How to Pick Up Serbian Girls

Gorath said:
Welcome back, Karris. Where have you been?
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Why? Did ya miss me? :cool:

Just making ends meet and researching all this amazing stuff my friend in Belgrade is sending me. I just posted a short story to the creative writing section here that spun out of a passage on my family I machine translated.
 
Soulthinker said:
Welcome back Karris. Hope your book gets published soon. Tell us more on the upcomming book signing.
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Thanks, glad to be back. I'm still writing. It keeps changing form, was a memoir, turned into a screenplay, then prose and I'm thinking of changing it up again, making it all third person. And I've got a ton of research to do, Old Country stuff I'm getting access to.

I'm moving into Raleigh in the next few months. Maybe we can chat real-time one day.
 
karris said:
Why? Did ya miss me? :cool:

Just making ends meet and researching all this amazing stuff my friend in Belgrade is sending me. I just posted a short story to the creative writing section here that spun out of a passage on my family I machine translated.
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I did miss you. Glad to have you back with us. Good luck in getting published.
 
karris said:
I have a new best friend, a journalist in Belgrade, who has been giving me a great deal of encouragement. She thinks my story will be well received there, Diaspora writers often are. I've learned a great deal from her, she's provided me with a book in Serbian that I'm slowly machine translating, documenting what happened to my family and their kith and kin in WWII.

What I mainly want to add here are two links. One is to a documentary about the 90's war done by a 24 y.o. Serbo-Canadian with a very sardonic Michael Moorish approach. Brilliant, loveable kid.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waEYQ46gH08


[YOUTUBE]waEYQ46gH08[/YOUTUBE]




It reveals how the impression we had of that war was sheer propaganda we feel for hook line and sinker.

Then, just today, she sent me this link:

http://inserbia.info/news/2013/08/croats-bosnians-serbs-you-have-been-manipulated-war-was-staged-former-cia-officer/

A CIA agent, the one Clooney portrayed in Syriana, has revealed how the US cooked that war, and the extreme propaganda re: Serbs. The Balkans are the only land route between the West and the East. To the north nothing but mountain ranges. Any super power MUST control that turf. And Serbs have always been a total PITA to imperialists. They definitively had to be neutralized and the country acquiesced by the US. Just getting ready for Armageddon, baby.

In short, if you want to know how we see ourselves, watch/read the above, and if you're really thorough get ahold of Rebecca West's "Black Lamb and Grey Falcon." She reveals all. It's fascinating if just for its insights into the causes of the First World War.
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Whow!!!
I just finished watching the whole documentary and something struck me about the masses, all over the world. They are soo easily manipulated, it makes you wonder why humans are still regarded as superior animals. Its the same story here and there, same tactics, yet no one cares.
I can't help to think how fickle minded the human mind is, how repetition are used in circles and yet most people feel they are better off. Its like a programmable robot, where the few elites are the programmers, and they just know which button to push to have those damn! robots do stuffs that they want. Its the same in Africa aswell. Shallow memories of the past, you can hear them talking about "Slavery is over", "Colonialism is dead", but look around, who is more 'slaver' than a slave in Africa and the rest of the world? Ask them, they will tell you about Jesus and Mohammed, and how we have it better now, just like those fools talk about Yugoslavia and the present. To me, it is just tiring responding. i'm so tired now, i don't give a fuck anymore.
 
Thank you for taking the time to 'see' us, and for being moved by it.

There is one difference now, though, than what things were like in the nineties. Now that so much 'news' travels virally it's harder for those elusive power brokers to control the media. So, please, share the link with your facebook people, or whatever you're on. That last one, too, Nada, my Belgrade friend, is very excited about, but it hasn't broken into US news yet. Not sure what the deal is with that.

Sorry it's depressed you, though. But you did accomplish something. You've made me feel more heartened. There will always be this battle. It used to be in the form of straight up slavery, or the less obvious methods like sweat shops and slave wages. Now it's getting very subtle. You saw that Bosnian girl in the documentary when asked if she thought Bosnia was controlled by the US and she said, "Sure, why not? US is sexy."

There's a word Serbs have invented to describe that. Idiotization. MTV is a conduit of it. Emir Kusturica is outspoken about it. He was a professor in Berkeley, now he has a rock band. Johnny Depp is his buddy.

[YOUTUBE]S1k5R3JeO1I[/YOUTUBE]
 
I don't have Messenger installed, and I can't access my Yahoo account. I tried just sending an email to one of those addresses of yours, but apparently that didn't work.

You've found the link to my home page. Could you just use the contact us form?
 
Got it!

Here's another link Nada (my friend in Belgrade sent me). Serbian Blues via Los Angeles. The boy on the guitar looks like my eldest son, the boy singing resembles my eldest daughter.


[YOUTUBE]rdLxWjHaPeQ[/YOUTUBE]

Here's the lyrics, translated:

Dotako_sam________ dno_____života__i pakao___ i ponore
Touched, I have,_ the bottom _of life and hell _ and the abyss

_ali ti _ mi dušu uze_____ prokleti__ ženski _stvore
For you, my soul, took, you damned female creature.

pa__ zbog ___tebe __nemam __mira
and because of you, I have no peace

u snovima_____ ni na javi
in my dreams or in reality

Kako da te______ muko____ moja
How can I, in this torment of mine

Kako da te ______tugo___ moja
How can I, in this sorrow of mine

Kako da te ______srce___ moje
How can I, in this heart of mine

za_ trenutak__ zaboravi
you, forget,_for a minute


Kako da te_______ muko___ moja
How can I, in this torment of mine

Kako da te______ tugo___ moja
How can I, in this sorrow of mine

Kako da te ______srce__ moje
How can I, in this heart of mine

za trenutak_ zaboravi
forget you_ for a minute




Duboko je, daleko je
Deep it is, far it is,

Ja_ osjetih__ svu____ gor?inu
_I __feel___ all _the bitterness

_Dotako_sam________ dno____života
Touched, I have,_ the bottom _of life

sad _verujem u sudbinu
Now I believe in_ faith

ali tebe___ više nema ______u snovima__ ni na javi
for you are no longer here, in my dreams or in reality

Kako da te___ muko_____ moja
How can I, in this torment of mine

Kako da te ______tugo___ moja
How can I, in this sorrow of mine

Kako da te _____srce___ moje
How can I, in this heart of mine

za_ trenutak__ zaboravi
you, forget,_for a minute



Kako da te______ muko____ moja
How can I, in this torment of mine

Kako da te ______tugo___ moja
How can I, in this sorrow of mine

Kako da te ______srce___ moje
How can I, in this heart of mine

za_ trenutak__ zaboravi
you, forget,_for a minute



Šibali su moju dušu______ i orkani_____ i tornada
Lashed is my soul by both hurricanes and tornadoes.

ali_ ti _mi dušu uze___ prokleta ženo mlada
but you my soul took, damn woman, young

pa zbog__ tebe_______ nemam mira
so now, because of you, I have no peace

_u snovima___ ni na javi
in my dreams nor in reality

Kako da te___ muko_____ moja
How can I, in this torment of mine

Kako da te ______tugo___ moja
How can I, in this sorrow of mine

Kako da te _____srce___ moje
How can I, in this heart of mine

za_ trenutak__ zaboravi
you, forget,_for a minute



Kako da te___ muko_____ moja
How can I, in this torment of mine

Kako da te ______tugo___ moja
How can I, in this sorrow of mine

Kako da te _____srce___ moje
How can I, in this heart of mine

za_ trenutak__ zaboravi
you, forget,_for a minute
 
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karris said:
I have a new best friend, a journalist in Belgrade, who has been giving me a great deal of encouragement. She thinks my story will be well received there, Diaspora writers often are. I've learned a great deal from her, she's provided me with a book in Serbian that I'm slowly machine translating, documenting what happened to my family and their kith and kin in WWII.

What I mainly want to add here are two links. One is to a documentary about the 90's war done by a 24 y.o. Serbo-Canadian with a very sardonic Michael Moorish approach. Brilliant, loveable kid.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waEYQ46gH08


[YOUTUBE]waEYQ46gH08[/YOUTUBE]




It reveals how the impression we had of that war was sheer propaganda we feel for hook line and sinker.

Then, just today, she sent me this link:

http://inserbia.info/news/2013/08/croats-bosnians-serbs-you-have-been-manipulated-war-was-staged-former-cia-officer/

A CIA agent, the one Clooney portrayed in Syriana, has revealed how the US cooked that war, and the extreme propaganda re: Serbs. The Balkans are the only land route between the West and the East. To the north nothing but mountain ranges. Any super power MUST control that turf. And Serbs have always been a total PITA to imperialists. They definitively had to be neutralized and the country acquiesced by the US. Just getting ready for Armageddon, baby.

In short, if you want to know how we see ourselves, watch/read the above, and if you're really thorough get ahold of Rebecca West's "Black Lamb and Grey Falcon." She reveals all. It's fascinating if just for its insights into the causes of the First World War.
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I am definitely looking forward to watching this documentary when I get the chance. I was about to watch it now but then I saw the runtime. The most interesting docs seem to be the longest! :)
 
Loved it ~

karris said:
Here's another link Nada (my friend in Belgrade sent me). Serbian Blues via Los Angeles...

[YOUTUBE]rdLxWjHaPeQ[/YOUTUBE]
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I really enjoyed LISTENING to this man, and WATCHING him sing...

When I was in Greece, it was so thrilling to meet a Black man and have him speak Greek to me. It was so alien to me and so fantastic. That he took the time to learn Greek, and to be able to converse with him, was always such an honor. (trust, you can get by speaking only English there quite well).

Watching this guy sing in Serbian with such passion took me back, and shows us how beautiful it is when one learns another' culture's language and music.
 
Isn't he beautiful? To me, he sings it better than the versions I've heard from there. I particularly don't like the versions with the old world- style band, they add this kind of polka beat I dislike that is much too upbeat. It takes away from the bluesy quality the song should have, that the guitar accompaniment adds.

He's gotten quite a lot of comments, this is travelling far.
 
karris said:
Got it!

Here's another link Nada (my friend in Belgrade sent me). Serbian Blues via Los Angeles. The boy on the guitar looks like my eldest son, the boy singing resembles my eldest daughter.


[YOUTUBE]rdLxWjHaPeQ[/YOUTUBE]

Here's the lyrics, translated:

Dotako_sam________ dno_____života__i pakao___ i ponore
Touched, I have,_ the bottom _of life and hell _ and the abyss

_ali ti _ mi dušu uze_____ prokleti__ ženski _stvore
For you, my soul, took, you damned female creature.

pa__ zbog ___tebe __nemam __mira
and because of you, I have no peace

u snovima_____ ni na javi
in my dreams or in reality

Kako da te______ muko____ moja
How can I, in this torment of mine

Kako da te ______tugo___ moja
How can I, in this sorrow of mine

Kako da te ______srce___ moje
How can I, in this heart of mine

za_ trenutak__ zaboravi
you, forget,_for a minute


Kako da te_______ muko___ moja
How can I, in this torment of mine

Kako da te______ tugo___ moja
How can I, in this sorrow of mine

Kako da te ______srce__ moje
How can I, in this heart of mine

za trenutak_ zaboravi
forget you_ for a minute




Duboko je, daleko je
Deep it is, far it is,

Ja_ osjetih__ svu____ gor?inu
_I __feel___ all _the bitterness

_Dotako_sam________ dno____života
Touched, I have,_ the bottom _of life

sad _verujem u sudbinu
Now I believe in_ faith

ali tebe___ više nema ______u snovima__ ni na javi
for you are no longer here, in my dreams or in reality

Kako da te___ muko_____ moja
How can I, in this torment of mine

Kako da te ______tugo___ moja
How can I, in this sorrow of mine

Kako da te _____srce___ moje
How can I, in this heart of mine

za_ trenutak__ zaboravi
you, forget,_for a minute



Kako da te______ muko____ moja
How can I, in this torment of mine

Kako da te ______tugo___ moja
How can I, in this sorrow of mine

Kako da te ______srce___ moje
How can I, in this heart of mine

za_ trenutak__ zaboravi
you, forget,_for a minute



Šibali su moju dušu______ i orkani_____ i tornada
Lashed is my soul by both hurricanes and tornadoes.

ali_ ti _mi dušu uze___ prokleta ženo mlada
but you my soul took, damn woman, young

pa zbog__ tebe_______ nemam mira
so now, because of you, I have no peace

_u snovima___ ni na javi
in my dreams nor in reality

Kako da te___ muko_____ moja
How can I, in this torment of mine

Kako da te ______tugo___ moja
How can I, in this sorrow of mine

Kako da te _____srce___ moje
How can I, in this heart of mine

za_ trenutak__ zaboravi
you, forget,_for a minute



Kako da te___ muko_____ moja
How can I, in this torment of mine

Kako da te ______tugo___ moja
How can I, in this sorrow of mine

Kako da te _____srce___ moje
How can I, in this heart of mine

za_ trenutak__ zaboravi
you, forget,_for a minute
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Hi Karris,
I enjoyed the video. Serbian language looks catchy from the way you typed the words out. I was pronouncing the words according to the audio, the moja part goes with moya. Anyway, can you start a 'Serbian Language 101' Forum exclusively for wwbm.com, thankx in advance.

Redex.
 
Oh yes, it's very regular, very phonetic, once you get the sounds you can pronounce any word. J is always Y, that's the most obvious one. And I have a big story about this. Cousin Mrkalja wrote the alphabet. See, grandma was from a small village out in the frontier, the no man's land between the Middle East and Europe, very small population, very poor. So I haven't verified that I'm really related to Sava Mrkalja, but it's likely I am, especially since he looks just like my brother, George. Anyway, at the same time Sequoia was writing his syllabary of the Cherokee language that would allow an old man to learn to read in two weeks, Cousin Mrkalj was doing the same thing, for the same reason. But the church, who paid his salary, didn't like it, thought it was sacrilege, and in two years he was homeless and insane. Threw himself into the Kupa river. Poor Cousin Sava.

And that was from the illiterate field hand side of the family! It's so cool.

His protege, Karakzik, pushed the alphabet through a generation later.
 
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