Trayvon Martin's Murder

Why the fuck aren't you practicing law motherfuka. Great post.

Refugee said:
This is not a gun issue. This about a fat crazy fuck who wants to take matter in his own hands.

The Florida law is not a gun law. Period. It contains zero references to guns or shooting, unless you feel propagandistically compelled to count one of those ubiquitous legislative “Whereases” that references the Florida Constitution’s “right of the people to bear arms…”

"The Florida law is a self-defense, self-protection law:

It establishes that law-abiding residents and visitors may legally presume the threat of bodily harm or death from anyone who breaks into a residence or occupied vehicle and may use defensive force, including deadly force, against the intruder.

In any other place where a person “has a right to be,” that person has “no duty to retreat” if attacked and may “meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.”


Zimmerman was not in any danger or under any threat, he was the aggressor, he was the instigator, he was on offense NOT on deffense.
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the black men need to get that fat fuck ourselves....citzens arrest. on the way to the jail whip his mother fucking ass.
 
Refugee said:
This is not a gun issue. This about a fat crazy fuck who wants to take matter in his own hands.

The Florida law is not a gun law. Period. It contains zero references to guns or shooting, unless you feel propagandistically compelled to count one of those ubiquitous legislative “Whereases” that references the Florida Constitution’s “right of the people to bear arms…”

"The Florida law is a self-defense, self-protection law:

It establishes that law-abiding residents and visitors may legally presume the threat of bodily harm or death from anyone who breaks into a residence or occupied vehicle and may use defensive force, including deadly force, against the intruder.

In any other place where a person “has a right to be,” that person has “no duty to retreat” if attacked and may “meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.”

Zimmerman was not in any danger or under any threat, he was the aggressor, he was the instigator, he was on offense NOT on deffense.
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True. Zimmerman was attacking Trayvon regardless of what he says. The dispatcher tape says it all. The "Stand Your Ground" legislation is designed to empower vigilantism because it leaves a victim with no responsibility to remove themselves from a threat, but allows them instead to meet force with force. The standard in most states is that you may only use that force which is necessary to extricate yourself from the immediate danger, not to stand and slug/shoot it out. Deadly force is only allowed if viewed as necessary by a (and here's the rub) "reasonable standard", i.e. determined by the jury. Stack a jury with racists and all of a sudden viewing unarmed, retreating black children with good grades and athletic achievement as a dangerous threat suddenly becomes "reasonable".
 
Another hate crime from your friendly southern state.

STARKVILLE, Mississippi (Reuters) - A white Mississippi teenager pleaded guilty on Wednesday to fatally running over a man with a truck because he was black, and received a life prison sentence for a crime the presiding judge said left "a great stain" on the southern state.

Deryl Dedmon, 19, received two concurrent life sentences for the racially motivated murder of 49-year-old James Craig Anderson, who died after being beaten and mowed down in a motel parking lot last year.

Dedmon's admission that he killed Anderson because of his race doubled the teen's penalty under the state's hate crime statute.

"I was young, I was dumb, I was ignorant," Dedmon said during his court hearing in Jackson. "I was full of hatred."
 
LA said:
Straight bullshit.


I am certain that if that child were Larry Elder's, his choice of words would be much different.
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I can never understand dudes like him. Does he think kissing ass like this will get white people to love him? No honest logical black person can truly defend Zimmerman. The lady said it best "HE FOLLOWED HIM"
 
Interesting: I just caught the tail end on a radio news blurb that the Sanford Mayor is considering firing the Police Chief after the investigation is complete.
 
nocturnalmission said:
I just read about the same online....

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-ma...tor-asked-step/story?id=15974720#.T2rSStVN-8A
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Wow, the cops didn't eve bother to call the number on Tray's cell to even ask what they heard? They utterly failed and betrayed Tray.

I was thinking today...even a law enforcement officer who discharges their gun upon a civilian in self-defense...is expected to instantly surrender their gun for ballistics, is immediately taken off the streets and assigned to desk duty while an immediate and thorough investigation is conducted, and is drug and alcohol tested.
They didn't even test Zimmerman for D & A. They didn't take his gun from him ( I think) and they didn't take him in to be questioned. (I think)

In contrast, when a woman here in Philly killed a guy under the same law last month, (and he was a gun-toting criminal) even she was taken into the Station for questioning. Who trained these Sanford cops? Seriously.
 
Bliss said:
Wow, the cops didn't eve bother to call the number on Tray's cell to even ask what they heard? They utterly failed and betrayed Tray.

I was thinking today...even a law enforcement officer who discharges their gun upon a civilian in self-defense...is expected to instantly surrender their gun for ballistics, is immediately taken off the streets and assigned to desk duty while an immediate and thorough investigation is conducted, and is drug and alcohol tested.
They didn't even test Zimmerman for D & A. They didn't take his gun from him ( I think) and they didn't take him in to be questioned. (I think)

In contrast, when a woman here in Philly killed a guy under the same law last month, (and he was a gun-toting criminal) even she was taken into the Station for questioning. Who trained these Sanford cops? Seriously.
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I think they thought they were dealing with black teenage garbage. That no one would care and this would be swept under the rug and thought they were doing a Zimmerman a favor because it was easier to believe the live white man instead of wondering if the dead black kid was in the wrong.
They never imagined he was a decent kid who had a family that would actually fight for justice. I would love to see a lot of them fired.
 
Bliss said:
Wow, the cops didn't eve bother to call the number on Tray's cell to even ask what they heard? They utterly failed and betrayed Tray.

I was thinking today...even a law enforcement officer who discharges their gun upon a civilian in self-defense...is expected to instantly surrender their gun for ballistics, is immediately taken off the streets and assigned to desk duty while an immediate and thorough investigation is conducted, and is drug and alcohol tested.
They didn't even test Zimmerman for D & A. They didn't take his gun from him ( I think) and they didn't take him in to be questioned. (I think)

In contrast, when a woman here in Philly killed a guy under the same law last month, (and he was a gun-toting criminal) even she was taken into the Station for questioning. Who trained these Sanford cops? Seriously.
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From everything I've read about this case so far, Sanford PD blew it from the very beginning... Sending a Narc to investigate a homicide... The narc coaching and correcting witnesses... No BAT ... The list goes on... They had the tapes with the "cry for help" in the background that Zimmerman claims to be his voice... They never did a voice analysis and accepted his word as gospel. They claimed he had no criminal record... They apparently overlooked his assault on one of their own until news investigators "found" it out....

Sanford PD didn't want the truth. A real investigation would have pulled them away from their card game... Or maybe they considered Zimmerman one of the boys...

A young man's life ended needlessly and everything that ensued stinks of covering up their incompetence...
 
The Dark Knight said:
I think they thought they were dealing with black teenage garbage. That no one would care and this would be swept under the rug and thought they were doing a Zimmerman a favor because it was easier to believe the live white man instead of wondering if the dead black kid was in the wrong.
They never imagined he was a decent kid who had a family that would actually fight for justice. I would love to see a lot of them fired.
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Here's the thing though, if you listen to the 911 call, the things Zimmerman is saying about Tray, the way he willfully lies and falsely portrays him, to a dispatcher Tray sounds like a crazed drugged-out, menacing, "something" carrying, about-to-commit-a-crime took-off running-cause-he-was-guilty, criminal. (ironic huh, that the real and only menacing criminal was actually Zimmerman himself)....A cop arriving on the scene could easily be swayed to believe that Zimmerman just killed a criminal who assaulted him. Particularly since he kept exclaiming "self defense!" holding a bloody nose and head gash.

It wasn't until his family insisted their son was just an innocent kid, were they forced to even "consider" an innocent teen might have been killed. Now of course they've realized a defenseless, innocent teen was actually murdered - by a wild cowboy no less - and they are fucking reeling.
 
nocturnalmission said:
From everything I've read about this case so far, Sanford PD blew it from the very beginning... Sending a Narc to investigate a homicide... The narc coaching and correcting witnesses... No BAT ... The list goes on... They had the tapes with the "cry for help" in the background that Zimmerman claims to be his voice... They never did a voice analysis and accepted his word as gospel. They claimed he had no criminal record... They apparently overlooked his assault on one of their own until news investigators "found" it out....

Sanford PD didn't want the truth. A real investigation would have pulled them away from their card game... Or maybe they considered Zimmerman one of the boys...

A young man's life ended needlessly and everything that ensued stinks of covering up their incompetence...
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Yeah, that about sums it up...they figured he was just another dead black criminal #228 in FL, Next.
Let's clock out and go get a beer.
 
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