dude you are in bed with the tea party...thats extreme right.
he was all good with nugent wanting to murk obama (per him he was just joking. what a pussy)
Romney gave millions to charity. Biden gave $369
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dude you are in bed with the tea party...thats extreme right.
he was all good with nugent wanting to murk obama (per him he was just joking. what a pussy)
Morning Star
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Can you specify any particular cases that you don't agree with him at all? Social or Fiscal?
romnicare = obamacare (as the right wingers state)
after that he knows or cares
Morning Star
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I do recall that you define yourself as to the left on social issues like birth control, abortion...among other things. Care to break it all down for us so at least we can have SOME idea where you truly stand?
Morning Star
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jameswilson1
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I'm a fiscal conservative and a social moderate. I think Obama has handled the office of the president with dignity and I have no issues with him as a person. I just fundamentally don't agree with his economic and healthcare policies. He is taxing the American people into oblivion at a time when low and middle income people are stuggling. And I think he is a little too soft for me on foreign affairs. I don't think Romney is the perfect candidate, but I think he's the best option for our current situation. I think he would do a good job in cutting unnecessary spending and lowering taxes to help boost the economic recovery. His biggest political issues will be proving he can be tough on foreign affairs and showing differences between Romneycare and Obamacare.
Ol'Skool Classic
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What's this? Someone here has identified themselves as having conservative leanings and is not being attacked by the narrow minded progressive leaning black savages on this forum??? How could this be??? Could it be because people here don't care what each others ideologies are as long as you express yourself and your opinions in a respectful, rational and adult manner like this individual has done??? Food for thought for some folks here who like using the "people here are closed mined" card.
Mighty Quinn
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Republican controlled states are veritable welfare states compared to blue states.
And rich people often give to charity for the handsome write offs.
samson1701
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I cannot, for the life of me, understand why any working class American could like conservative fiscal policies. It makes about as much sense as kidnapping victim defending his or her captor.
Conservatism does not work for the working man. History has shown us that much.
Conservatism does not work for the working man. History has shown us that much.
Ol'Skool Classic
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Because the American Dream of work hard and you will one day achieve a greater and better life for you and yours has been perverted to obscene levels of the ridiculous.
The Dark King
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The rich are spending the least on tsx in the history of this country's history. How low fo ypu people want it!
Mighty Quinn
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Hey sarcasm, meet reading comprehension.
The Dark King
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Don't waste your intelligence on him my friend. Paniro is just a good cautionary tale at this point.
orejon4
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I'm interested in these specious (in my opinion) claims of excessive taxation. The USA has one of the lowest tax rates in the industrialized world, coupled with a tax code that is so complicated that it allows corporations and high-income individuals to pay even less than the already low rates through skillful use of accountants and attorneys. And yet, the US economy is more dysfunctional at present than 'high-tax' Germany, France and the exorbitantly taxed Scandinavian countries. If low tax rates were correlated with economic growth that would tend to support greater economic activity in lower-taxed regions.
Thus, by that reasoning all of the EU (with the exception of tax havens like Andorra and the smaller principalities) should have worse economic activity levels than the US, and the only places on earth that outperform the USA should be no-tax corporate paradises like the Cayman Islands, Bahamas, offshore special export zones and the wild west environments of some developing countries, where they literally allow multinationals to dictate their policies to them. And yet, this is not the case at present. Why? Is there perhaps some intangible benefit that firms are receiving from the US that they are groaning about paying for even as they export further jobs? Could it be the taxpayer-funded USA-imposed global economic and trading order that is largely backed up and policed by US and Western European taxpayer-funded military might? The largely US and UK-structured international securities markets? The globally taxpayer-funded public education systems that provide skilled workers instead of illiterate feudal serfs?
Could it be that the economic doldrums this nation (and by extension much of the world) is experiencing at present have nothing to do with high tax rates, the undeserving global poor and 'liberals', and instead EVERYTHING to do with the rapaciousness of the international financial class, banks and their deliberate skewing of the world financial markets by creating and trading in essentially valueless derivatives rather than in underlying productive activities? Is it possible that all of this was done by them simply to create a device to trade (regardless of its actual value) simply to boost profits? Is it possible that they are simply trying to (much like the current political discourse about the undeserving poor) get something (money) for nothing (a specious market in an invented good that does very little for the real economy of productive activities except destabilize it) simply to get a handout? Perhaps, just perhaps, they are the truly undeserving.
Thus, by that reasoning all of the EU (with the exception of tax havens like Andorra and the smaller principalities) should have worse economic activity levels than the US, and the only places on earth that outperform the USA should be no-tax corporate paradises like the Cayman Islands, Bahamas, offshore special export zones and the wild west environments of some developing countries, where they literally allow multinationals to dictate their policies to them. And yet, this is not the case at present. Why? Is there perhaps some intangible benefit that firms are receiving from the US that they are groaning about paying for even as they export further jobs? Could it be the taxpayer-funded USA-imposed global economic and trading order that is largely backed up and policed by US and Western European taxpayer-funded military might? The largely US and UK-structured international securities markets? The globally taxpayer-funded public education systems that provide skilled workers instead of illiterate feudal serfs?
Could it be that the economic doldrums this nation (and by extension much of the world) is experiencing at present have nothing to do with high tax rates, the undeserving global poor and 'liberals', and instead EVERYTHING to do with the rapaciousness of the international financial class, banks and their deliberate skewing of the world financial markets by creating and trading in essentially valueless derivatives rather than in underlying productive activities? Is it possible that all of this was done by them simply to create a device to trade (regardless of its actual value) simply to boost profits? Is it possible that they are simply trying to (much like the current political discourse about the undeserving poor) get something (money) for nothing (a specious market in an invented good that does very little for the real economy of productive activities except destabilize it) simply to get a handout? Perhaps, just perhaps, they are the truly undeserving.
The Dark King
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I admire your intelligence and candor my friend but such well thought out logical arguments are lost on the ignorant assholes of the world who prefer to spit anti-liberal GOP supported rhetoric that doesn't help them at all.
They truly believe supporting the "job creators" will benefit even though ALL the evidence says otherwise. Companies are making historical profits and what are they doing with it? Either sitting on it or investing in countries like Brazil, India, or China. So this ridiculous loyalty only divides the people while they get richer. Part of me wants Romney to win so these fucking idiot babies can have their way and when it all goes to utter shit they'll only have themselves to blame.
orejon4
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Hitting the hay, got an exam in the morning, then El Clasico at 1p.m. Go Barça!!!! Talk to you all tomorrow, peace!
Ol'Skool Classic
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How in the hell are you trying to front on being better than others and supposedly "rising the ladder of success" when your reading ,expression and basic comprehension skills are all negative 100 on the comprehension scale?
Ol'Skool Classic
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This. :smt023
