Trayvon Martin's Murder

[archangel]

Ah, ok, got it.

Yes, in PA, we have the Castle Doctrine also.

And I read there is now in Oregon....this...

Story: Grandma-organizes-glock-block-to-shoot-neighborhood-criminals

So yes, there IS a 'fed-up' mentality. I can see perhaps (the jury's) view being pro-gun, but at the same time, they are pro-protection. And that night, Trayvon needed protection from GZ.

That's how I would see it, anyway.

yes, but the defense could point to the injuries from zimmerman. He did suffer the worse out of the two(before the gun got involved).

I just have a hard time seeing all of the jury convicting him. If they do, I'll be happy.

Honestly, you can't convict someone on thoughts in their head(possible prejudice due to media sterotypes of black men.) There may be hope if the prosecutor pushes the idea that zimmerman was stalking the kid.

 

[The Dark King]

Was there evidence that TM actually hit him like blood on his shirt or is it all hear say from Zimmerman. The most difficult thing about this is the person supposedly responsible is dead.

 

[Bliss]

Was there evidence that TM actually hit him like blood on his shirt or is it all hear say from Zimmerman. The most difficult thing about this is the person supposedly responsible is dead.

I recall something about evidence of Tray's knuckles....this was the most basic info on it I could find that they took from an ABC report..

By Ben Shapiro 15 May 2012

The medical report from George Zimmerman’s family doctor after the Trayvon Martin shooting shows that Zimmerman’s nose was broken; he also had a pair of black eyes, two lacerations on the back of his head, a bruised upper lip, and a back injury. He was examined by the doctor the day after the shooting. The three-page medical report will likely be used as evidence for the defense.

Meanwhile, the Trayvon Martin autopsy shows that other than his gunshot wound, the only injury on Martin was that the skin on his knuckles was broken.

I'm sure this will be hammered in by the Defense.

 

[Bliss]

Any competent defense lawyer would ask you what law did Zimmerman commit by following Martin? What crime did he start with the situation? By following him? You're allowed to do that. By ignoring a dispatcher? You can do that.

And he would also object to the prosecution asking the jury to put themselves into someone elses shoes....you're not allowed to ask them to make that presumption.

And obviously, you can't prove that every black person in Seminole County participated in the protests. But you can be damned sure that they were EXPOSED to it in some fashion. That leads to them being tainted.

@ 1st paragraph: You are right, you are allowed to do all those things.

But we don't know if Zimmerman put his hands on Tray or not, that caused Trayvon to defend himself. Like TDK said, with no witnesses, the only person who knows the story too, is dead.

@ 2nd paragraph: True, the defense would object, but the prosecutor can still ask. It will just be struck from the record.

@ 3rd paragraph: But so too were white people exposed. So they are also tainted, no? (none of us can really say which way, either - for any race)
I would think also, women would relate to Trayvon's fear, not to Zimmerman's following. His stalking is every woman's fear, first. As a woman, I'd rather PASS a Black teen with skittles the street, than have a WM FOLLOW me.

 

[goodlove]

@ 1st paragraph: You are right, you are allowed to do all those things.

But we don't know if Zimmerman put his hands on Tray or not, that caused Trayvon to defend himself. Like TDK said, with no witnesses, the only person who knows the story too, is dead.

@ 2nd paragraph: True, the defense would object, but the prosecutor can still ask. It will just be struck from the record.

@ 3rd paragraph: But so too were white people exposed. So they are also tainted, no? (none of us can really say which way, either - for any race)
I would think also, women would relate to Trayvon's fear, not to Zimmerman's following. His stalking is every woman's fear, first. As a woman, I'd rather PASS a Black teen with skittles the street, than have a WM FOLLOW me.

logic doesnt follow iggy I mean stumper. he thinks every black person is guilty until proven guilty and all black people are tainted


latest on zimmerman. his wife arrested on perjury

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt...rested&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-900

 

[The Dark King]

logic doesnt follow iggy I mean stumper. he thinks every black person is guilty until proven guilty and all black people are tainted


latest on zimmerman. his wife arrested on perjury

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt...rested&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-900

I wonder if this will hurt his case at all.

 

[goodlove]

I wonder if this will hurt his case at all.

If im a juror and read this (most people would have known bout them lying about the money prior to this because it was reported).....they will say he is a liar. If he lied about this small thing surely he lied about shooting someone. Iggy i mean david duke i mean stumper will cosign zimmerman regardless

 

[Stumper]

logic doesnt follow iggy I mean stumper. he thinks every black person is guilty until proven guilty and all black people are tainted


latest on zimmerman. his wife arrested on perjury

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt...rested&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-900

Just see your way out of this thread dude....anything that involves complex ideas, cognitive exercise and critical thinking is not your strong suit. Go back your amazing threads, which include "anal hazing," and "booty packing the jeans."

 

[Bliss]

logic doesnt follow iggy I mean stumper. he thinks every black person is guilty until proven guilty and all black people are tainted

You think? Hmmm, Not getting the complete vibe Stumper is Iggy...Iggy's vocabulary range was *sniff* limited. But he certainly could be...Speaking of which, I did fleetingly get the vibe that new Pheonix dude might be Iggy. Meh, who knows. Iggy's profiler is no doubt on the case!

 

[Bliss]

latest on zimmerman. his wife arrested on perjury

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt...rested&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-900

Goodlove my good man, this is not 'the latest" on Zimmerman". It is one year old news, did you forget?
In fact, the date is right there in your own link, JUNE 2012. Your 'BREAKING NEWS" source can not be behind one year, mate, c'mon! :?
(btw, you did this before, posting as new, a yr-old "GOP-IR vote" story thread I had previously made, and you had even replied 5x in).

Apparently like with that one, you forgot you replied to it, lol.

TRAYVON thread:

Zimmerman's wife arrested, accused of perjury

06-12-2012, 05:46 PM

George Zimmerman's wife was arrested Tuesday afternoon for allegedly lying at his bond hearing about the couple's finances.

Shellie N. Zimmerman, 25, faces a perjury charge, according to Jackie Barnard, spokeswoman for the State Attorney's office for the Fourth Judicial District of Florida.

...She was being held on a $1,000 bond.

Her husband, 28, is accused in the February shooting death of Trayvon Martin, 17, in Sanford.

George Zimmerman had been free on bond for weeks until June 3, when he turned himself in to authorities in Seminole County.

In April, Zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder after the case was referred to a state attorney for a review. He was released from custody later that month after posting bail.

But on June 1, Seminole County Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. ordered Zimmerman back to jail, accusing the suspect of not being truthful about how much money he had access to when his bond was set months earlier.

At the time, his wife told the court under oath that the family was indigent. But prosecutors alleged that Zimmerman had $135,000.

Shellie Zimmernan will be arraigned July 31

http://www.click2houston.com/news/Z...jury/-/1735978/14790532/-/a2qams/-/index.html

Your reply

she is a ride and die chick

Time to ketchup!

 

[Bliss]

With opening arguments to begin tomorrow..

An apparent blow to the Prosecution, it is being said.

George Zimmerman trial: Audio experts not allowed to testify on 911 call, judge rules

The judge in the murder trial of George Zimmerman said Saturday that prosecution audio experts who point to Trayvon Martin as screaming on a 911 call moments before he was killed won't be allowed to testify at trial.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...-murder-trial-article-1.1379921#ixzz2X3dNS2VN

It could also be a blow to Zimmerman, since he has insisted it was him screaming. I can see why the judge said neither will testify.

The jury will however, get to hear it so they may be able to decipher. It is their right to interpret the call, no matter whether an expert is allowed to tell them who it is or not. (Recalling the screams, they sounded to me like a terrified almost high-pitched/young voice.)

 

[Stumper]

The latest news on the Titanic...

 

[Stumper]

Today in testimony....

The prosecution is supposed to be calling witnesses to bolster its case against one, George Zimmerman.

So far, they have called two such witnesses, after which being cross examined, looked more favorable for the DEFENSE, instead the prosecution. One prosecution witness was completely ripped to shreds, and that's to be nice.

The state needs to get it's friggin act together.

 

[goodlove]

Goodlove my good man, this is not 'the latest" on Zimmerman". It is one year old news, did you forget?
In fact, the date is right there in your own link, JUNE 2012. Your 'BREAKING NEWS" source can not be behind one year, mate, c'mon! :?
(btw, you did this before, posting as new, a yr-old "GOP-IR vote" story thread I had previously made, and you had even replied 5x in).

Apparently like with that one, you forgot you replied to it, lol.

TRAYVON thread:

Your reply


Time to ketchup!

doh.....LOL

 

[goodlove]

The latest news on the Titanic...

My negroe understands the good old days. Now, Stumper go fetch me some water.

stumper is a good negroe. he knows his place. he is a great waiter. look at him git.

 

[Stumper]

The states witness, who is being ripped apart right now, just admitted to liking a "justice4trayvon" group on FB.

 

[goodlove]

what the crime scene technichian and the neighborhodd watch coordinator...is that who you are referring too?

 

[Bliss]

Yeah Stumper, tell us who it is, how are we supposed to know? That way if it's a personal witness, it's understandable..Now if it's a professional, then that is questionable/conflict of interest. Unless it's a law enforcement witness, then it's justifiable. Why would they role for the victim's killer, they work for the prosecution.

 

[goodlove]

Yeah Stumper, tell us who it is, how are we supposed to know? That way if it's a personal witness, it's understandable..Now if it's a professional, then that is questionable/conflict of interest. Unless it's a law enforcement witness, then it's justifiable. Why would they role for the victim's killer, they work for the prosecution.

I thinkl he is talking about yesterdays witnesses

 

[Stumper]

Goodlove...

I'm not you and post shit from over a year ago and pretend that it's current and relevant, then proceed to play dumb when I'm called out on it.

I'm talking about the Neighborhood Watch supervisor lady and the Selene Bahadoor...the states first witness who "heard" and "saw" what happened, and was called out on it by the defense. The defense then went on a complete assault and afterwards, she hurt the credibility of the prosecution very, very badly.