Elin now dating a white guy

[Max Mosley]

B. My movie ticket sales keep going up because they have to pay these actors exorbitant amounts of money just to say lines in a movie. Yes, I have a hard time with any actor making $20 million for a movie. That's insane.

The actors are worth $20 million because people like YOU say they are, with your pocket book.

 

[Bookworm616]

So the money is ONLY given if they meet performance requirements. And if they dont? I supposed fat cat owner is justified in your eyes to have a moral right to the money.(So long as he doesnt give it to any 'undeserving' young men)



See this is the problem I have with your WHOLE premise....

Its not your money.

How you get bonuses at your place of employment does not dictate the payroll practices of another business. The only person with a right to determine what an employee is paid is the person writing the check. As an adult old enough to die for his country, A young man has every right to accept what his employer feels he is worth to his business. He isnt subject to the whim of an outside individual who doesnt feel he earns his money.

I'm sorry. I made a suggestion. I didn't realize I needed to provide a business proposal showing where every bit of money is going that is made during any season of any professional sport.

Some of you all act as though we're trying to steal your money. LOL. Seriously, it was a THOUGHT, that's all.

And like I said, each player would start the season with a minimum salary: say $500K. After the season is over, they get bonuses dependent upon how they performed during the season, which will be written out beforehand and agreed upon by all parties involved.

And no, I don't think the owners should get the money that isn't paid out to the players at the end of the season.

Jeez, you all talk about women being emotional. I think some of you should check your emotions at the door to this thread. LOL.

 

[Iggy]

B. My movie ticket sales keep going up because they have to pay these actors exorbitant amounts of money just to say lines in a movie. Yes, I have a hard time with any actor making $20 million for a movie. That's insane.

Guys like Will Smith, Johnny Depp and Leonardo Dicaprio get these salaries because they are in high demand & put butts in the seats. Their salaries are completely justified like it or not. Christ, its not that hard to understand.

 

[Max Mosley]

I'm sorry. I made a suggestion. I didn't realize I needed to provide a business proposal showing where every bit of money is going that is made during any season of any professional sport.

Some of you all act as though we're trying to steal your money. LOL. Seriously, it was a THOUGHT, that's all.

Jeez, you all talk about women being emotional. I think some of you should check your emotions at the door to this thread. LOL.

Simply because you SAY, im being emotional, doesnt mean I am. Whos emotional, the person who feels an employee doesnnt "deserve" his income even though his employers says he does. Or the person trying to get you to understand the type of fundamental capitalism that the rest of the Western world has bought into?

And like I said, each player would start the season with a minimum salary: say $500K. After the season is over, they get bonuses dependent upon how they performed during the season, which will be written out beforehand and agreed upon by all parties involved.

And no, I don't think the owners should get the money that isn't paid out to the players at the end of the season.

So if The owners dont get the money...and the players dont deserve it, where does it go?

 

[The Dark King]

A. Luck is involved in many cases as far as who gets to the pros and who doesn't. For every actor/actress in Hollywood who makes it, there are tens of thousands who don't. For every athlete that makes it to the pros, there are tens of thousands of equally talented athletes who end up teaching at a sports arena or coaching little league. Not EVERY SINGLE PERSON with talent makes it.

B. My movie ticket sales keep going up because they have to pay these actors exorbitant amounts of money just to say lines in a movie. Yes, I have a hard time with any actor making $20 million for a movie. That's insane.

C. Because Tiger is one of many athletes that have had personal problems spill into their professional careers. It's only natural to give more examples.

D. I posted a link to an article that everyone ignored several pages back that basically said: Tiger is no fool and he got a lot for his money in the divorce.

A. When you're an athlete of TigerMs caliber not some third string point guard on the Wizards its not about luck. How can you argue that. You don't win by as much as he did and for as long as he did by luck.

C. The discussion wasn't about athletes bad decisions in media it was about many of you thinking that he didn't deserve his money as much as his wife did. Again if point D had been made from jump we wouldn't have needed all these pages.

 

[xoxo]

Another thread descends into the relative value of Black men and White women in relationships; one minute it's weight, the next it's social status. Mix that in with the non racial debate on divorce and it's a recipe for 50+ page thread now parsing the role of something as nebulous as luck. We've gone from belittling Elin's worth to that of Tiger "Lucky" Woods.

 

[Max Mosley]

Guys like Will Smith, Johnny Depp and Leonardo Dicaprio get these salaries because they are in high demand & put butts in the seats. Their salaries are completely justified like it or not. Christ, its not that hard to understand.

Replace Johnny Depp with Eric Roberts for 1/4 the pay and see how much money the movie company makes in net profit.

 

[xoxo]

A. When you're an athlete of TigerMs caliber not some third string point guard on the Wizards its not about luck. How can you argue that. You don't win by as much as he did and for as long as he did by luck.

The notion that chance plays a role in Tiger Woods life differently than it does for anyone of us is absurd, given that we all operate under such forces, to single Tiger out is to relegate the effort he (and others) put into his own formation.

 

[The Dark King]

The notion that chance plays a role in Tiger Woods life differently than it does for anyone of us is absurd, given that we all operate under such forces, to single Tiger out is to relegate the effort he (and others) put into his own formation.

Well they have to support their bs assertions some how lol

 

[TheHuntress]

Well they have to support their bs assertions some how lol

It's utterly and completely impossible for you to consider for one iota of a second that you might NOT be right about something, isn't it?

ETA- no matter how you respond, take a minute to look back at the way you've responded to everyone. You can't let anything go when it comes to $$$ and the worth of a human being in relation to if they're famous or not.

It irks me immensely.

 

[The Dark King]

It's utterly and completely impossible for you to consider for one iota of a second that you might NOT be right about something, isn't it?

ETA- no matter how you respond, take a minute to look back at the way you've responded to everyone. You can't let anything go when it comes to $$$ and the worth of a human being in relation to if they're famous or not.

It irks me immensely.

Um just a few posts ago I told bookie she was right and I was wrong. I never mind being wrong as long as there's a logical reason to me being wrong not emotion. I can't let anything go when it comes hypocritical bs. DB your entire argument revolves around women being better than men just because they have a uterus. And let me make this clear I have never nor will I ever value women. I value people.if you don't understand what I mean then get your college money back.

 

[TheHuntress]

Um just a few posts ago I told bookie she was right and I was wrong. I never mind being wrong as long as there's a logical reason to me being wrong not emotion. I can't let anything go when it comes hypocritical bs. DB your entire argument revolves around women being better than men just because they have a uterus. And let me make this clear I have never nor will I ever value women. I value people.if you don't understand what I mean then get your college money back.

No, my entire argument revolves around the fact that people are people and they do different things and have different purposes in life and you can't devalue someone simply because they can't hit a fucking ball into a little hole wearing a hat with a Nike swoosh on it.

If you can't understand THAT, then you need to get your college money back.

 

[The Dark King]

No, my entire argument revolves around the fact that people are people and they do different things and have different purposes in life and you can't devalue someone simply because they can't hit a fucking ball into a little hole wearing a hat with a Nike swoosh on it.

If you can't understand THAT, then you need to get your college money back.

Who was devalued?

 

[TheHuntress]

Who was devalued?

Elin.

 

[The Dark King]

Elin.

No she wasn't. I just think she was over valued. Many argued that she deserved 20 percent of his life earnings just because she had kids you included DB.
My issue was I don't get why having kids entitles her to that much, their her kids too. She benefits just as much as he does maybe even more so by them existing. They're not this life threatening chore deserving of compensation the way you've tried to paint it. Just saying...

 

[TERRASTAR18]

Sellout Rhetoric + Equating unapologetic attraction with subservience.



Used to getting their ass kissed? Certainly not on this forum...but we all know White women come with pedestals attached to their feet. Thankfully, "conscious" brothers like yourself are here to knock them off it.



At 21 years young, Elin, the daughter of a government official and journalist, gets a job nannying for a woman she befriended, yet from the discussion in this thread you would think this was her career.

She was under the employ of a pro golfer, and her previous station was no more or less than that of other wives of professional athletes. No doubt, if Tiger married a Black woman, and cheated on her with scores of trashy White women, you would be singing a different tune.

point 1- there are no generalizations i'm being very specific. i'm not talking about all bm/ww relationships. i'm talking about specific ppl on this forum, yourself specifically. and again not everyone in this forum.....

point2-again talking out of your ass to make an empty generalization. i was very specific. hence why tw is "lucky" and the wife deserves "it" as we heard throughut thread.

point3-elin is a nanny, tiger is the world's biggest athelete. that's not equal....bottomline. you act like if prince william married a nanny, for example, that you wouldn't be saying the same thing. tiger didn't marry her for her great conversatinal skills. elin, before she met tw, never did she sem that ambitious or driven. true point. so elin is a trophy wife, tw is financial security....

point4- you act like if elin was black, you would be defending her.....the burden of proof is on you, you are a frequent poster in all the anti bw threads, so the only one who has issues is yourself.

 

[TERRASTAR18]

trust me when i tell you that everytime...lebron or kobe get an endorsement...tracy mcgrady is sitting back calling them lucky bastards...along with a host of very talented basketball players that are not on a wheaties box...not in a nike commercial...not doing a car commercial...not sporting a new rolex...etc...

but again they have achievements, mcgrady doesn't.

 

[Max Mosley]

I want to extend an olive branch and make peace with you ladies after a spirited debate. Who knows, Kobe Bryant might stumble across this thread and be inspired enough to give half his money back to its rightful owner....Lakers owner Jerry Buss :smt002

 

[The Dark King]

but again they have achievements, mcgrady doesn't.

You can't win fam. Apparently achievement based on merrit is the same things is luck. Scoring 30 points on average a night is luck so is averaging 8 assists and 8 rebounds. Little fairies get into your sneakers everytime you jump so you can dunk but only the lucky ones. I love the entertainment lol

 

[TERRASTAR18]

You can't win fam. Apparently achievement based on merrit is the same things is luck. Scoring 30 points on average a night is luck so is averaging 8 assists and 8 rebounds. Little fairies get into your sneakers everytime you jump so you can dunk but only the lucky ones. I love the entertainment lol

i know so true, but it was worth a try.