Trayvon Martin's Murder

paniro187 said:
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hmmm

where was tdk and the crew when this went down.......
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This is completely bias. Scott had already saw the kids committing crimes. It was three on one. Zimmerman had a weight advantage. Please don't use again. we can all google. There was not three trayvons.
 
paniro187 said:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/roderickscott.asp

wonder if tdk will blame the economy for those kids breaking into cars when scott walked up on them told them to freeze and wait for the police. teens didnt hit him but when he shot and killed one of them he claimed self defence.......and he was acquitted........
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What do kids getting caught breaking into cars have to do with Trayvon Martin? Did Zimmerman catch Martin in the act of breaking into homes? Where are you going with this?
 
Ra said:
What do kids getting caught breaking into cars have to do with Trayvon Martin? Did Zimmerman catch Martin in the act of breaking into homes? Where are you going with this?
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I brought this up on a different site. Trayvon was confronted while doing nothing, not even anything justifying pursuit by neighborhood watch (even if there was such a thing, given the fact that they are not deputized law enforcement officials). The other individual confronted juveniles in the act of auto theft/burglary. Nevertheless, I'm not in favor of him taking it upon himself the responsibility for enforcing the law. But that is the important difference.
 
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orejon4 said:
I brought this up on a different site. Trayvon was confronted while doing nothing, not even anything justifying pursuit by neighborhood watch (even if there was such a thing, given the fact that they are no deputized law enforcement officials). The other individual confronted juveniles in the act of auto theft/burglary. Nevertheless, I'm not in favor of him taking it upon himself the responsibility for enforcing the law. But that is the important difference.
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So I'm not the only one seeing the difference in the two situations. Thank You.
 
hey fellas just report this person to webbie. he dont belong here. hes a troll.

yeah dude im doing it in ur face. no secrets here. only black men and ww belong here. u gots to go
 
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The Dark King said:
A reduced charge is usually a deal worked out not a misstatement of fact. If I get hit with a speeding ticket for doing 85 and they later reduce it to a seatbelt violation it doesn't mean I wasn't speeding it was the deal worked out to avoid court time. You never got a ticket before?

And the last part is not speculation come on Paniro. They painted this kid a thug from.the jump just because he had gold fronts and a bunch of goofy shit on his facebook(like damn near every other kid his age has).
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Someone please remind people that George Zimmerman's father is an EX-JUDGE who sat on the bench I believe in that jurisdiction.

Zimmerman had a battery charge against a police officer reduced to a misdemeanor. Connect the dots.
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orejon4 said:
I brought this up on a different site. Trayvon was confronted while doing nothing, not even anything justifying pursuit by neighborhood watch (even if there was such a thing, given the fact that they are no deputized law enforcement officials). The other individual confronted juveniles in the act of auto theft/burglary. Nevertheless, I'm not in favor of him taking it upon himself the responsibility for enforcing the law. But that is the important difference.
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I gave you rep(positive) but did not add a comment. I felt this explains it all.
 
goodlove said:
thats very easy to explain. it doesnt bother me that you are a republican and a conservative. meaning it doesnt bother me wholly in how you view the govt should act in america (fiscally conservative and strict holder of the constitution and for some religious beliefs) . I stated my support for you in many of cases in regards to yor right to say so and respect that. this despite my differences in how a goivt should run the country.

but in this case you have inferred and stated that tray is a thug and inferred and or zim is the good guy no matter what the non-bias evidence is there. you, more than once, minimized zim's criminal record and maximized trays noncriminal record at every turn.

then you inferred that tray deserved what was coming to him and zim was a good man who was mild mannered blah, blah.

in total you put all the onus on tray (a 17 year old...legally a child. also by any legal pyschologist will tell you he didnt have the cognitive maturity for that type of situation) but yet zim (a 28 year old fully mature definitely by every psychologist standards) got a pass from you on every turn. you gave him no responsibility at all.

this is the type of rhetoric and mindset a klansman has. thus it walks, talks and acts like a duck it is a duck.


that is what a klansman do. they supported zim's trial in words and in money. klansmen gets no respect from me and because you have taken on the traits of a klansman or exhibits the traits of a klansman you gets no respect from this man...this black man.

you can whine and bitch all you want.....just look at your posts and you will see a klansman
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GL, knock it off. This is ridiculous. Seriously.

In one thread, we ponder the question of black on black crime. Why are so many black men killing each other? In this thread, we have black men calling each other Uncle Ruckus, Uncle Tom, troll, klansman, telling another BM he's not even black....anyone else see the irony here?
 
chesbaygrl7 said:
GL, knock it off. This is ridiculous. Seriously.

In one thread, we ponder the question of black on black crime. Why are so many black men killing each other? In this thread, we have black men calling each other Uncle Ruckus, Uncle Tom, troll, klansman, telling another BM he's not even black....anyone else see the irony here?
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Ches you probably don't see the difference in how some of these men act. There is a way to be conservative and well respected. The dude who posted a lot before the elections was rarely agreed with but very well respected imo. He presented eloquent and well thought out arguments to support his points. He used facts and was always kind about it.
Now you have guys like Archean Paniro and Stumper who start posts with disrespect and from the standpoint black people deserve any and all bad treatment. Have they said it in so many words? No. But when grown men try to tell me that a teenager walking home minding their business is being followed by a grown man with is the aggressor there is something wrong with their thinking. They have been unfair biased and rude with nearly all their posts.
 
The Dark King said:
Ches you probably don't see the difference in how some of these men act. There is a way to be conservative and well respected. The dude who posted a lot before the elections was rarely agreed with but very well respected imo. He presented eloquent and well thought out arguments to support his points. He used facts and was always kind about it.
Now you have guys like Archean Paniro and Stumper who start posts with disrespect and from the standpoint black people deserve any and all bad treatment. Have they said it in so many words? No. But when grown men try to tell me that a teenager walking home minding their business is being followed by a grown man with is the aggressor there is something wrong with their thinking. They have been unfair biased and rude with nearly all their posts.
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You are talking about James Wilson, he was respected.
 
The Dark King said:
Ches you probably don't see the difference in how some of these men act. There is a way to be conservative and well respected. The dude who posted a lot before the elections was rarely agreed with but very well respected imo. He presented eloquent and well thought out arguments to support his points. He used facts and was always kind about it.
Now you have guys like Archean Paniro and Stumper who start posts with disrespect and from the standpoint black people deserve any and all bad treatment. Have they said it in so many words? No. But when grown men try to tell me that a teenager walking home minding their business is being followed by a grown man with is the aggressor there is something wrong with their thinking. They have been unfair biased and rude with nearly all their posts.
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But you agree that Pani has been respectful in his video dialogue, right? Maybe there's something to that? I mean, it's a shame we can't be respectful just in writing, but maybe the vid makes the individual more "real" and so dialogue is more respectful?

And lest anyone say I'm butt kissing, I'm not defending Pani or anyone specifically. Just defending the right to hold a different view. But I agree, if someone starts off insulting, I suppose he/she gets what they deserve. But it goes too far, at times.

I believe, there are times when a person comes off as disrespectful simply because they don't share a commonly held view. They're immediately looked at as suspect. Conclusions are jumped to, insults are thrown, neg reps are given....why not stop and politely ask why he holds that view - how did he come to that viewpoint?
 
Stinkmeaner said:
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So what the hell is she trying to say? All I am hearing is that she helped someone get away with murder, and is now having after thoughts or wanted to cash in on the fame. She could have hung the jury or forced a manslaughter charge but instead what happened was she voted not guilty, and by her own admission knowingly let a guy get away with murder.



I honestly have more respect for the racists on the jury. At least they arent doing something like letting a murderer go, and then backtracking on that decision they made. B37 while ignorant as hell at least stood by her conviction on national television.
 
MixedCalifornian said:
So what the hell is she trying to say? All I am hearing is that she helped someone get away with murder, and is now having after thoughts or wanted to cash in on the fame. She could have hung the jury or forced a manslaughter charge but instead what happened was she voted not guilty, and by her own admission knowingly let a guy get away with murder.

I honestly have more respect for the racists on the jury. At least they arent doing something like letting a murderer go, and then backtracking on that decision they made. B37 while ignorant as hell at least stood by her conviction on national television.
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Loki, are there any sanctions available for jury members who admit to not executing their duties correctly? Does her admission even qualify as not executing those duties? The statement she makes about her being willing to hold out for a hung jury, does that count?
 
chesbaygrl7 said:
But you agree that Pani has been respectful in his video dialogue, right? Maybe there's something to that? I mean, it's a shame we can't be respectful just in writing, but maybe the vid makes the individual more "real" and so dialogue is more respectful?

And lest anyone say I'm butt kissing, I'm not defending Pani or anyone specifically. Just defending the right to hold a different view. But I agree, if someone starts off insulting, I suppose he/she gets what they deserve. But it goes too far, at times.

I believe, there are times when a person comes off as disrespectful simply because they don't share a commonly held view. They're immediately looked at as suspect. Conclusions are jumped to, insults are thrown, neg reps are given....why not stop and politely ask why he holds that view - how did he come to that viewpoint?
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what!!!!!??????? he has been respectful!?????!!!!! u need to read all his posts and read my post about why he gets no respect. ....especially as a supposedly bm
 
goodlove said:
what!!!!!??????? he has been respectful!?????!!!!! u need to read all his posts and read my post about why he gets no respect. ....especially as a supposedly bm
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READ my first line, again. Did I say anything about his posts to you???

For reference, this is the thread I'm talking about (one you posted in, btw)....look at the comments in the last couple of pages. Both members got props for respectful dialogue.

http://www.whitewomenblackmen.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24230
 
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chesbaygrl7 said:
READ my first line, again. Did I say anything about his posts to you???

For reference, this is the thread I'm talking about (one you posted in, btw)....look at the comments in the last couple of pages. Both members got props for respectful dialogue.
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maybe u need to explain with more clarity. from what im reading u r defending someone who is infetrring tray brougjht the murder on himself and we should respect that. so explain what u r saying
 
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