Elin now dating a white guy

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lipstick said:
in reference to the thread title

lippy has a question...did anyone here think even for one second that elin would date another black man?

my answer: absolutely NOT
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well as the op, i did it for those who thought when they said she was with a south african, that he was black....a nanny isn't the most worldly person so i wouldn't see her as that open-minded.
 
TERRASTAR18 said:
well as the op, i did it for those who thought when they said she was with a south african, that he was black....a nanny isn't the most worldly person so i wouldn't see her as that open-minded.
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i don't see her as running back to white men...i would venture to say that the only reason she even gave tiger a chance was because someone made the personal introduction...with two little kids she probably doesn't have alot of time for dating...although i would imagine that she would like to have a family life eventually
 
lipstick said:
i don't see her as running back to white men...i would venture to say that the only reason she even gave tiger a chance was because someone made the personal introduction...with two little kids she probably doesn't have alot of time for dating...although i would imagine that she would like to have a family life eventually
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tiger-" elin,my checkbook.my checkbook,elin."
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Tarshi said:
lol...men....!!! what i get in child support from my ex doesn't even cover a weeks worth of groceries, yet he moans that he has to pay child support. he had the kids saturday night & will not see them again for another 3 weeks. give me a break. the man has more man toys you could poke a stick at & he's complaining about child support
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not saying you are doing it but many women try very hard to alienate the kids from the father. My ex tried that shit big time and i had to take her to court for that shit.

MrFantastic said:
Um thats not MEN that's a loser. Any man worth his weight in dirt would not only feel a responsibility to take care of his kids, he would feel honored to do so. Only a weak ass bitch would actually have the nerve to complain about taking care of his kids. If anything he should be asking what more can I do. SMFH
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It cost more to get out of a marriage than to get in. dont get married or you will be that loser

Iggy said:
Just curious but are Tarshi and Lippy's exes white or black by any chance???
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doesnt matter. a man who dont try to spend time with the kids is a fucked up dude. not paying C/S is fucked up. women who whine about the C/S is fucked up in the head too. women who give a hard time to a dude in seeing the kids need to get their asses kicked.

please note: I never heard a kid say....I got on drugs or joined a gang because you didnt buy me the fruit loops and the new car I wanted.

lipstick said:
in reference to the thread title

lippy has a question...did anyone here think even for one second that elin would date another black man?

my answer: absolutely NOT
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why you say that ?
 
TERRASTAR18 said:
well as the op, i did it for those who thought when they said she was with a south african, that he was black....a nanny isn't the most worldly person so i wouldn't see her as that open-minded.
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uhm, acctually.... her parents are a journalist and a politician and the nanny gig certainly does not define her, I don't think it was her career choice - its common for Swedish girls to do that for a few years to travel.
I think since she has taken up her degree again, I think its a Master but not sure.
She comes from a well off family with extremely well educated people - She is guaranteed to be both worldly and open-minded, rest assure of that.
 
FG said:
uhm, acctually.... her parents are a journalist and a politician and the nanny gig certainly does not define her, I don't think it was her career choice - its common for Swedish girls to do that for a few years to travel.
I think since she has taken up her degree again, I think its a Master but not sure.
She comes from a well off family with extremely well educated people - She is guaranteed to be both worldly and open-minded, rest assure of that.
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Boo fucking hoo

she was a nanny not a fellow star

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Max Mosley said:
Endorsements are the fruits of an athlete's talent and or labor. If it werent, corporations wouldnt bother approaching them.

Its not free money.
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I think you're missing a vital link there... Endorsements are the fruit of an athlete's celebrity.

You're making the link from talent and labor directly to worth. In this case Worth is a product of celebrity, and celebrity is a product of talent and labor. You can't skip the middle man and say the worth is a product of the talent.

His talent is sought after and admired and this brings him to the forefront of the entertainment industry. It doesn't automatically mean his talent and labor is worth hundreds of millions in endorsements.

And of course I'm talking about worth in a monetary sense.
 
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JordanC said:
Most states work off a formula where the amount each parent makes is input then the formula takes into account how many days a month the kid is with each parent. It is very fair. A lot of men don't take their kids for the majority time. The ones who do are more rare. Also men get remarried quicker ususally within the first year. Don't know if they are related.

I had a male friend moaning about his child support amount. I said uhhh......how many days a month are the kids with you?? He said a number, like 4 days I think. I said well right there's your problem. She is housing and feeding them more days. You either pay with your time or you pay with your wallet. He grumbled that he didn't want them anymore because he liked weekends to do single guy stuff. Nothing more to say.
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here is the problem I have with that "Oh I have the child most of the time that why I need that much money" when my exwife said that my reply was simple. "Give him to me" when she would call and complain about not having time to do this or that or the other "give him to me"

Time spent with a child has ZERO to do with the amount of money needed to care for that child. Zero. and that is a bull shit excuse women say. Trying to barter for time with the child's father and then wonder why.

My sister would complain that her ex husband didn't pay this or that so

"that's why he can't see the baby"

"how much his his child support"

"300 a month"

"So you are selling my nephew for 300 a month"

As important as it is to provide financially for a child its also important for the child to develop a relationship with his child ad this is NOT just the responsibly of the father but the mother as well.
 
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Ymra said:
here is the problem I have with that "Oh I have the child most of the time that why I need that much money" when my exwife said that my reply was simple. "Give him to me" when she would call and complain about not having time to do this or that or the other "give him to me"

Time spent with a child has ZERO to do with the amount of money needed to care for that child. Zero. and that is a bull shit excuse women say. Trying to barter for time with the child's father and then wonder why.

My sister would complain that her ex husband didn't pay this or that so

"that's why he can't see the baby"

"how much his his child support"

"300 a month"

"So you are selling my nephew for 300 a month"

As important as it is to provide financially for a child its also important for the child to develop a relationship with his child ad this is NOT just the responsibly of the father but the mother as well.
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At least in MA where I divorced, child support and visitation were completely separate issues. Even if he never paid support, like my ex, I could have gotten into trouble with the court if I withheld visitation.

What parents on both sides fail to realize is that both child support and visitation are FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CHILD. A child has a right to proper financial support from both parents. He or she also has the right to have a relationship with both parents.

In my case, my ex didnt pay support, but he saw his child regularly, in fact I gave him more time than the court mandated when he wanted it.

He's an asshole, however, who couldnt be bothered to even send a card or a call on my son's birthday or high school or college graduation, because that would "cost money." Eventually my son figured out his father's a jerk, and now has very limited contact with him. But it wasnt for ME to decide what their relationship should be, that was up to the two of them.
 
whikle said:
I think you're missing a vital link there... Endorsements are the fruit of an athlete's celebrity.

You're making the link from talent and labor directly to worth. In this case Worth is a product of celebrity, and celebrity is a product of talent and labor. You can't skip the middle man and say the worth is a product of the talent.

His talent is sought after and admired and this brings him to the forefront of the entertainment industry. It doesn't automatically mean his talent and labor is worth hundreds of millions in endorsements.

And of course I'm talking about worth in a monetary sense.
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Say what? His celebrity exists because he CAN PLAY GOLF. Period. Thats why the endorsements are there. No Golf ability, no $$$. Youre using semantics here. If he had a personality like Bob Hope and million dollar smile, he still has the win tournaments to sell shoes, Buicks and whatever else he puts his name on.
 
Ymra said:
here is the problem I have with that "Oh I have the child most of the time that why I need that much money" when my exwife said that my reply was simple. "Give him to me" when she would call and complain about not having time to do this or that or the other "give him to me"

Time spent with a child has ZERO to do with the amount of money needed to care for that child. Zero. and that is a bull shit excuse women say. Trying to barter for time with the child's father and then wonder why.

My sister would complain that her ex husband didn't pay this or that so

"that's why he can't see the baby"

"how much his his child support"

"300 a month"

"So you are selling my nephew for 300 a month"

As important as it is to provide financially for a child its also important for the child to develop a relationship with his child ad this is NOT just the responsibly of the father but the mother as well.
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TreePixie said:
At least in MA where I divorced, child support and visitation were completely separate issues. Even if he never paid support, like my ex, I could have gotten into trouble with the court if I withheld visitation.

What parents on both sides fail to realize is that both child support and visitation are FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CHILD. A child has a right to proper financial support from both parents. He or she also has the right to have a relationship with both parents.

In my case, my ex didnt pay support, but he saw his child regularly, in fact I gave him more time than the court mandated when he wanted it.

He's an asshole, however, who couldnt be bothered to even send a card or a call on my son's birthday or high school or college graduation, because that would "cost money." Eventually my son figured out his father's a jerk, and now has very limited contact with him. But it wasnt for ME to decide what their relationship should be, that was up to the two of them.
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unfortunately 99% of the women are not like you. to them the kids are bargaining tools. the women would rather be dragged to court before they let you see the kids because they know it will cost you money. The thing is men need to start taking them to court and say women will need to pay the court costs and atty fees along with jail time. you may not get all that (jail time) but that will scare the shit out of em. make sure you get the atty fees. I will say this no one want men to walk away in favor (financially) meaning you making them pay the atty fees and court costs because men are devalued in this soceity. if men get together and get legal issues like that done then it would prevent women from doing that shit. that is why men complain about Child support because we have to pay atty fees on top of seeing the kids to make women let us see the kids. that is why a lot of men kick womens asses because they pull that slick shit.
 
goodlove said:
unfortunately 99% of the women are not like you. to them the kids are bargaining tools. the women would rather be dragged to court before they let you see the kids because they know it will cost you money. The thing is men need to start taking them to court and say women will need to pay the court costs and atty fees along with jail time. you may not get all that (jail time) but that will scare the shit out of em. make sure you get the atty fees. I will say this no one want men to walk away in favor (financially) meaning you making them pay the atty fees and court costs because men are devalued in this soceity. if men get together and get legal issues like that done then it would prevent women from doing that shit. that is why men complain about Child support because we have to pay atty fees on top of seeing the kids to make women let us see the kids. that is why a lot of men kick womens asses because they pull that slick shit.
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Let's not lump almost 100% of women in this category, please.

I would say the number is far less. You only hear about the sh*tty women who pull that, of course, because those are the stories that are more interesting and spark debate.

My daughter's father was in that boat. He had a child with a woman he didn't marry. He was paying this woman (who didn't work and used their son as her "meal ticket") $500 a month (on his own, not court mandated) and he saw his son for FOUR HOURS A MONTH.

I started dating him and put a stop to that immediately. I told him if he's paying her that amount of money he needs to have his son every other weekend. It soon came to pass.

Then she started using his visitation as ways to extort money from him. That stopped immediately, too.

And now, he's been living with his Dad for several years and he's doing much better in school and actually has hopes of a bright future.

I do not get child support from my husband. When I go in front of a judge to finally get divorced, I will waive my right to child support, knowing full well I can't ask for it later on. Why? Because whilst I make less than him, if I ask for support, he'll lose the house. He helps me out in other ways (fixing my car, giving my car oil changes, etc) as well as giving me some of the money to help pay her camp and care when he can. That's all I ask.

And since the day I moved out, I made sure our daughter spends every other weekend with him. And she spends other time with him as well.

There are women out there that aren't complete bitches to their exes and who don't use their children as means to making more money.

Please stop using stupid numbers like 99% to describe a whole gender. That's just insane.
 
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goodlove said:
unfortunately 99% of the women are not like you. to them the kids are bargaining tools. the women would rather be dragged to court before they let you see the kids because they know it will cost you money. The thing is men need to start taking them to court and say women will need to pay the court costs and atty fees along with jail time. you may not get all that (jail time) but that will scare the shit out of em. make sure you get the atty fees. I will say this no one want men to walk away in favor (financially) meaning you making them pay the atty fees and court costs because men are devalued in this soceity. if men get together and get legal issues like that done then it would prevent women from doing that shit. that is why men complain about Child support because we have to pay atty fees on top of seeing the kids to make women let us see the kids. that is why a lot of men kick womens asses because they pull that slick shit.
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Like I said, in MA they are separate issues, and I could have been jailed if I withheld visitation. We were in and out of court on child support for two years until I gave up bothering, and he had a stack of contempt citations a mile high, but the court did little to actually enforce support. In fact, of the two issues, withholding visitation was seen as a far more serious issue (which I dont quite get - if I didnt feed my child I'd be guilty of neglect, and not paying support amounts to the same thing), as it's considered of utmost importance that the child maintain a relationship with both parents.
 
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