"Who Will Rape Me?" from The Frisky

FG said:
You mean some ww, Im sure.... it was just weird how you wrote that.
Also, women, in general (of all "races") have claimed false rape charges - and it has been towards men of all "races". Im not sure why you pick specifically ww falsely blaming bm in this subject - that is screwed. Most rapecharges are real and not made up.. and also to consider is that the majority of rapes never get reported. Dont make this an anti wwbm thing... that makes up a very little part of the whole.
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for fucks sake..guess i'll have to add the PC disclaimer(tm) to my posts, just to shut people up with their late-night sandbagging

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Well its time for Mr Two Cents to make some change up in here.

I think this thread should have been posted in the women's locker room being that it was suppose to be informative and a cautionary tale to help women avoid a possible dangerous situation. Its important to be prepared and women should talk about it however don't act all shocked when men say this uncomfortable to talk about. To me rape for women is the equivelance of racial injustice for bm. We can conceptualize it but can never truly understand so it becomes a complete egg shell conversation because its an understandably sensative subject.

I also agree with Petty on this ridiculous pc environment people keep trying to create here. The mothafuka has been on here for 3 years does he really still need to say some not all? You know who he is at this point and can easily imply that he didn't mean every single case of rape had someone falsely accusing someone.
While I'm on the topic of false rape there should be a mandatory life sentence for anyone who falsy accuses someone. It ruins a mans life, just having a record of alleged rape messes up your chance of employment and finding a place to live. People don't want to take the chance if allegations could have been true. Women should also want this because it takes away credibility from women who actually are raped.
As a black man one of my biggest fears is being falsely accused of a crime. There was a point when I was dating where I would make sure all my first three or four dates were in very public places and always used my credit card to establish a time line. It sounds incredibly paranoid but in this world being black is enough for a jury to convict especially since I prefer ww. We still live in a world where people can't concieve of a pretty white women actually being into a black man so in regards to what Petty said earlier I totally understand.
 
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MrFantastic said:
Well its time for Mr Two Cents to make some change up in here.

I think this thread should have been posted in the women's locker room being that it was suppose to be informative and a cautionary tale to help women avoid a possible dangerous situation. Its important to be prepared and women should talk about it however don't act all shocked when men say this uncomfortable to talk about. To me rape for women is the equivelance of racial injustice for bm. We can conceptualize it but can never truly understand so it becomes a complete egg shell conversation because its an understandably sensative subject.

I also agree with Petty on this ridiculous pc environment people keep trying to create here. The mothafuka has been on here for 3 years does he really still need to say some not all? You know who he is at this point and can easily imply that he didn't mean every single case of rape had someone falsely accusing someone.
While I'm on the topic of false rape there should be a mandatory life sentence for anyone who falsy accuses someone. It ruins a mans life, just having a record of alleged rape messes up your chance of employment and finding a place to live. People don't want to take the chance if allegations could have been true. Women should also want this because it takes away credibility from women who actually are raped.
As a black man one of my biggest fears is being falsely accused of a crime. There was a point when I was dating where I would make sure all my first three or four dates were in very public places and always used my credit card to establish a time line. It sounds incredibly paranoid but in this world being black is enough for a jury to convict especially since I prefer ww. We still live in a world where people can't concieve of a pretty white women actually being into a black man so in regards to what Petty said earlier I totally understand.
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MrF, I posted that in response to the allegations in the news about Julian Assange and the Etsy scandal. That's why that article was written in the first place. Reasons like this article: The rush to smear Assange's rape accuser.

And no, it shouldn't have gone in the Women's Locker Room. This isn't just a 'girl thing'. It shouldn't be shoved in a corner, considering the events out of which the topic was created. It should be in the forefront, because it never is. It's always the elephant in the room.

Maybe you should focus less on the false accusations and focus more on the REAL ones. The false ones are few... real rapes happen. Often.

According to Rape Abuse and Incest National Network (RAINN):

Every 2 minutes, someone is sexually assaulted.

1 in 6 women, and 1 in 33 men will be sexually assaulted in their lifetime.

60% of sexual assaults are NOT reported to the police.

Approximately 73% of rape victims know their attacker.

Only 6% of rapists will ever spend a day in jail.


Now, with statistics like that, focusing on the false accusations seems silly. I had a friend who was falsely accused, so I know what people go through when it comes to that sort of thing. I've seen it happen. I watched him get ostracized and have trouble making new friends and joining the military. He had to go through hoops to do that! It was ridiculous. I agree that there should be punishment for people who falsely accuse because it makes everyone suspicious of the rest of us, but by focusing on false accusations is a roundabout way of saying 'Well, we don't really believe this exists or it's a problem.'

Maybe you don't actually feel that way, but that's the way it comes across. Every single time a thread is posted about the realities of rape, someone chimes in with 'WHAT ABOUT THE FALSE ACCUSATIONS?!'

Let me tell you guys something, you know what's worse than being falsely accused?

Actually being raped.

You know what's worse than being raped?

Being raped and then having someone not believe you, or tell you you shouldn't have been wearing 'x'.

Those things happen. And now it's happening with Julian Assange. Just because some people see him as a famous freedom fighter, all of a sudden he must be SO good that he can't possibly have raped anybody, right? Of course! Kobe Bryant is a great basketball star..OMG.. he can't rape anyone!...right? "Hey, Remember How Kobe Bryant is Probably a Rapist?"- Ms. Magazine.

If you ask the women in your life, I guarantee you that at least one of them has been sexually assaulted or raped. I also can pretty much guarantee that they didn't report it, either. You know why that is? You probably would have known about it if they had reported it, and they probably feel more shame about it because it was someone they knew- likely someone who had power over them- and they were made to feel like it was their fault.

Go ahead, go tell your mothers, sisters, friends, daughters, and wives that you don't want to talk about rape and its impact on society- you want to talk about how many false accusations there are. You don't want to talk about the fact that it's one of the most violent acts one human can do to another, but you want to talk about how sweet Kobe's jump shot it. You don't want to talk about rape in any kind of open forum because you're afraid of being accused of committing a crime (nevermind that 52% of rapists are white)- not sure how that ties in together by your logic- but you'd rather talk about how awesome Julian Assange is for leaking all of that cool stuff on the internet! What a freakin' hero!

We have one hell of a warped sense of heroism in this country, and frankly, it's terrifying.
 
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MrFantastic said:
Well its time for Mr Two Cents to make some change up in here.

I think this thread should have been posted in the women's locker room being that it was suppose to be informative and a cautionary tale to help women avoid a possible dangerous situation. Its important to be prepared and women should talk about it however don't act all shocked when men say this uncomfortable to talk about. To me rape for women is the equivelance of racial injustice for bm. We can conceptualize it but can never truly understand so it becomes a complete egg shell conversation because its an understandably sensative subject.

I also agree with Petty on this ridiculous pc environment people keep trying to create here. The mothafuka has been on here for 3 years does he really still need to say some not all? You know who he is at this point and can easily imply that he didn't mean every single case of rape had someone falsely accusing someone.
While I'm on the topic of false rape there should be a mandatory life sentence for anyone who falsy accuses someone. It ruins a mans life, just having a record of alleged rape messes up your chance of employment and finding a place to live. People don't want to take the chance if allegations could have been true. Women should also want this because it takes away credibility from women who actually are raped.
As a black man one of my biggest fears is being falsely accused of a crime. There was a point when I was dating where I would make sure all my first three or four dates were in very public places and always used my credit card to establish a time line. It sounds incredibly paranoid but in this world being black is enough for a jury to convict especially since I prefer ww. We still live in a world where people can't concieve of a pretty white women actually being into a black man so in regards to what Petty said earlier I totally understand.
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Good points.

I do disagree with it just being put in the women's room, though. You have a girlfriend, sister and mother? Wouldn't this information help you with advice to keep them safer?
 
MrFantastic said:
Well its time for Mr Two Cents to make some change up in here.

I think this thread should have been posted in the women's locker room being that it was suppose to be informative and a cautionary tale to help women avoid a possible dangerous situation. Its important to be prepared and women should talk about it however don't act all shocked when men say this uncomfortable to talk about. To me rape for women is the equivelance of racial injustice for bm. We can conceptualize it but can never truly understand so it becomes a complete egg shell conversation because its an understandably sensative subject.

I also agree with Petty on this ridiculous pc environment people keep trying to create here. The mothafuka has been on here for 3 years does he really still need to say some not all? You know who he is at this point and can easily imply that he didn't mean every single case of rape had someone falsely accusing someone.
While I'm on the topic of false rape there should be a mandatory life sentence for anyone who falsy accuses someone. It ruins a mans life, just having a record of alleged rape messes up your chance of employment and finding a place to live. People don't want to take the chance if allegations could have been true. Women should also want this because it takes away credibility from women who actually are raped.
As a black man one of my biggest fears is being falsely accused of a crime. There was a point when I was dating where I would make sure all my first three or four dates were in very public places and always used my credit card to establish a time line. It sounds incredibly paranoid but in this world being black is enough for a jury to convict especially since I prefer ww. We still live in a world where people can't concieve of a pretty white women actually being into a black man so in regards to what Petty said earlier I totally understand.
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It wasn't about being pc, that wasn't my issue with the post MrF.. thats what he assumed it to be, it wasn't. Go back and read. But seriously, in that topic it would have been advisable to spell it out. His whole post came across sideways. I love the dude but it was messed up.

You do have some valid points but DB has some very valid points that you should not forget.
Its very important and this thread should not be in the womens locker room.. this is information men and women need to have. A subject that should not disappear just because it makes some men uncomfortable.
And that the discussion automatically goes to false accusations is concerning to me, yes its horrible and destroys lives and credibility for real victims and should be punishable by law. But please realize its a very very small portion - there are more concerning issues in the subject.
 
The thing that irks me about rape (besides the fact that its a horrible crime) is that I noticed women who are charged with rape get lesser sentences than men are who are charged with rape. Notice how society handles rape (specifically statutory rape), if a guy does it, hes a dirty pig, if a girls does it all you hear is dudes making jokes about "why couldnt I have a teacher like that" or some other shit.....

Everybody above me makes some pretty good points though.
 
FG said:
It wasn't about being pc, that wasn't my issue with the post MrF.. thats what he assumed it to be, it wasn't. Go back and read. But seriously, in that topic it would have been advisable to spell it out. His whole post came across sideways. I love the dude but it was messed up.

You do have some valid points but DB has some very valid points that you should not forget.
Its very important and this thread should not be in the womens locker room.. this is information men and women need to have. A subject that should not disappear just because it makes some men uncomfortable.
And that the discussion automatically goes to false accusations is concerning to me, yes its horrible and destroys lives and credibility for real victims and should be punishable by law. But please realize its a very very small portion - there are more concerning issues in the subject.
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So what would you suggest as solution because we're all aware of rape but me as a man what can I possibly do?
Having the discussion alone is uncomfortable as hell and I didn't mean for you guys to think I want this topic tucked away but I don't see how men can really contribute to the conversation.
 
As a man, u can make broads sign an agreement before sex

look at how many rape cases and sexual assaults against women were in the media

remember kobe?
 
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Kushton Slater said:
The thing that irks me about rape (besides the fact that its a horrible crime) is that I noticed women who are charged with rape get lesser sentences than men are who are charged with rape. Notice how society handles rape (specifically statutory rape), if a guy does it, hes a dirty pig, if a girls does it all you hear is dudes making jokes about "why couldnt I have a teacher like that" or some other shit.....

Everybody above me makes some pretty good points though.
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I have always found that odd.... that needs to change, its disgusting.

MrFantastic said:
So what would you suggest as solution because we're all aware of rape but me as a man what can I possibly do?
Having the discussion alone is uncomfortable as hell and I didn't mean for you guys to think I want this topic tucked away but I don't see how men can really contribute to the conversation.
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I hear ya my friend.. its uncomfortable for everybody... Men can most definitively contribute to the convo. I even think its essential. Men do get affected as well by rape and can even destroy their lives even if it was not them who got raped. Men that do get raped, I think have even more of a stigma to carry than women do.
 
FG said:
I have always found that odd.... that needs to change, its disgusting.



I hear ya my friend.. its uncomfortable for everybody... Men can most definitively contribute to the convo. I even think its essential. Men do get affected as well by rape and can even destroy their lives even if it was not them who got raped. Men that do get raped, I think have even more of a stigma to carry than women do.
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Again like I said before for most men rape isn't really a threat unless in prison. Most rapist are cowards and would rarely try that shit with someone who could defend themselves. Its very unlikely that would happen to me or someone I know and like I said previously I can only empathize with this I can never sympathize just like with racial injustice in regards to black men and ww trying to console us. It's not a lack of caring but a true lack of understanding because its very unlikely that we'll experience it let alone on the same level.
 
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Again like I said before for most men rape isn't really a threat unless in prison. Most rapist are cowards and would rarely try that shit with someone who could defend themselves. Its very unlikely that would happen to me or someone I know and like I said previously I can only empathize with this I can never sympathize just like with racial injustice in regards to black men and ww trying to console us. It's not a lack of caring but a true lack of understanding because its very unlikely that we'll experience it let alone on the same level.
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Empathize and staying invoked is all you need to do. Just because I cant fully and completely understand how it is to be subject to racial injustice doesnt mean I should stay out of the discussion.
Staying involved is part of the fight, whatever the fight might be.
 
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