Trayvon Martin's Murder

[Ol'Skool Classic]

Let him be he'll find out he's black soon enough especially living in Florida.
If he wants to pretend that if shit went down he'd be treated fairly let him.

I've said it before, I've never encountered any shit like this with any black people on any level ever in my life until coming to this site. The shit is nuts.

 

[jaisee]

Do you honestly think that anyone of us here won't do what was necessary to save our own lives or the lives of our loved ones if we found ourselves being viciously assaulted by another person?

Conveniently, Arch asks us to:

Let us move past the profiling, and past the stalking and past the assailants age....Let us put our selves at the moment of truth, he is sitting on your chest and handling his business.............

Because it is the profiling and the stalking that got GZ in a situation where he had Trayvon sitting on his chest and handling his business. It is when GZ's acts that led to Trayvon defending himself turned around on GZ that he ended up in a situation where he then defended himself by shooting Trayvon.

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

That's some good ass crack you smoking, huh?

 

[jaisee]

where's my stretch arm strong pic

I dunno... Up your ass?

Feel free to point out the stretch in my post.

 

[jaisee]

.....Yes, I like to see Black exellence...I can't join you in the excuse making.....I believe we should strive for perfection....

You may be the weirdest poster on these forums in a long time. I believe that you like to see black excellence, but you do so from a position of villainizing black people whilst being apologetic for non-blacks.

But, you have a role to play. In every single thread like this, you have a role to play. God forbid you deviate from that and try to think outside your little soap box for once.

 

[jaisee]

Upset?

Do you *honestly* think you could possibly have such an effect on me?

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

.....Yes, I like to see Black exellence...I can't join you in the excuse making.....I believe we should strive for perfection....

So because I & others here don't share your particular view of the world on how our people should strive to be the best they can be we are making excuses? And how did you come to this particular extreme leap in logic? Everyone of us here has made something of ourselves and may not have gone about it in the way you have or believe all black people should, so how is your way the only & correct way to go about achieving excellence for our people?

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

You may be the weirdest poster on these forums in a long time. I believe that you like to see black excellence, but you do so from a position of villainizing black people whilst being apologetic for non-blacks.

But, you have a role to play. In every single thread like this, you have a role to play. God forbid you deviate from that and try to think outside your little soap box for once.

I was being civil with my reply...but ..THIS.

 

[jaisee]

So if someone's ideas are different from yours THEY are the ones that a close minded and living in a box. But if I stand up and beat my chest along with you I'm sure I'm a open minded fella that's sees the world for what it really is huh?

Do you know what a straw man argument is?

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

So if someone's ideas are different from yours THEY are the ones that a close minded and living in a box. But if I stand up and beat my chest along with you I'm sure I'm a open minded fella that's sees the world for what it really is huh?

Here's the thing: You & Archman are closed minded. You belittle & disrespect anyone or anything that does line up with your views all the while demanding that others respect your views. The fact that you always try to paint everyone with some kind of negative label & Archman saying everyone not on board with your particular line of thinking are making excuses is proof of that. You want respect then give it.

 

[Mikey]

Charles Barkley is an ignorant buffoon.

The one aspect most people continually ignore in this case, which excuses ALL OF TRAYVON MARTIN'S ACTIONS DIRECTED TOWARDS GEORGE ZIMMERMAN, is how terrifying and how much of a mind fuck it is when you're being FOLLOWED at NIGHT by a stranger in a car, who then gets out and chases you on foot.

How the fuck is a normal person going to think this is a non-confrontational situation??:roll:

'There's a stranger who's been following me for several blocks, but I trust in my heart he's got good intentions.'

When I was 11 years old I had two people in a van drive along side me for about 10-15 seconds in my apartment complex, telling me to come here 'cause they wanted instructions. This was in broad daylight right after school.
I was nervous but I eventually stopped, never moving from the sidewalk.
Suddenly the side door on that van SWUNG WIDE OPEN. They kept telling me to come here kid, etc. I was frozen scared out of mind and eventually they sped off.

Being followed by a stranger at night is RARELY a safe situation. I don't care who you are.

If some of you don't think being followed at night is a big deal, try it sometime.

Go out around 9PM and pick a stranger to tail. Make sure they KNOW you're following them, and do it for about five blocks, never speaking a word. Then all of sudden run up on them and not say shit.

See what happens.

IMO following someone is a form of physical harassment and an implicit physical threat.

It's the fact that the prosecution never explored this line of argument is one of the reasons many feel the state's prosecution was incompetent.

There was enough evidence to charge Zimmerman with involuntary manslaughter; the unintentional killing of another person(this still gives Zimmerman the benefit of the doubt that he never intended to kill Trayvon as was simply defending himself).

That jury was about as stupid as Mr. Barkley.:smt099

Without the Stand Your Ground law in effect, do you think the Prosecution would have been able to still succeed in this case? Or do you think possibly the defendant's defense still may have prevailed?

I still believe that Bao was right, that Trayon didn't immediately die when he was shot. It would have taken 5 to 10 minutes for him to die - he said. Bao also mentioned that it appeared as if Zimmerman shot him in a perfect proximity to his heart. I also blame Bao (in addition to Jeantal) for the Prosecution's loss. He kept saying that he needed to look at his notes and he changed accounts of what exactly happened from his perspective. Don West and Shiping Bao also got into a heated argument in the Courtroom as well.

 

[jaisee]

Here's the thing: You & Archman are closed minded. You belittle & disrespect anyone or anything that does line up with your views all the while demanding that others respect your views. The fact that you some kind of negative label on everyone & Archman saying everyone not on board with your particular line of thinking are making excuses is proof of that. You want respect then give it.

Or, the fact that I can confidently state, with 100% accuracy what paniro and Archmans position on any given topic will be before they even say a word is pretty indicative of close mindedness or at the very least being shallow.

I know they will take it as an insult, and I don't care, but there is not a lot of depth to either of them. Without so much as a thought, they must align with the right regardless the topic.

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

And there you go. Trying to act like you don't care. Would have more weigh if it weren't for the attempts at recruitment to your ideology videos thread you made up in the Politics Section. Keep trying to pimp them views of yours homey.

 

[Archman]

So if someone's ideas are different from yours THEY are the ones that a close minded and living in a box. But if I stand up and beat my chest along with you I'm sure I'm a open minded fella that's sees the world for what it really is huh?

You have to take what they say and all their insults with a grain of salt....In this multifaceted world, they are the ones actually restricting themselves and living in a black-first box.......

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

You have to take what they say and all their insults with a grain of salt....In this multifaceted world, they are the ones actually restricting themselves and living in a black-first box.......I mean,--- how can commit your self to whitewomen and to the interracial world and yet still be so exclusively black in your heart......

We do it quite well thank you. And the white women we love & love us in return have no problems with us, so again what's the point you are trying to make with this childish statement sir?

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

Lol if you think I feel I can change peoples views you're sorely mistaken. I put forth my OPINION on topics. Not a single fuck can be given if you like don't like it or whatever its simply my OPINION

You lie.....You live for that shit......Keep trying though......

 

[jaisee]

You have to take what they say and all their insults with a grain of salt....In this multifaceted world, they are the ones actually restricting themselves and living in a black-first box.......I mean,--- how can commit your self to whitewomen and to the interracial world and yet still be so exclusively black in your heart......

Thank you. The fact that you take what others say with a grain of salt alone tells us that you are close minded to view points other than your own. Thank you for confirming your position with paniro, because he was just trying to defend you.

Secondly, in this multifaceted world, I do not commit myself to solely white women Arch. I commit myself to all women.

Thirdly, I am not exclusively black in my heart, nor is anyone who has taken a stance different from your own simply on merit that they take a stance different from your own. I am a black male who was raised by black parents in a black community and I sympathize with my black brothers and sisters in a country that has repeatedly... for as long as we've been here put it's foot on our necks. I do not see my enemy as white people or any race of people. My enemy is a government that has shown time and time and time again that to it, my people are disposable. Just because someone says "we are all equal and free" does not mean that we are all equal and free. What are the old adages? The proof is in the pudding? Actions speak louder than words? I'm fortunate in that I've met white women who accept that I understand where I'm from and that I love and embrace who I am, my culture and my people. Just as I accept who they are, where they are from, and their culture.

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

Or, the fact that I can confidently state, with 100% accuracy what paniro and Archmans position on any given topic will be before they even say a word is pretty indicative of close mindedness or at the very least being shallow.

I know they will take it as an insult, and I don't care, but there is not a lot of depth to either of them. Without so much as a thought, they must align with the right regardless the topic.

Yep. Never anything new. Same playbook talking points pretty much every time. And the spin, deflect and avoid/ignore tactics? All just to express a simple opinion?

 

[jaisee]

Lol if you think I feel I can change peoples views you're sorely mistaken. I put forth my OPINION on topics. Not a single fuck can be given if you like don't like it or whatever its simply my OPINION

So, basically you're just spewing shit?

There is no effort to be educational, informative, or persuasive in your posts?

You're just talking for the sake of talking?

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

So, basically you're just spewing shit?

There is no effort to be educational, informative, or persuasive in your posts?

You're just talking for the sake of talking?

Don't confuse him like that.