Trayvon Martin's Murder

[Stinkmeaner]

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[goodlove]

Bookie,
What is lacking in the so-called cyber debates is some kind of officiating body or entity to help to regulate fairness and politness..... In such an ideal scenario, I think all participating would all thrive and grow in a vigorous but respectful dialogue......but since it is that people on this site cannot carry the responsibility of self regulating themselves and adhering to such a simply code of ethics, I am in agreement with your decision to leave.
Although you entered the debate late, your contribution in this thread was unpopular but significant..... and fortunately will be readily available as a reference for all too see an example of one with bold conviction..........

thats because people are on the net...you cant face them or anything...its no different than talk radio....well its worst.

besides a person cant really tell so much if they are getting mad or misunderstanding the intent of your post

 

[Soulthinker]

SM,that is good footage. I saw the MSNBC reponse and it is fabulous. This is from a guy who is a real hypocrite writing books on the asssainations of Kennedy,Jesus,and Lincoln. His Andrea McCreis moment and shouting bring shame but,he is making boucoup bucks.

 

[Soulthinker]

Most of the people on this thread know some of those experiences first hand and for some who don't think that the experiences of Mr.Martin are the same as most Black men are really 'full of shyt'. I watch Fox News and talk radio in my area of those conservatives who think this is not about race and the protests,outcries for justice for a young Black male who just wanted to go home were whipped up by "race baters","race hustlers","poverty pimps" and other names have not sense of reality of the Black experiece. Do our conservative members of this site know that if it not for liberals they would not get the chance to date another race? I know I said that many times on many threads but,it is true.

 

[Gorath]

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The POTUS had been facing that in the first year of his presidency. It was called the Hip-Hop Summit. He had met with r&b and rap performers. Later, he invited country and western performers like Merle Haggard and others to the White House. For Limbaugh and Hannity, it is about lining their pockets and self-containment for their mostly white audience.

 

[Bliss]

5'11 158? Is the body of a teen. Maybe at 180 to 190 he'd be a man those 30lbs count especially in a fight.

No doubt. Wonder though, if it matters if the weight is fat vs muscle.

..That was not fair to TM at all. We guys know for a fact that weight matters much more than height. It takes some real skill to beat someone thats 40 pounds heavier than you. They will put thier weight into the punches and if they grab you chances are you fucked.

Yeah, even if we went by MMA weight classes (since "Martin was pounding MMA style" was brought up in the trial by the eyewitness). If that was in-fact a legit match, they would not even be allowed to fight...

MMA
Lightweight, 155
Welterweight, 170
Middleweight, 185
Light Heavyweight, 205

UFC
welterweight-156-170
middleweight-171-185
lightheavyweight-186-205

Either way he got the best of GZ, but in the end, he lost the 'fight'. That's actually how the State ended their closing, in fact. "George didn't lose the fight(smh), Trayvon lost the fight!"

 

[Bookworm616]

I feel you. Opposing POV's delivered intelligently and respectfully should always be welcomed on a Forum's news Section. I belong to a politics group and I will say, there are pro and cons on every subject discussed - Trayvon included - and while the discussions are spirited, they are never degrading or promote racial divisiveness. It just seems here that certain individuals either dust up their old ID's and come trolling, or log on just to check someone, or come to argue or take swipes...IDK, it's sometimes like navigating through a minefield to get to the worthy posters worth reading.

I hope you stick around, you're an intelligent woman with great insight into many things.

Thanks, I appreciate the kind words. But I'm leaving. My email address is on my profile and I'm sure you can find someone you talk to that is friends with me on Facebook if you want to connect there.

 

[Bookworm616]

Well like you said the poor little white girl can't understand. If you had a woman on here blaming rape on women and at every turn making blanketed unfounded statements about women you'd feel the same way too. Btw way to be bold and stand up to someone making a comment about a bm. Hope you're around when archman does it you phony.

I think andreboda (sp?) handled most of it. (without quoting again)

And for the whole SYG posting - again, this was NOT a SYG case.

Books....no one ever questioned whether or not you can have or express an opinion. You have done so abundantly over time including posts about dating non-black men and all sorts of other things that have nothing to do with this site. Whether you like it or not.....the FACT that Trayvon was a child (legally) is not opinion. So scream away. Arch will be there kissing your ass every step of the way.

I didn't realize there were laws as to what you can and cannot post on this site.

You make it sound like it's some reality show "big reveal". I've never made it secret that I'm not only attracted to or only date black men. In fact, there are several women on this site that are in my shoes, but apparently, it's only me that you have a problem with.

I'd like to thank the both of you for making my decision to leave that much easier.

 

[Beasty]

No doubt. Wonder though, if it matters if the weight is fat vs muscle.



Yeah, even if we went by MMA weight classes (since "Martin was pounding MMA style" was brought up in the trial by the eyewitness). If that was in-fact a legit match, they would not even be allowed to fight...

MMA
Lightweight, 155
Welterweight, 170
Middleweight, 185
Light Heavyweight, 205

UFC
welterweight-156-170
middleweight-171-185
lightheavyweight-186-205

Either way he got the best of GZ, but in the end, he lost the 'fight'. That's actually how the State ended their closing, in fact. "George didn't lose the fight(smh), Trayvon lost the fight!"

Extra fat helps until it gets to the point that you become slower and have less energy. Certainly a trade off in which muscle is the ideal.

 

[Loki]

Thanks, I appreciate the kind words. But I'm leaving. My email address is on my profile and I'm sure you can find someone you talk to that is friends with me on Facebook if you want to connect there.

I do hope you don't leave for good Books, things can get quite heated around these parts, but there are those of us who do relish a respectful, cool, calm, and collected debate on tough issues. Even though I disagree with some of your viewpoints, I think it would be a shame to lose your voice, perhaps just take a break and see how you feel later?

 

[Stinkmeaner]

No doubt. Wonder though, if it matters if the weight is fat vs muscle.



Yeah, even if we went by MMA weight classes (since "Martin was pounding MMA style" was brought up in the trial by the eyewitness). If that was in-fact a legit match, they would not even be allowed to fight...

MMA
Lightweight, 155
Welterweight, 170
Middleweight, 185
Light Heavyweight, 205

UFC
welterweight-156-170
middleweight-171-185
lightheavyweight-186-205

Either way he got the best of GZ, but in the end, he lost the 'fight'. That's actually how the State ended their closing, in fact. "George didn't lose the fight(smh), Trayvon lost the fight!"

"Got the best of Zimmerman"

How is that possible? The medical examiner found none of Zimmerman's DNA on Trayvons hands.

 

[andreboba]

"Got the best of Zimmerman"

How is that possible? The medical examiner found none of Zimmerman's DNA on Trayvons hands.

Yeah I just don't believe a thing GZ said about how that fight went down. I simply cannot believe Zimmerman was pinned by Trayvon and couldn't get up.

The defense tried to convince the jury the ENTIRE fight was Trayvon bashing Zimmerman's head into the sidewalk 25+ times, which was a blatant lie. They were on that sidewalk for about 5-10 seconds before the fight ended up on the grass.

No matter what, Zimmerman's only option wasn't to draw his weapon.

 

[Ches]

Well like you said the poor little white girl can't understand. If you had a woman on here blaming rape on women and at every turn making blanketed unfounded statements about women you'd feel the same way too. Btw way to be bold and stand up to someone making a comment about a bm. Hope you're around when archman does it you phony.

Not surprising, but quite sad that this is one of the last things Bookie had to read before she left this place. Hopefully, her life will be happier despite the pathetic way she was ushered off the forum.

 

[Bliss]

Have to agree with that statement ^ ^ ^ ^

"Got the best of Zimmerman"

How is that possible? The medical examiner found none of Zimmerman's DNA on Trayvons hands.

To my knowledge, there was never any testing done on the hands themselves. (despite having abrasions to his 4th and 5th left fingers.) Only his fingernails.

And you can blame the pretty inept "I-don't-remember-anything" Medical Examiner, Dr. Bao.

In fact, Trayvon's hands were not even bagged by the Coroner at the crime scene to preserve any DNA evidence as they should have been. Not to mention his body laid out in the rain for almost two hours. That's tough to sustain as 'lack-of-DNA' proof for any Prosecutor.

I totally agree with AB that the amount of strikes were grossly exaggerated by GZ, especially as the fight lasted about a minute.

 

[Bliss]

Thanks, I appreciate the kind words. But I'm leaving. My email address is on my profile and I'm sure you can find someone you talk to that is friends with me on Facebook if you want to connect there.

You got it. Truly sorry you are feeling this way.
But I do agree 100% with Loki - he said it best... maybe a break is key. <3

I do hope you don't leave for good Books, things can get quite heated around these parts, but there are those of us who do relish a respectful, cool, calm, and collected debate on tough issues. Even though I disagree with some of your viewpoints, I think it would be a shame to lose your voice, perhaps just take a break and see how you feel later?

 

[andreboba]

And this was that horrible criminal record of Zimmerman that trayvoneers keep bringing up. Y'all acted like he was Satan in the flesh lol

Remember that battery against a police officer was a reduced charge. Originally it was reported Zimmerman had gotten physical with an undercover police officer and was later charged.

Look, if this had been Trayvon's record, people would be talking about him like he was an ex-con.:smt069

 

[Stumper]

There is a silver lining in this whole case....

The Martin family has passed laws they saw fit to help prevent a tragedy like this from happening again. Absolutely agree with this, and I pray they find some type of solace and peace in the rest of their lives.

But this fucking case is over. Public opinion and it's complete saturation of the news is winding down, THANK GOD, and the race hustlers can have 23872839 rallies, candlelight vigils, petitions, protests, etc to line their pockets, but this country is over it. They don't want to hear about it anymore.

And now the news is saturated by the Royal Family and it's new baby.

People can argue till they're blue in the face, Jay-Z can boycott whatever the fuck he wants, but at the end of the day, George Zimmerman is still not guilty, and is a free man. You BUTTHURT NICCAS and GIRL(TDK, Ra, Goodlove, FlamingShitbag, Gorath, Alinoa, KinCA) can now go back outside and live life.

And I hope everyone is happy that they've run off one of the longest posting people at this site in Bookie, because of a dissenting opinion.

I'm done with this. Holla.

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

There is a silver lining in this whole case....

The Martin family has passed laws they saw fit to help prevent a tragedy like this from happening again. Absolutely agree with this, and I pray they find some type of solace and peace in the rest of their lives.

But this fucking case is over. Public opinion and it's complete saturation of the news is winding down, THANK GOD, and the race hustlers can have 23872839 rallies, candlelight vigils, petitions, protests, etc to line their pockets, but this country is over it. They don't want to hear about it anymore.

And now the news is saturated by the Royal Family and it's new baby.

People can argue till they're blue in the face, Jay-Z can boycott whatever the fuck he wants, but at the end of the day, George Zimmerman is still not guilty, and is a free man. You BUTTHURT NICCAS and GIRL(TDK, Ra, Goodlove, FlamingShitbag, Gorath, Alinoa, KinCA) can now go back outside and live life.

And I hope everyone is happy that they've run off one of the longest posting people at this site in Bookie, because of a dissenting opinion.

I'm done with this. Holla.

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Yeah. Get that last little negative dig in since you couldn't actually hold any adult level discussion in this entire thread. Bookie actually got her point across like an adult. None of you other three loud & proud Zimmerman supporters did that with all the time and energy you spent in this thread. SMDH :smt043:smt043

 

[Bliss]

Remember that battery against a police officer was a reduced charge. Originally it was reported Zimmerman had gotten physical with an undercover police officer and was later charged.
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AB, I'm going to speak in general here (and def not in defense GZ), but if we would be honest here -
and I say this because this often affects BM a lot- but if you so much as touch or resist a cop in any way, they charge you with 'battery'. If no injuries are sustained, they often overcharge in the attempt that something will stick, in that most likely you'll plead guilty to plead down. According to the 2005 nightclub incident, the cop said GZ pushed him. Curious if you feel that if he had actually battered a cop, the 'with non-violence' would have been granted?
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[Bliss]

Not surprising, but quite sad that this is one of the last things Bookie had to read before she left this place. Hopefully, her life will be happier despite the pathetic way she was ushered off the forum.

My eyes needed bleach after he told Arch he "hopes he never finds himself at the mercy of his MASTERS"