Why do people complaining about The Matrix's sequels?

[Morning Star]

I think critics just couldn't appreciate a great story over visual effects.

Either that or they felt the story was either too convoluted or too pretentious for people to understand. I have to admit though, while the themes of existentialism, nihilism, and other philosophical elements were definitely great, I think they "washed" themselves hard on the third installment. But you're pretty much right on the ball.

Also, the general audience preferred the actions sequences over comprehending a story.

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

First of all I loved the Matrix get it right missy lol.
Secondly you may not like the Matrix but there wasn't any plot holes. Everything fit the story.

In LOTR they should have never introduced the hawks because it makes the viewer wonder why they couldn't have flown to Mordor instead of walking for days. Made no sense my friend.

Sorry I would have answered this earlier today but had to run off to work. The reason why the eagles were not used to fly into Mordor until the end of LoTRs was because of the Eye of Mordor. The whole reason why they were sneaking into Mordor on foot was so that the Eye would not be able to sense the presence of the Ring. If they would have tried to simple fly into Mordor to get to the volcano to destroy the Ring on the eagles The Eye would have sensed the presence of the Ring as they approached and sent out the Flying RIngwraiths to intercept them and take the Ring. Not only that but I'm sure that any attempt to flying over Mordor would have been met with some sorrt of medieval form of air defence such as catapults or giant cross bow lance spears. It was only after the Ring was destroy and Sauron's essence dispresed again and Mordor began to fall apart because of that, that the eagles were able to fly in. Good enough?

 

[TheHuntress]

Sorry I would have answered this earlier today but had to run off to work. The reason why the eagles were not used to fly into Mordor until the end of LoTRs was because of the Eye of Mordor. The whole reason why they were sneaking into Mordor on foot was so that the Eye would not be able to sense the presence of the Ring. If they would have tried to simple fly into Mordor to get to the volcano to destroy the Ring on the eagles The Eye would have sensed the presence of the Ring as they approached and sent out the Flying RIngwraiths to intercept them and take the Ring. Not only that but I'm sure that any attempt to flying over Mordor would have been met with some sorrt of medieval form of air defence such as catapults or giant cross bow lance spears. It was only after the Ring was destroy and Sauron's essence dispresed again and Mordor began to fall apart because of that, that the eagles were able to fly in. Good enough?

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[Ol'Skool Classic]

:smt050

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Yeah....Brother Man is good, huh? :smt029

 

[TheHuntress]

Yeah....Brother Man is good, huh? :smt029

You aight.

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

You aight.

Oh, just aight, huh. I'll remember that.

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

Pinpoint to me in the video the exact moment Vader manuvered his ship to "avoid" Han Solo.

There isn't one, considering Solo was not trying to take out Vader to begin with but was only trying to give Luke breathing room to blow up the Death Star, so he shot at a Tie Fighter at random. And how would Han Solo know that it was Darth Vader in the Command Tie Fighter to begin with? The movie audience knows but the characters from the story stand point would not know who would be in that particular Tie Fighter.

 

[The Dark King]

There isn't one, considering Solo was not trying to take out Vader to begin with but was only trying to give Luke breathing room to blow up the Death Star, so he shot at a Tie Fighter at random. And how would Han Solo know that it was Darth Vader in the Command Tie Fighter to begin with? The movie audience knows but the characters from the story stand point would not know who would be in that particular Tie Fighter.

Thanks Ra I seriously didn't have the energy for that one.

 

[The Dark King]

Sorry I would have answered this earlier today but had to run off to work. The reason why the eagles were not used to fly into Mordor until the end of LoTRs was because of the Eye of Mordor. The whole reason why they were sneaking into Mordor on foot was so that the Eye would not be able to sense the presence of the Ring. If they would have tried to simple fly into Mordor to get to the volcano to destroy the Ring on the eagles The Eye would have sensed the presence of the Ring as they approached and sent out the Flying RIngwraiths to intercept them and take the Ring. Not only that but I'm sure that any attempt to flying over Mordor would have been met with some sorrt of medieval form of air defence such as catapults or giant cross bow lance spears. It was only after the Ring was destroy and Sauron's essence dispresed again and Mordor began to fall apart because of that, that the eagles were able to fly in. Good enough?

I eye of Mordor could always sense the essence of the ring thats why the wrath always knew where they were. So flying there would have made very little difference.

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

Thanks Ra I seriously didn't have the energy for that one.

No problem. But I think ol' boy will completely ignore what I posted. We don't see eye to eye on the issue of having respect.

I eye of Mordor could always sense the essence of the ring thats why the wrath always knew where they were. So flying there would have made very little difference.

True, the Eye could sense the essence but could not pinpoint exactly where the ring was, which is why they made a big fuss about Frodo not putting the Ring on his finger because it would give the Eye the exact location of the Ring. Whence why they were sneaking in rather than just taking a direct route into Mordor.

 

[4north1side2]

There isn't one, considering Solo was not trying to take out Vader to begin with but was only trying to give Luke breathing room to blow up the Death Star, so he shot at a Tie Fighter at random. And how would Han Solo know that it was Darth Vader in the Command Tie Fighter to begin with? The movie audience knows but the characters from the story stand point would not know who would be in that particular Tie Fighter.

Han Solo had the aerial altitude advantage, he could of of easily took out all 3 Tie Fighters but instead screamed for joy for taking out a goon.

Cracked.com summed it up perfectly.


Incidentally, this also brings to light the fact that Han Solo had a once-in-a-lifetime shot to take down the Dark Lord of the Sith and squandered it on a wingman. Apparently stupid goes both ways, since if you have a three-man formation and the guy in the center has a completely different vehicle, odds are pretty good he isn't just some grunt being escorted to the Imperial Birthday Party Wing of the Death Star while a battle rages around him. Han had the element of surprise and apparently his total pick of who he was going to shoot, because it was an instantly lethal shot

Read more: http://www.cracked.com/article_1871...who-saved-day-in-star-wars.html#ixzz196aafwQf

Thanks Ra I seriously didn't have the energy for that one.

Because you have no arguement. Still waiting for you to pinpoint the moment that Vader avoided Han Solo's shot which will be never. Apparently Han lacked any common sense when it comes to deciphering VIP targets.

Now I think about it, it's even more retarded than before. Your telling me with the hundreds of Tie Fighter's that were dispatched against the Rebels and the thousands of turrents within the trench, they goin just let that big ass ship slip on by jepordizing the 2nd in commands life.

SMH

lol @ Darth Vader becoming frugal with the lasers with the Death Star at stake.


What's especially funny about this whole situation was Darth Vader, skipping the force in favor of his gunsight, while Luke skipped his sight.

lol

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

Han Solo had the aerial altitude advantage, he could of of easily took out all 3 Tie Fighters but instead screamed for joy for taking out a goon.

Cracked.com summed it up perfectly.


Incidentally, this also brings to light the fact that Han Solo had a once-in-a-lifetime shot to take down the Dark Lord of the Sith and squandered it on a wingman. Apparently stupid goes both ways, since if you have a three-man formation and the guy in the center has a completely different vehicle, odds are pretty good he isn't just some grunt being escorted to the Imperial Birthday Party Wing of the Death Star while a battle rages around him. Han had the element of surprise and apparently his total pick of who he was going to shoot, because it was an instantly lethal shot

Read more: http://www.cracked.com/article_1871...who-saved-day-in-star-wars.html#ixzz196aafwQf

This is why I prefer face to face debates over internet debates. People wanting to express themselves but relying on Google, Wikipedia or other online sources to make their point rather than actually using their own knowledge, personal analyses and opinons to make their point. It's a cheat. I want your feedback & viewpoint if I engage you in a discussion, not what someone else put up somewhere else online that matches what you think. I don't mind someone referencing other sources in a debate, but to rely on it as your primary source of your argument makes it seem as if you don't actually have an honest point to make.

 

[The Dark King]

Han Solo had the aerial altitude advantage, he could of of easily took out all 3 Tie Fighters but instead screamed for joy for taking out a goon.

Cracked.com summed it up perfectly.


Incidentally, this also brings to light the fact that Han Solo had a once-in-a-lifetime shot to take down the Dark Lord of the Sith and squandered it on a wingman. Apparently stupid goes both ways, since if you have a three-man formation and the guy in the center has a completely different vehicle, odds are pretty good he isn't just some grunt being escorted to the Imperial Birthday Party Wing of the Death Star while a battle rages around him. Han had the element of surprise and apparently his total pick of who he was going to shoot, because it was an instantly lethal shot

Read more: http://www.cracked.com/article_1871...who-saved-day-in-star-wars.html#ixzz196aafwQf



Because you have no arguement. Still waiting for you to pinpoint the moment that Vader avoided Han Solo's shot which will be never. Apparently Han lacked any common sense when it comes to deciphering VIP targets.

Now I think about it, it's even more retarded than before. Your telling me with the hundreds of Tie Fighter's that were dispatched against the Rebels and the thousands of turrents within the trench, they goin just let that big ass ship slip on by jepordizing the 2nd in commands life.

SMH

lol @ Darth Vader becoming frugal with the lasers with the Death Star at stake.


What's especially funny about this whole situation was Darth Vader, skipping the force in favor of his gunsight, while Luke skipped his sight.

lol

The objective was to allow Luke to get off the shot not to kill other pilots. So he was focused on that one objective and getting out of there before other Imperial Forces got there kid.

 

[4north1side2]

The objective was to allow Luke to get off the shot not to kill other pilots. So he was focused on that one objective and getting out of there before other Imperial Forces got there kid.

Except Han destroyed 1 ship while leaving behind 2. Vader even locked onto Luke and let off 5 shots which went....uhhh hmmmm I don't know because George Lucas is a horrible director so what was the point of even locking on again?

Just an all around horrid scene.

BTW Eye of Rah, their's no debating when it comes to your feminine ways like changing the subject when you are wrong.

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

Except Han destroyed 1 ship while leaving behind 2. Vader even locked onto Luke and let off 5 shots which went....uhhh hmmmm I don't know because George Lucas is a horrible director so what was the point of even locking on again?

Just an all around horrid scene.

BTW Eye of Rah, their's no debating when it comes to your feminine ways like changing the subject when you are wrong.

There was no changing of the subject there Mr. Shady Ass. I can't be wrong about something when you didn't prove anything. Both Mr. Fantastic and I still aren't buying what you're trying to sell on the Star Wars front. And of course you would know about someone having feminine ways wouldn't you, being you are an expert when it comes to being a straight bitch ass nigger.

 

[4north1side2]

There was no changing of the subject there Mr. Shady Ass. I can't be wrong about something when you didn't prove anything. Both Mr. Fantastic and I still aren't buying what you're trying to sell on the Star Wars front. And of course you would know about someone having feminine ways wouldn't you, being you are an expert when it comes to being a straight bitch ass nigger.

I'll just agree to disagree... Don't want to be the cause of you having a stroke over a fictional movie.

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

I'll just agree to disagree... Don't want to be the cause of you having a stroke over a fictional movie.

OH!! OH SHIT!! You hear that Elizabeth?? I'm gonna be with you real soon honey. This clearly superior mined young individual is gonna make me have a stroke or heart attack or something over the subject of a damn movie. Boy, quit sucking yourself off so hard and get over yourself. You ain't as bright as you like to think you are. I've seen and dealt with inbred assed out rednecks smarter than you.

 

[goodlove]

The Matrix was the greatest triology of all time fuck Star Wars and fuck Lord of the Rings.

Me too, so I don't know either.



I couldn't get into it either...Frodo/Elijah Wood also irritates me for some reason.

the matrix wore out its welcome. the 1st was great....lord of the rings killed me. I hated the bald creepy guy story line who was obsessed with the ring and fighting mr. frodo. my frodo was a pussy. he couldnt take out that scrawny bald headed dude. omg.

 

[Tamstrong]

the matrix wore out its welcome. the 1st was great....lord of the rings killed me. I hated the bald creepy guy story line who was obsessed with the ring and fighting mr. frodo. my frodo was a pussy. he couldnt take out that scrawny bald headed dude. omg.

I can't even stand the sight of Frodo for some reason. I'd rather look at the "scrawny bald headed dude"...I can't stand Frodo for some reason.

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

I can't even stand the sight of Frodo for some reason. I'd rather look at the "scrawny bald headed dude"...I can't stand Frodo for some reason.

You know you love that Frodo. You'd run off with him and have nice little Frodo Babies if you could.