid question because they really don't know the answer. But in general being respectful in what you do ask, and in the way you reply to others, will make all the difference in how people respond to you.

You seem to believe that people who choose not to respond to a particular topic or post are avoiding the issue, not intelligent enough to discuss it, or are just apathetic to it. That's not necessarily the case, for instance on this thread in particular it may be they simply see no reason to respond to a topic that's been discussed multiple times, or have no desire to reply to the OP because she's suspect at best, or they simply have nothing to say to you. For me personally it's a combination of all three. I've already made my opinion on the OP known, so allow me to say I didn't reply to your post because I don't care for the way you talk to other posters, and that's my right.

You are openly disrespectful to people who have not approached you in a manner befitting disrespect, again my opinion. Therefore, I'm not going to interact with you anywhere on the forum, again my right. So if someone doesn't reply you shouldn't assume they have nothing to say, they may just have nothing to say to you. It wouldn't matter what thread you created, or what question you asked at this point, given the way you've chosen to talk to people like FG and Tony, I'm not wasting my time talking to you. Fortunately for you most of the people here are not that way, they're bigger than I am in that respect. That's another reason I haven't been posting much at all lately, it's not disagreements, debates, or dialogue of the longer term posters, it's several relatively new members that I simply refuse to be pleasant to because of how they choose to treat other members. That's not me avoiding sensitive people, or letting a couple bad apples spoil the whole barrel, that's me choosing to not put myself in a position where I have to be hateful and nasty to anyone on a regular basis, because that just serves no good purpose. Now there are some new members that I think are going to be assets to the forum and I'm not talking about them here, if I've never given you negative rep, I'm not talking to you, and if I had you'd know because I always sign it.




This quote is one of my favorites, and often misattributed to Voltaire. However believing someone has a right to say anything, whether you agree with them or not, is not the same as hoping they will do so politely if possible. I defend freedom of expression, but there are effective and ineffective ways to convey a message. If you express yourself with disrespect, rudeness, or condescension, don't feign shock and surprise when meaningful, productive dialogue does not follow.

In his defense he's new and had no way of knowing that certain topics have already been discussed.
 
Right I understand you completely. But I feel like you saying you "saw a pattern" is kinda like racial profiling ironically. You can profile based on certain variables but eventually in order for your actions to be of merit you gotta prove just cause..

Heres something else bothering me, I have three or so topics I want to start:
Are you going to miss your race's characteristics when you have a biracial child?

Do you feel like some White women use Black men at a last resort?

What do you think of larger White women with Black men?


Those are three topics that interest me greatly. Based on your logic of patterns I am going to face immediate problems asking them. Topic one will lead to allegations that i am an agent from racist site.***. Topic two will be viewed by some as me trying to get some Black men back on board for anti-miscegenation. The third question is going to be attacked by ALL TYPES of White women as an attempt to undermine their goals. Its going to be said that I am espousing stereotypes and cliches and will receive unjustified amounts of negative attention and universal condemnation.

I am going to be said to "fit a pattern", I am then going to be called a troll. This is all going to be compounded by the fact that I am new and all my posts have been on touchy and divisive topics. How you gonna kill the debate just because the topic will pump certain individuals up and lead to conflict(s).. The thread that brought me here was what Google gave me when i tried to find info about black guys who had been called the n word by their girlfriends.. I have been hesitant to respond for 2 reasons.

1. Its another controversial topic that I the new guy has chosen to weigh in on.
2. Its 3 years old so there is going to be an uproar over me bumping it the thread making a reappearance at all is going to lead to the troll allegations.

So we have a bump being taken out of context and we have a set up for the troll/flamer card, then we have grounds to invalidate even legitimate inquiries.

I went off about the n00b bs and seniority because I don't want to spend a year here talking on safe topics (like the sideburns thread) just so everyone can get used to me well enough to be able to ask divisive questions and not be called a troll. I joined for he LONG haul.. I don't want to be here that long not saying whats on my mind because I have questions right here and now I want to ask. Its not fair they are attacked because I am a member that signed up 3 days ago. I'm not here to cause a ruckus and i don't even want to here any of this "your probably some duplicate poster or banned member" nonsense.

Can we fucking do better then that? We got real world issues on the table and we are discussing them with internet standards of dialogue. I think that is a damn shame. I am sorry if I was again long winded Tarshi and YMRA.



Yeah I do like beefs from time to time and to see drama, but when I am not trying to cause it or intend to have it, then I'm just not game.

Tony came in w/ wise cracks, the thread was already off topic, my intent was to go off on him to stop a flame war in its early stages. I wanted to get back on topic, avoid sparring, and quash the beef with him early on to avoid others from jumping on the band wagon. I tried to use quick & overwhelming force to end the flaming & get the thread back on course, didn't work..

The second cause of my "fire" was because i feel like online discussions always turn to card games when something said goes against the grain. The troll card, spam card, the race card, etc.
I knew that when one of the girls said "she/he/it is going through thread by thread to find said evidence....meet back here in a year?" that the discussion was going to veer off course...

The white girls in this thread did not meet the OP's criteria. They did not hate BW and did not know of or had any stories about WW hating BW. With that right there, I knew the only things they could really do would be to attack Juicee & to allude to her being a troll. I was interested in the OP's question and I thought the topic was legit.. INSTEAD, the OP's intent was made suspect then through some WACKY internet logic/internet social procedure, the whole topic was made null & void.

That there got me heated and I felt it was unfair.. I really wanted to hear what people had to say about this interesting topic. I hope that explains my "fire" to those who were wondering..


P.S. I think this is a good site and serves a good purpose. We all have common ground and that helps a lot. We share common enemies and that also helps.

Just because society tries to break you all up does not mean anything that can (or even usually does) lead to heated disagreements between man & woman or black & white should not be allowed to be spoken of here..
You cant take disagreements out of our interactions because we are humans... So solidarity at what cost on this forum?

How can a taboo group have its on inner taboo subjects i ask? WE CAN ALL HANDLE THIS THREAD.. If you can not, you & the haters are now on par..

I hope this this posting helped you all to better understand me and where I am coming from.

I will leave you all w/ two quotes
"Escapism is merely a branch on the tree of denial" - me
"I may not agree with what you say but I shall defend to the death your right to say it" S. G. Tallentyre

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No offence but

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The point most are trying to get across to you is ALL the subject matter you have said you want to discuss, is already here. Go to search and look through the old threads. People are tired of the whole "beating a dead horse" syndrome, thats been going on.
 
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Maybe so. But with anything involving the internet: it's called the search button. :smt006

Amen Bookie! Try reading some older posts to get an idea of what has and has not been discussed. I think that's just common sense? I lurked for several months reading old posts before I joined, and it gives you a really good idea of who people are and what topics have been covered.
 
Amen Bookie! Try reading some older posts to get an idea of what has and has not been discussed. I think that's just common sense? I lurked for several months reading old posts before I joined, and it gives you a really good idea of who people are and what topics have been covered.

Now you guys are being unfair because you guys are the champions of everyone not thinking the same and just because you would take months to sift through old threads not everyone will. I came on and jumped right in just like several people and I brought up stuff that was old news for a lot of the older posters and called a troll for it. So all I'm saying is just be fair babygirl.
 
Now you guys are being unfair because you guys are the champions of everyone not thinking the same and just because you would take months to sift through old threads not everyone will. I came on and jumped right in just like several people and I brought up stuff that was old news for a lot of the older posters and called a troll for it. So all I'm saying is just be fair babygirl.

I believe I am fair. Frankly it's not what he brought up, but the way he brought it up that I find objectionable, again my opinion only. You caught some heat when you first joined, I recall that, but again it was not what you said so much as how you said it. You come on a little strong and abrupt, and as you know the majority of people in the world are taken aback by that. But over time people learned that's just how you are. I didn't call you a troll, nor did I think you were one, I just thought you were opinionated and blunt, and I'm fine with both. I haven't called this poster a troll either, but he is rude, and apparently ill informed. Joining a forum and immediately throwing around terms like hypocrite and coward, and being antagonistic to people you really know nothing about just isn't likely to lead anywhere good.

All I'm saying is you reap what you sow... modern translation, be an ass, get treated like an ass. I have no problem with people saying what they like, but they should be prepared for whatever response they receive, or no response at all. To be disrespectful and then seem surprised, hurt, offended, or angry with whatever response you get is just ignorant IMO.
 
Maybe so. But with anything involving the internet: it's called the search button. :smt006

Can I be honest in saying I'm not searching shit...

....that is all.

Someone told me about a picture v.o6 thread or something...

...meh.. The site is confusing enough without me getting lost in the vegetable soup that is the search results.

I'm good.
 
Can I be honest in saying I'm not searching shit...

....that is all.

Someone told me about a picture v.o6 thread or something...

...meh.. The site is confusing enough without me getting lost in the vegetable soup that is the search results.

I'm good.

At least someone gets it
 
(raises hand & waits to be called on) - may I ask a question? why's everyone expending so much energy on this one thread? frankly, my ass is worn out from sifting through all this...not critizing, just making an observation... :confused: :confused: :confused:
 
(raises hand & waits to be called on) - may I ask a question? why's everyone expending so much energy on this one thread? frankly, my ass is worn out from sifting through all this...not critizing, just making an observation... :confused: :confused: :confused:

had to rep you on that one. read it
 
Right, again that is where the noob comment came from. Maybe its part of your master plan. Jump in with both feet and start moon walking in the break dance contest...I don't know.

...but I don't think its too much to ask to get a feel for how this particular small group dynamic works. LOL....I was attacked when I first got here as well, but I squashed that shit a bit more eloquent than you.

I used a sniper rifle, and you used a shotgun.

LOL.. That was so funny.

Its just wise to have a general feel for the posters before you get antagonistic for no good reason and/or accuse them of stuff that has no basis in reality.
It takes a bit of sitting back and watching to do that.... You can post, but its wise to not be all agressive and antagonistic until you know who your talking to... It just saves oneself from looking like a fool.

Like has been said 100 times before, its not what you say - its how you say it. Its not about being PC, most of us gets that - its just that namecalling and personal accusations is really unessesary and dont further the discussion. Once that happens, the discussion is over. Every single time.

Its also an equally good idea to ask a question before shooting off both barrens based on missconstruding someones post.
 
Right, again that is where the noob comment came from. Maybe its part of your master plan. Jump in with both feet and start moon walking in the break dance contest...I don't know.

...but I don't think its too much to ask to get a feel for how this particular small group dynamic works. LOL....I was attacked when I first got here as well, but I squashed that shit a bit more eloquent than you.

I used a sniper rifle, and you used a shotgun.

what they get on you for ?
 
In his defense he's new and had no way of knowing that certain topics have already been discussed.

You are correct there Drae...I think everybody gets that - its was just an explanation of the events that happend trying to give him an insight of what has pranspired and that he can do a search.

Given that - he still has been unprovokedly antagonistic and rude, based on him missconstruing posts and taken stuff out of context... Its not a wise way to start. History here has proven that more often than not, it doesnt end well when you do that.

If he can keep it real and discuss these topics without being antagonistic and rude, by all means imo - he can choose to bump the threads that do exists... No one has a problem with that, Im sure.... people can choose to participate or not. But if that is done, as everybody do have a right to their opinion, there probably also will be a lot of groaning about it as well... and then we go to the "then dont go into the thread" discussion...
Rinse, repeat.
LOL

:smt081
 
what they get on you for ?

I don't remember, couple dudes thinkin' I was musclin' in on their e-pussy. Meh. I got...

- look around
- search
- something about black women. blah, blah, blah,

I got pretty much what One to Remember got, I just gave them the attention they deserved....not much. I really like this site, but yall are some emotional cats (and I'm talking about the dudes) every damn thread turns into a dumb as argument.

There seems to be WAY more dudes than women maybe that's it. (at least more dudes posting). Yall ever wonder why they say "Ladies in free before 11" that's so the club don't end up with a bunch of hard legs.

And the new folk (I realize I'm) seem really to be looking for some easy white net pussy...

...and when they can't find it they bail.

I stay not because of the women; Lets be honest. I'm not here to try to get no ass. And if I was, I'm not about to pay a 1,500 plan ticket to go get no ass either. And most of the women dont' seem to be any where near my crazy ass.
...well ok I do want to see flyingeek in a bikini...preferable with a booty shot...and if god willing naked. But that's an asside.

I stay not because of the white women black men, really I could give a shit about the overall name of the site.

I stay not because of the topic, most of the topics are just FUCKING SILLY...I read the titles and move on....I don't even go into them.

....I stay because this seems, for the most part, the one place on the net where brothaz just hang out. Even for you emotional cats. This place is cool. Some of the topics are silly but I dig cats like Botan and Petty Officer....
 
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