"she's not hip hop" says hip hop star

GFunk said:
Been out of the loop, but going back the "about that life" shit. If anything, being "about that life" in hip-hop's purest form would be from the Kool Herc/Flash/Bambaataa era. Gangsta rap didn't come about until Schooly D, Just Ice and Ice-T in 85-86, so gangsta life shouldn't even be discussed in in here. Hip-hop was about the love, unity and the competition. It was a was to take competitive negative energy of gangs and inner city violence and turn it into positive competitive energy. Bambaataa stopped gangbanging when he was laying the blueprint for hip-hop. You wanna be about that hip-hop life? You wanna be authentic? You should know what the 4 elements of hip-hop are and have a base knowledge of of how they tie into each other if y'all are trying to break the shit down.

Of course money is always gonna be a factor. Even KRS-1 wants to get paid for a show, but it's not the main motivating factor for him to be in hip-hop and like many other MCs who are considered "real hip-hop", they put a level of quality into their music that isn't put out by most in the mainstream. And if these rappers on the radio are putting out their best, then many of them just don't have the capability. Iggy and whoever else are free to do what they do, and shouldn't let others stop them from their paper chase. At the same time, if people see wackness, don't expect them to hold their opinion back. Hip-hop is the last style of music where someone is gonna be nice about their opinion on a rapper, unless they are yes-men in their circle.

There's a market for everything, but the record companies and media outlets don't want to expand that market. There is no balance. Everything is some kind of club banger or some duet.

And Ra is right. A lot of people remain underground/indie by choice. These MCs have more control over their music and don't risk getting fucked over by major record labels, or having some record executive who doesn't understand the culture come in the studio and telling you you're making YOUR music wrong. Also, selling 100,000 albums at 10 dollars on an indie label will be more profitable than a mainstream release going platinum where the rapper gets scraps. There are still people out there willing to sell their music, but not sell themselves. The ones who sell themselves, or never had a great understanding of the culture are the ones you usually see on tv. Sad thing is, I'm pretty sure there a ton of rappers in the mainstream who want to make music that the record labels won't see as "hot", but they can't say shit because they don't want their album shelved.
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Brilliant! Schooling the hell out of the topic. One of your best posts, Gfunk!
 
goodlove said:
The thread isnt about if corporation destroyed hip hop....the questions was id she hip hop?

Digga said shes not because of the accent and about that life and she should rap about aussie stuff.

My response has been who gives a fuck about her accent. Also, about that life? What? So we agree on all that.

Now if the convo who ruinef hip hop then yeah corporation did. But is at fault for that?

Yeah...if i remember the four...dj, mcees, grafetti and break dancing.

True to the true rap battles,and positivity.

As far as im concern digga broke that code.
Its not cool to call someone nonhip hop unless they are committing a fraud. The vanilla ice rule.

Technically alot of rappers today is not hip hop due to the reasons you say...positive and unity. Gsngsta rap...i dont know about that. To me it died with AD and PE.
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So by your definition everyone from Miley Cyrus and Justin Beiber to Taylor Swift and Kenny Chesney are hip hop because they so?
Dude do you even listen to the music at all?
 
goodlove said:
The question issue is did iggy violated the rules? I say no...shes (as far as i know) didnt violate.
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What the fuck are these so called "RULES" you keep talking about? Fools have shot, stabbed & beat the fuck out one another over who is real "Hip Hop" and you on some ol' cornball bullshit talking about some "old school" rules about not dissing someone for no cause? Really? :smt043:smt043
 
Ra said:
What the fuck are these so called "RULES" you keep talking about? Fools have shot, stabbed & beat the fuck out one another over who is real "Hip Hop" and you on some ol' cornball bullshit talking about some "old school" rules about not dissing someone for no cause? Really? :smt043:smt043
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Then you have not been reading go read what gfunk said.
 
goodlove said:
What?
Expand on what you are saying? Whats the connection?
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According to your posts all it takes for anyone to claim that they are hip hop artists is to simply say so or just rap a little. I agree a lot of these people out here doing the music aren't really about hip hop, there's no love or hunger for the art form and despite a lot of bs being said it is an art form. If people can't recognize that then they don't know a thing about hip hop.
 
The Dark King said:
According to your posts all it takes for anyone to claim that they are hip hop artists is to simply say so or just rap a little. I agree a lot of these people out here doing the music aren't really about hip hop, there's no love or hunger for the art form and despite a lot of bs being said it is an art form. If people can't recognize that then they don't know a thing about hip hop.
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Naw....



You know what went down with vanilla ice right?

He was rapping ...had a hit song. He claimed he was living a gangster life....but he wasnt. He got the boot

Before him (white guys) beasty boys... put out hits but never claimed something they werent.

Thats why eminiem got respect.
So thats basically...what im saying. Did she claim something she wasnt. According to digga statements no. Shes just saying shes rapping in anerican accent and not about australia.

To me that doesnt disqualify her from being hip hop.
 
goodlove said:
According to digga statements no. Shes just saying shes rapping in anerican accent and not about australia.

To me that doesnt disqualify her from being hip hop.
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“Iggy Azalea it’s like I can’t get into her,” Rah Digga said in an interview with ThisIs50. “Because it’s just not real to me. There is a white girl from Australia that spits in an Australian accent, and her name is Chelsea Jane. That I can get into. Teach me Australian Hip Hop culture. Don’t come to America and try to convince me that you’re Gangsta Boo. Personally, I don’t consider her Hip Hop. I listen to her album. Everything that I hear on there is everything but that. And I feel like Hip Hop is Hip Hop.”


Sounds like she's just giving an opinion. And why isn't she allowed to have one again? It's no different than you continually giving everyone your opinion on what she said throughout this thread.
 
The Dark King said:
you do realize that post was directed more at you than others right?
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Thats fine. What ive been saying from beginning...is just because u dont like her music doesnt make het not hip hop.

What i was trying to tell ra...it doesnt mattet if her style is thid or that. Gfunk said that too.

Go back and read and compare it to what ive been saying.

He also went old school...afrika, and others. Like i went to the old school to refer to whats up.
If u cant go back to the old school then what are you going to base things on.

To say (ra inferring) old school dont matter then you cant
Say who is hip hop or not because they started and nurtured it.

I also said hip hop is a tree of many branches and to bash that branch u dissing the whole tree. The branches are different styles of rap/hip hop.
Gfunk said the same....there are many styles of rap.


I feel gangsta rap is killing that tree
 
Ra said:
“Iggy Azalea it’s like I can’t get into her,” Rah Digga said in an interview with ThisIs50. “Because it’s just not real to me. There is a white girl from Australia that spits in an Australian accent, and her name is Chelsea Jane. That I can get into. Teach me Australian Hip Hop culture. Don’t come to America and try to convince me that you’re Gangsta Boo. Personally, I don’t consider her Hip Hop. I listen to her album. Everything that I hear on there is everything but that. And I feel like Hip Hop is Hip Hop.”


Sounds like she's just giving an opinion. And why isn't she allowed to have one again? It's no different than you continually giving everyone your opinion on what she said throughout this thread.
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Just like im giving mine.

I didnt diss what u were saying...in that corps are fucking hip hop. I said just because you have a deal with corp doesnt make u less hip hop....its business.

I disagree with her in that shes not misrepresenting herself...like vanilla.

The girls (like i said..i only heard 2 cuts.. i told you that) and all i heard was my ass and im fly.

That doesnt disqualify u. Thats why i kept asking what was up in other words.

Hell dudes talk bout booty and what not will that disqualify them
 
Bliss said:
Only reason Iggy raps 'about the hood' is because T.I writes her rhymes.
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Boom there you go right there.
Not so much TI writing her rhymes because its been said ll cool j wrote some of run- dmc's rhymes but is she rapping about something shes not a part of. ....thayd a violation
 
goodlove said:
Thats the first time i heard wang dang ....that is a hot as hell cut.
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Which one did you listen to? There were two versions of Wang Dang Doodle. The one recorded in the 60's and the other in the 80's with Booker T & The MG's (and Blues Brothers guitarist) Steve Cropper. I had heard the Steve Cropper one and thought it was the best version of that song. I even saw a live performance on PBS with Koko Taylor and Steve Cropper doing his thing. Very good show.
 
goodlove said:
Boom there you go right there.
Not so much TI writing her rhymes because its been said ll cool j wrote some of run- dmc's rhymes but is she rapping about something shes not a part of. ....thayd a violation
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Yeah but LL and DMC were all from Hollis, Queens...Iggy is from the boonies in Aus, a far cry from Jackson MS.

edit: Ok not sure wot youre trying to say.
 
Ra said:
Yeah. That's what I'm trying to point out. This whole discussion always loops back to you & your opinion about what she said. You dismiss everything else because you're not interested in talking about anything but that.
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Naw boss. I was saying over and over as gfunk said ypu gonna chase the money...u cant fault them for that.

I was saying it doesnt matter to me. If shes corporate....i didnt totally diss u on that. We all know corp fucks shut up.
Was she violating rules. BLISS told ypu the violation.

I kept asking /saying to you about the vanilla ice rule...u didnt know as i see. Thats the disconnect
 
Bliss said:
Yeah but LL and DMC were all from Hollis, Queens...Iggy is from the boonies in Aus, a far cry from Jackson MS.
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Yeah... thats why i said im not so concerned about who wrote it but what shhe rapped about.

If she just rapped..."my big ass and im fly" then no harm no foul.
 
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