Do you believe in the Afterlife?

Do you believe in the afterlife?

  • Yes, it's real.

    Votes: 25 61.0%

  • No.

    Votes: 9 22.0%

  • I cannot say. I'll know for sure once I cease to function.

    Votes: 7 17.1%
  • Total voters
    41
The Dark King said:
Remove the religious doctrine. How can we be sure that its all bs. Especially when we haven't experienced death. The only to say for sure would be to experience it right?
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I don't think you understand my friend. I am the Way The Truth And The Light. I was immaculately conceived to bring you the truth. So, when I say that there isn't an afterlife I know because I am the lord.
 
luvattractivewomen said:
I don't think you understand my friend. I am the Way The Truth And The Light. I was immaculately conceived to bring you the truth. So, when I say that there isn't an afterlife I know because I am the lord.
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Oh really? Then please explain string theory for me in simplistic terms. The shit has been wracking my brains for years lol
 
justmel said:
The point of life is to grow and learn and help as many others along the way you can.

It is just my opinion, but I believe we are all on a process of learning and we all have different things to learn, chemical imbalances, etc. I never said life was fair. In my belief, when we leave this earth we are finally our true perfect selves. The reason to be good to people, besides the fact that you want to treat other people the way you want them to treat you is the fact that you do know right and wrong. I have experienced some unpleasant situations including being hit by a drunk driver and losing loved ones instantly and not being in a safe environment as a child. Do I think these people should go to heaven? If they are truly sorry, yes. I get that you don't see life the way I do but we will just have to agree to disagree.
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What if you do the opposite and kill and kill? does something happen?
 
In the very simplest fact of science: Energy don't cease to exist, it gets transferred. If anything dies, that energy goes somewhere else, so that, is life after death if you ask me. You are made out of molecules and those molecules gets reused

That is the simplest you can go and it is STILL life after death either way you choose to interpret that. I could go more philosophically on that, but I wont.
 
FG said:
In the very simplest fact of science: Energy don't cease to exist, it gets transferred. If anything dies, that energy goes somewhere else, so that, is life after death if you ask me. You are made out of molecules and those molecules gets reused

That is the simplest you can go and it is STILL life after death either way you choose to interpret that. I could go more philosophically on that, but I wont.
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Please do I'd like to hear it
 
The Dark King said:
Interesting topic MS. I do believe consciousness does exist beyond what we percieve as death. I personally dont know since I have not experienced death but a Ive seen too much to think we are at a point in science to truly concieve the nature of the universe. Its constantly changing, even our definition of death has changed. Its not just brain dead anymore. What we experience after what we consider life is done os definitely up in the air but I do think its something. Nothingness doesnt make sense to me.
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This, but I also believe your direction in the afterlife is related to how highly elevated your conciousness is in this life as well as the positive or negative energy you exert.
 
The Dark King said:
I've considered that too but what happens to the energy once we die. Does it all go into the ether?
Then I also question the multiple versions of ourselves spanned out over multiple dimensions.
So many theories to consider. Well I guess there will come a point when we all can stop wondering and find out for ourselves.
I do find it interesting how many people side with the idea that there's nothing. I wonder what's behind that thought pattern.
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Has me wondering too, my only guess is that a lot of people are tired of the explanations that are not scientific like immaculate conception.
 
archangel said:
What if you do the opposite and kill and kill? does something happen?
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My belief is that people who behave in this way are not mentally sound and therefore their punishment are the consequences of their actions. Just like If I commit a crime, I go to jail etc..Someone who is extremely violent, hateful, hurtful are not sound so once they leave this earth and they are their perfect selves they would never behave that way. I know I believe very differently from you but that is still exactly what I think.
 
I'm not religious so I don't believe in heaven and hell and all that, but I am very spiritual and I believe that life is when our soul, wich is made of energy, gets in a material body... the way it gets in the body with birth, that same way it leaves the body with the death and I think the soul just goes back and unites with the universe, until it's time for a new reincarnation. So yes, I kinda believe in afterlife.
 
FG said:
In the very simplest fact of science: Energy don't cease to exist, it gets transferred. If anything dies, that energy goes somewhere else, so that, is life after death if you ask me. You are made out of molecules and those molecules gets reused

That is the simplest you can go and it is STILL life after death either way you choose to interpret that. I could go more philosophically on that, but I wont.
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That is energy after death. That is not life after death. Otherwise we are playing god when we use the clapper.
 
FG said:
In the very simplest fact of science: Energy don't cease to exist, it gets transferred. If anything dies, that energy goes somewhere else, so that, is life after death if you ask me. You are made out of molecules and those molecules gets reused

That is the simplest you can go and it is STILL life after death either way you choose to interpret that. I could go more philosophically on that, but I wont.
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Interesting FG.

As someone who is very naturally inclined, I often think why do human beings think we go to a heaven or hell.

Do other forms of life go there, dog, cat, lion, wildebeest, cheetah, leopard, etc.

Yes human beings are a higher evolved species of life form, but nonetheless, I feel natural law applies to us when all is said and done and religion as we know it has evolved over time, its not like from day one, we believed in some uniform concept.

Hindus believe in multiple Gods, some religions have come and gone, the Mayans, Aztecs and Incas had their own belief systems before Christianity came to the New World.

The reality is as human beings we would like to think we will live on in some way and that this isn't the end for us when we depart the physical body we have on Earth and so we create this higher being with omnipotent powers that oversee us and all our actions with a paradise awaiting us after death.

We shall all find out one day.
 
The Dark King said:
Interesting topic MS. I do believe consciousness does exist beyond what we percieve as death. I personally dont know since I have not experienced death but a Ive seen too much to think we are at a point in science to truly conceive the nature of the universe. Its constantly changing, even our definition of death has changed. Its not just brain dead anymore. What we experience after what we consider life is done os definitely up in the air but I do think its something. Nothingness doesnt make sense to me.
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On point.

I quit asking if there's life after death and instead wonder if there's consciousness once we die. That's what it really comes do to IMO.

Neurosurgeon John Lerma has written Into the Light on his experience from patients retelling stories of visions of the afterlife and near death experiences.
More MDs than many would think are coming around to believing the concept of an afterlife isn't solely a religious concept.
 
GQ Brotha said:
Interesting FG.

As someone who is very naturally inclined, I often think why do human beings think we go to a heaven or hell.

Do other forms of life go there, dog, cat, lion, wildebeest, cheetah, leopard, etc.

Yes human beings are a higher evolved species of life form, but nonetheless, I feel natural law applies to us when all is said and done and religion as we know it has evolved over time, its not like from day one, we believed in some uniform concept.

Hindus believe in multiple Gods, some religions have come and gone, the Mayans, Aztecs and Incas had their own belief systems before Christianity came to the New World.

The reality is as human beings we would like to think we will live on in some way and that this isn't the end for us when we depart the physical body we have on Earth and so we create this higher being with omnipotent powers that oversee us and all our actions with a paradise awaiting us after death.

We shall all find out one day.
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Good question!! We live on the same planet as these animals, these animals do not have the same level of awareness as we do. Also these animals are not capable of obtaining the same level of awareness as we can in this lifetime. Throughout life, our level of awareness is elevated through learning and comprehension, by using our senses and intellegence. Still we live in a virtual reality because there is so much going on in the universe that we are unaware of. Based on the theory that the consciousness lives on, most of the people on this planet will be in a higher state of awareness in the afterlife than these animals because when we die our awareness is a higher state. Do we go to the same physical place?? Does it really matter when awareness is what makes the world of difference?? To me place=awareness
 
andreboba said:
On point.

I quit asking if there's life after death and instead wonder if there's consciousness once we die. That's what it really comes do to IMO.

Neurosurgeon John Lerma has written Into the Light on his experience from patients retelling stories of visions of the afterlife and near death experiences.
More MDs than many would think are coming around to believing the concept of an afterlife isn't solely a religious concept.
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Exactly. Dogma must be removed. It seems to be the biggest barrier
 
Beasty said:
Good question!! We live on the same planet as these animals, these animals do not have the same level of awareness as we do. Also these animals are not capable of obtaining the same level of awareness as we can in this lifetime. Throughout life, our level of awareness is elevated through learning and comprehension, by using our senses and intellegence. Still we live in a virtual reality because there is so much going on in the universe that we are unaware of. Based on the theory that the consciousness lives on, most of the people on this planet will be in a higher state of awareness in the afterlife than these animals because when we die our awareness is a higher state. Do we go to the same physical place?? Does it really matter when awareness is what makes the world of difference?? To me place=awareness
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Very good point, for example there is a whole world beneath us that we know next to little about.

I've often heard the remark that man knows more about out of space than they do about the depths of the ocean.

While humans have the greatest learning and comprehension capacity, we know of course that other animals are also very intelligent.

Elephants, chimpanzees for example. Many feel these animals possess the capacity of emotions and ability to learn.

I mean look at elephant society and how a matriarch takes responsibility for the entire herd as they rely on her to lead them to water, something she learned from a prior matriarch.

Could it be that man has evolved to such a point that we need the concept of God and an afterlife as a mechanism of self regulation in nature against our own worse evils.

I mean we believe in God and still do these horrible things to each other, imagine if we didn't have the notion of a spiritual deity that will punish us even worse in the afterlife for such actions.
 
GQ Brotha said:
Very good point, for example there is a whole world beneath us that we know next to little about.

I've often heard the remark that man knows more about out of space than they do about the depths of the ocean.

While humans have the greatest learning and comprehension capacity, we know of course that other animals are also very intelligent.

Elephants, chimpanzees for example. Many feel these animals possess the capacity of emotions and ability to learn.

I mean look at elephant society and how a matriarch takes responsibility for the entire herd as they rely on her to lead them to water, something she learned from a prior matriarch.

Could it be that man has evolved to such a point that we need the concept of God and an afterlife as a mechanism of self regulation in nature against our own worse evils.

I mean we believe in God and still do these horrible things to each other, imagine if we didn't have the notion of a spiritual deity that will punish us even worse in the afterlife for such actions.
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Another good question, I have thought about that too somethimes. A lot of principles taught by religions run parallel to meta physics. A lot of us do not need to believe in a religion to practice some of the principles that are simply indicative of living a good life. I follow the golden rule without beliveing everything that is in the bible; however I think some people would not even try to follow the same principle if they did not believe they were going to burn in a lake of fire for their sins, or the concept of a savior. Religion has a purpose, even though I don't follow it, some people need it!! lol
 
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