Morning Star
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I try not to be mean, but she deserved it.
Oh no, not you too BBW.Both of you, to the corner RIGHT NOW and apologize.
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Oh no, not you too BBW.Both of you, to the corner RIGHT NOW and apologize.
lol I can tell by the tone of all your posts in reply to me are in a rude context. you still jury over me saying shut the fuck up that time huh. well I am sorry ok? I'm actually a nice dude. hope you take it![]()
Oh no, not you too BBW.Both of you, to the corner RIGHT NOW and apologize.
In ancient Greece, homosexuality was a given - men were *expected* to have male lovers.
The Greeks sorta came up with a few little ideas like democracy, which we laud, but we tend to overlook this fact.
Expected? Don't you mean took by force? Let's not pretty this up now. And since when is homosexuality 'a given"? Since when were men EXPECTED to HAVE male lovers?
And do you seriously thing Greeks invented democracy? Greeks may have formalized it, but didn't wake up and suddenly create it.
Asshole, did you EVEN bother reading the fucking information on that video? Here, I'll help you.
Clearly the video shows that bad parenting exists everywhere, regardless of where they are raised. But it's also anti-gay bias. I'm sticking to the damn topic, yet your stupid ass insist that I'm not. Look carefully and maybe you'll learn something.
("Bitch, please!?" lol @ u biting me when I called you that in the Casey thread)And for the record, your statement is clearly false because I criticize bad households period. Where did you get that shitty bit of info? From the doghouse? Bitch, please!
Look no further than the likes of Larry Craig and other politicians who have hid their sexual orientation from the masses because they would be outed and ostracized and the their voting is contrary to their personal hidden sex life. If you're ignoring something as simple as this, then you're too damn blind to see.
Yeah, echo the same nonsense other homophobic jackasses accuses me of and ignore the fact that unlike you, I'm consistent with equal rights for people and equality and equal treatment for people based on race, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation. And your crazy ass can't see that because you know damn well you're more likely to give stray dog with rabies the benefit of the doubt if it mauls an infant human to death. Grow the fuck up!
We as the human race will continue to trip up on our own heels if we do nothing to stop the hate.
NIts not like a heterosexual parent would be discussing homosexual group sex bath houses and influencing sexual behavior - if they did, DHS would take their child!
Not taken by force, it was a cultural expectation. Unusually for Wikipedia, they actually have a good, well footnoted piece on this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Greece
As for the roots of democracy, unless you are discussing tribal culture, there were some proto-democratic societies where councils of elders might be consulted by the king on certain issues, such as war (see: pre-Babylonian Mesopotamia), but western democracy itself as the idea of citizens electing representatives who *were* the government developed in Athens. It's thought that similar ideas were also developed in India in terms of gana; a raja and a deliberative assembly, but the evidence thus far is vague and inconsistent. Some historians feel these societies were more oligarchies or aristocracies rather than democracies as we understand the term.
No you're not sticking to it- all you're focusing on is the anti-gay portion. But its only natural it would be that by default, since she is disputing the notion that gays raising children is all innocent and flowers - got that?
("Bitch, please!?" lol @ u biting me when I called you that in the Casey thread)
You breifly criticized 'all' bad households ONLY to appease those critical of this girl's parent's bad treatment, so as not to appear "biased". Then you bashed those critical. And you NEVER ONCE have addressed the possibility that her fathers' homosexual lifestyles contributed to it. Its not like a heterosexual parent would be discussing homosexual group sex bath houses and influencing sexual behavior - if they did, DHS would take their child!
OMFG, who doesn't KNOW ALREADY about Larry Craig, and all those politicians and their gay life, or hooker life - WE DON'T NEED TO BE TOLD YET AGAIN! Holy crap. So are you SERIOUSLY using Larry Craig as the poster-child for people who don't vote pro-gay, but really are?
He clearly voted against because he is NOT supposed to let his private life influences his decisions on behalf of his constituents. Obviously you think HE SHOULD have, because you would have had you been the Senator. That's like saying Congressman Weiner should vote the allowance of adults sexting to tweens because he secretly did.
Oh woo is you - why are you denying your homosexuality? I thought you were pro-gay and proud and loud.
You're not consistent for equal anything, your agenda is self-serving. You claim complete support, but when it comes to your fellow animal and their rights, you're FUCK THEM, and encourage that they be tortured, abused, raped slaughtered, suffer and die. Cause you're BBW and you're bigger, better badder and more superior than all other and they are here only to serve your funky stanky cum filled ass. You'd rather support a degenerate that fights, hangs and electrocutes dogs for 'sport" because he's..human? Fuck off with your bile.
Greece (Athens) may have been the birthplace of democracy/ founders of democracy but understand that Africa is a mere boat's throw away and the cultures interacted. Greek books were found in the first ever University (in Timbuktu) and as such I can fairly assume the knowledge exchanges went both ways. So while I respect history, it is not always all encompassing. (think if our history were to be written today, if it would accurately portray us ALL as a people)
As for homosexuality, the wiki page noted there were no sexual identity labels, only the act of dominance (giving) and submission (receiving). This supports my theory of dominant men taking boys. It even cites in its hereto example of men in their 30's taking tween wives...again, the dominant aspect I speak of.
So the question I ask is - were 'all' those men who partook in homosexual behavior born that way or became that way via cultural influences. This is why I don't ascribe 100% to the theory that all men who have homosexual sex are gay. Look at prisons. (for both genders). Often its companionship and a desire to bust a nut. My male friend fucks both genders because he says he's a a freak for sex. How do you explain these people who have homosexual experiences, but are no intrinsically gay.
People are simply ignorant. Plain and simple. And they see things from a distance without really looking into it completely. I remembered a documentary on one of the prime time news shows in which there were two fathers raising twin daughters and you couldn't imagine how well educated these children were. Because of the parents, they've:
- Managed to skip a grade due to their home education at an early age.
- Speaks Spanish fluently at the age of 3 years old. (White family mind you)
- Pretty decent knowledge in botany.
Among all that, they are VERY cultured individuals and are raised in a loving household.
True it may work for some kids but the women in the video was obviously hurt cuz she felt her own femenimity was not being acknowledged. You are intelligent but you put too much faith in the assumptions and constructs of men my friend. Read the book of isaih.
True it may work for some kids but the women in the video was obviously hurt cuz she felt her own femenimity was not being acknowledged. You are intelligent but you put too much faith in the assumptions and constructs of men my friend. Read the book of isaih.
young bro you are going to really need to learn to approach a conversation in a way that you don't obviously think you are smarter than the other person because they think differently than. you every debate with you is "oh you just don't understand it that's why." as if your just some kind of enlightened person that's been given the right view on everything. while you are civil its very annoying. I guess I am just saying you don't respect other peoples ideas at all. you act flabbergasted that a person can actually not think the way you do on things. if I am wrong then my bad but you dam sure come across that way. also uh I am typing this on my phone so if it has typos don't judge me![]()
The whole video itself gives off the impression that it's presenting anti-gay fervor based on the interviews. That's pretty much the whole point of the video. Why are you so damn knuckle-headed to even see that? Watching the whole thing may have been about a bad experience, but there's a lot more to be considered.
A person's sexual orientation doesn't contribute to the "bad" upbringing, which you're horrendously mistaken. Show me any proof based on scientific evidence where gay parenting is harmful and I'll show you actual gay parents to prove you wrong. That's as bad as equating single parent households and interracial homes being considered bad for children to be raised in. A household with a good foundation is more consistent, but no you're fixated on their sexual orientation. Give me a damn break and stop being so childish.
If if if. If a drug addict Senator was presented with a bill that criminalizes drugs, should he sign it on behalf of his voters, or vote with his crack-pipe?Simply mentioning his name doesn't equate me using him as the poster child. He's one of the many examples who vote against his own personal conduct. If a law was presented in which he voted FOR which basically criminalized homosexuality and still do it, then it would tell you a major error in his career.
Wrong again. Politicians DO vote base on their personal convictions and it does coincide with their private lives. They represent the public and should reflect that not just on his policies and his personal life. If that were the case, then social issues like gay rights wouldn't be put on legislative tables at all and would be considered strictly personal freedoms. Contradictions...contradictions.
Yes, I'm pro-gay, as much as I'm pro-woman and other social areas. But, only a moron would equate that as me being gay. And lastly your piece of shit responses holds VERY little merit as I've said that I'm pro human rights for individuals, however, my consistency is that I'm NOT pro-life.
I never said life have intrinsic value in general nor would I consider it as such because value is personal and subjective. The only means of objectiveness on my part is that life is about survival as a whole and one person's treasure is another person's shit. You and I are both guilty of this. So go ahead back to your PETA quarters, put some puppy chow on your unwashed pussy and let a rabies infested rottweiler give you all the pleasure you need because your argumentative ass definitely need to stop thinking you're one of them.
And last, yes...I reaffirm that humans are at the top of the survival chain because we're smarter and significant in the evolution of society. We're selfish creatures, yet we also practice altruism. You're guilty of this as are everyone else on this planet.
Not quite sure why you think I'm dissing Africa. Egypt, Kush, there are a lot of very well known ancient cultures based there. We were specifically discussing democracy. If we had been discussing the roots Buddhism, we'd have been talking about India. Apples & oranges.
Yes, the did not there were no sexual orientation labels, which is sort of the point - those labels and the attendant baggage associated to them (like "gays shouldnt adopt kids) are *cultural*. They are not inherently true.
Kinsey would have said that we all exist on a line of 1-6 where bisexuality is concerned, with 1 being exclusively straight and 6 being exclusively homosexual. Most people, he posited, fall somewhere in the 2-5 range, which means they may very well have a strong orientation to one gender or the other, but that in certain circumstances they may find themselves involved with someone of a gender they'd normally not chose. (Additionally a lot of prison sex, from what I understand, is oriented more towards a dominance display than anything else).
My bisexual friends are bi not because they are "freaks for sex" but simply because they find themselves attracted to both men *and* women. They don't have any more sex or any more partners, than straight or gay people do.
I'm not saying you are dissing Africa, but you threw in Greece as the inventor of democracy (as if to say gays are being denied it, so really, your comment was actually apples and oranges). I was countering that Africa was more than likely, as the oldest civilization, the creator. The Greeks just modernized it.
So Kinsey says "Most people fall into 2-5 because "in certain circumstances they may find themselves involved with someone of a gender they'd normally not chose." How does he know?
Again...MOST PEOPLE? I call bullshit on that one. To actually BE INVOLVED/HAVE SEX with your same gender..is not most people's inclination. Some, fine. Most, no.
So fucken what if it is? We can all see the agenda - they don't hide it.
It will NEVER change the fact that "surprise" she didn't have a positive life based on her father's exposure to his lifestyle, no matter how much you try to deflect that point.
How is it we never hear the negative from the gay community?? If ANYONE from the gay community expressed reservations as do many heterosexuals organization who often bash heterosexual households (ex: single mother homes/absent fathers), I will stop right here.
Not orientation, where are you getting that from? It's behavior. Of course that can contribute. Why do you keep denying it?!
There is no special vacuum for gay households that absolves them from bad behavior which might be attributed to their lifestyle if exposed to children. Holy shit when did they become mother Teresa's. You keep wanting to deflect and bring other circumstances, when you again will not acknowledge that there are issues raised that directly correlate to their lifestyle. Do you see single mother's who happen to have single mother issues affecting their child get a pass by psychologists like you're giving this girl's father?? FUCK NO. Do some single mother's have household issues by being single? Hell yes! If a child is damaged by his/her lack of father, I won't discount it and carry on like you and say; "Oh but...but 2 parent households have problems, toooo". Take your head out of the sand, ostrich.
If if if. If a drug addict Senator was presented with a bill that criminalizes drugs, should he sign it on behalf of his voters, or vote with his crack-pipe?
You better believe they vote on what their voters demand, personal convictions be damned. See if they have a job next election if they do otherwise. For example, I'm positive there were legislatures who voted for gay marriage whom don't personally believe in it, but based on the overall feedback they got, it was one they were fine with approving. And vise versa on gay politico's voting for heterosexual bills.
You being gay is not based on this thread. I am still baffled as to why you feel its fine to deny your desire for men. Only a moron would keep denying it. And to think you bashed Larry Craig, lol. If you're gay, so be it. I don't think however you are entitled to special privileges for it and are not accountable for your behavior in all aspects of life.
What the fuck is "I'm pro-human rights but I'm NOT pro-life"??Youre a fake, a phoney and confused as you are your orientation. Your fellow animal is denied life in a brutal way because YOU say you're at the top. Arrogant much?
How are you the top of the chain when your bare hands or teeth can't compete with a tiger's? That's right, because you have a trap or knife or gun, which incidentally are NOT part of your human evolutionary chain.
Humans are significant in the evolution of society you say? What society is that...explain to me how we have evolved into better beings than our original forefathers who essentially respected the land and their fellow animals. You mean the one where building high rises in the desert is more important than feeding starving fellow humans in Sudan? That importance is the one you speak of. Is this the "life is about survival as a whole" mantra you preach? Pro my ass...Have you contributed to feeding them? or did you feed your own mouth today. Yep, air conditioning and driving from a-b, is so important to this planet (its actually destroying it) but we are so one with the earth...unlike animals, who pilfer it and build concrete jungles and depletes its water, food, and slaughter other animal,as it DOESN'T need, you know because their palate is bored and it comes packaged in Styrofoam.