Criming While White

pettyofficerj said:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Societ...ge-Seminar-Racist-indoctrination-or-education
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The only way a class on white privilege can "shame" white people is if it's presented wrong. It's not comfortable to read a paper on white privilege or to listen to a lecture by Tim Wise; I've felt ignorant, surprised, dismayed and sad. But shame indicates that someone knows they've done wrong. Most white people, particularly ones who don't mix regularly with other races, aren't aware of white privilege. To make them feel shame isn't the answer. Awareness and education is. Jmo.
 
Richard Bare said:
Black men have literally branded themselves thugs happily for 25 years, being a thug is a badge of honor, now that Fox News and racist whites are running with it let the butthurt whining begin

This right here is why nobody takes black people and concerns seriously
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Mike brown was 18 but you feel he is culpable for this "branding" of a 25 year period. This right here is why people who can't do second grade math are not taken seriously.
 
As I said before and I will say again and again,the right does not give a rat's butt about Black males since slavery. They didn't lifted a finger when Apartheid happened,and slavery/Jim Crow in the States. On Cos,he is going to be a pariah as compaired to Roman Polanski and Woody Allen. No doubt anyone had vandalized their stars on the Walk of Fame in Hollywod.
 
Beasty said:
Mike brown was 18 but you feel he is culpable for this "branding" of a 25 year period. This right here is why people who can't do second grade math are not taken seriously.
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Talk about pretzel logic a.k.a. willfully evading a point. Like REALLY WORKING HARD LIKE A JOB to evade a point. Just wow
 
pettyofficerj said:
Lol....shit



A lot of people discuss blacks.....and it's not because they 'care' about us

:smt018
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Whatever. Somebody always has to turn comments like this into a racist thing. So much for a white person that wants to care, wants to understand, wants to have a reasonable discussion about racial attitudes. Everything gets misconstrued or ridiculed. It's tiring. Especially from you because you know me better than that.
 
Ches said:
Whatever. Somebody always has to turn comments like this into a racist thing. So much for a white person that wants to care, wants to understand, wants to have a reasonable discussion about racial attitudes. Everything gets misconstrued or ridiculed. It's tiring. Especially from you because you know me better than that.
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Discussing blacks is a racial thing

And that was the wrong smiley...I soooo meant to use something more juvenile

My bad America!
 
Satchmo said:
Thanks for sharing the twitter link TDK - I was fascinated by the specific examples people shared illustrating the statistics as real life. This forum generally has really opened my eyes and got me thinking more as to the depths and extent of the disparate experiences of the races vis-a-vis the law (something I'd always assumed intellectually, but not necessarily understood fully the humanity of the situation). You witnessed me beginning to really think about it:

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One personal encounter with the police years ago shows my naivete about the strikingly different relationship bm have with the police. My black boyfriend at the time and I were parked in his car in the middle of the afternoon in front of bed bath and beyond in a white suburban shopping mall parking lot. We were waiting (for probably 15 minutes) for his friend Sarah to come out of the store (she worked there) so we could all go to lunch at cheesecake factory. Sarah came out briefly and she and my boyfriend put some packages in the trunk of his car and she went back inside. We waited in the car a few more minutes and then decided to drive over to the restaurant across the road without her. As soon as we started pulling out of the parking lot my boyfriend noticed a cop car following us, and so he drove (carefully) around some turns in the mall parking lot until it was clear the cop was indeed following us. They pulled us over and the (of course white) cop asked my boyfriend if they could search his car. Seeing that they'd failed to offer us probable cause for the stop much less the search, my thoughts were of course 'hell no', but my boyfriend quietly consented, traded his swagger for a meek nervous smile and stepped out of the way. I knew he was probably concerned about the inevitable tiny roach that was likely lost under the seat and long-forgotten, and also his license might have been expired; so I didn't argue with him about consenting, sensing he knew better than I how to handle this situation that was unfamiliar to me. I'd been pulled over many times, but based on my boyfriend's behavior I sensed that somehow the dynamics must be different this time (with a black man driving (?)). The one cop basically turned his car inside out searching while I stood in the freezing air with my arms crossed and an indignant look on my face, while the other cop questioned my boyfriend about what we were doing at the mall on a Saturday. When the other cop finally climbed out of the car empty-handed the interrogating cop finally offered that a clerk in the store had called 911 about a suspicious caddy with rims parked in the busy shopping mall lot, and that people were going in and out of the trunk. The interrogating cop's questions turned apologetic and he turned to me asked if I was a student, to which I replied "No. I'm not a student. I'm a lawyer." He gave my boyfriend his license back and we drove off. This experience was benign and routine compared to what I've heard you guys relay or I read about. But I'm grateful for it for what it's worth; it turned the theoretical into reality for me. Back in criminal law class we used to do "ride-alongs" with cops (presumably) to experience realistic law enforcement practices. I now think whites should do "ride-alongs" with blacks going to the mall and to lunch to experience realistic law enforcement practices.
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- My ex and I were once pulled over in Lincoln Park, up in Illinois. I was about 21 at the time, she was 19. Some of the questions that the officers asked her ranged from 'are you ok?' when she had no look of being in distress on her face to 'do your parents know where you're at?' She was far more miffed than I was at the encounter. The cops left me with a ticket for a 'rolling stop' as a nice parting gift.

- Again, in my early 20's. While driving through Lisle, Il to go to the Bulls/SOX academy to play basketball I was 'escorted' literally from the moment I got off the expressway all the way to my final destination.

- The same happened to me in a community in Coral Springs, FL while driving to spend the night at my ex's. I called her and asked her to come downstairs to meet me, just in case. When they saw her approach me, they just drove off.

- In one city in Indiana (don't recall exactly which, but it had a population of about 1% black at the time), I had a Hollywood video manager call the police on me while I was there picking out movies and games with my white friend and his hispanic wife. The officer approached me and asked if he could check my person. I agreed to it (I was a lot less bitter at that point in my life) and, of course he found nothing. He later explained to me that he was called because I fit the description of someone who'd apparently stolen from them the week prior.

- When I was 12, while walking home in Morgan Park, IL with a group of friends, 3 white men in a normal car rode by and yelled something (to this day, I don't know what they said) out the window at us. Under the assumption that they yelled something racist, we yelled back and gave them the 1 finger salute. The car came to a screeching halt and pulled up on the curb in front of us. They showed us badges and threatened us with 'mob action'. While patting us down, they slammed my head on the car, for which I suffered a chipped front tooth. I told my mother that I chipped the tooth fighting. In hindsight, the officers were probably just wishing us luck with our homework and we mistook it for something else.

.... that's just a few of my encounters.
 
Ches said:
My son and I were having a conversation about the state of things in this country and he said something very similar to this. That the thug/gangsta image is almost glorified within certain segments of the black community, so why are they surprised when many white folks believe that is the norm or something to be proud of?
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I don't disagree with this at all Ches, and I've sat 'in the middle' of this for a very long time and it gets extremely tiring.
 
Richard Bare said:
Black men have literally branded themselves thugs happily for 25 years, being a thug is a badge of honor, now that Fox News and racist whites are running with it let the butthurt whining begin

This right here is why nobody takes black people and concerns seriously
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Ches said:
My son and I were having a conversation about the state of things in this country and he said something very similar to this. That the thug/gangsta image is almost glorified within certain segments of the black community, so why are they surprised when many white folks believe that is the norm or something to be proud of?
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And why does an incredibly small percentage of the whole speak for everyone unless it only serves to support already racialized feelings.
Show me a group of people where the youth don't pride themselves on being macho and "not giving a fuck" yet for everyone else the tough guy thing is a stage and for us it's all we are.
 
jaisee said:
- My ex and I were once pulled over in Lincoln Park, up in Illinois. I was about 21 at the time, she was 19. Some of the questions that the officers asked her ranged from 'are you ok?' when she had no look of being in distress on her face to 'do your parents know where you're at?' She was far more miffed than I was at the encounter. The cops left me with a ticket for a 'rolling stop' as a nice parting gift.

- Again, in my early 20's. While driving through Lisle, Il to go to the Bulls/SOX academy to play basketball I was 'escorted' literally from the moment I got off the expressway all the way to my final destination.

- The same happened to me in a community in Coral Springs, FL while driving to spend the night at my ex's. I called her and asked her to come downstairs to meet me, just in case. When they saw her approach me, they just drove off.

- In one city in Indiana (don't recall exactly which, but it had a population of about 1% black at the time), I had a Hollywood video manager call the police on me while I was there picking out movies and games with my white friend and his hispanic wife. The officer approached me and asked if he could check my person. I agreed to it (I was a lot less bitter at that point in my life) and, of course he found nothing. He later explained to me that he was called because I fit the description of someone who'd apparently stolen from them the week prior.

- When I was 12, while walking home in Morgan Park, IL with a group of friends, 3 white men in a normal car rode by and yelled something (to this day, I don't know what they said) out the window at us. Under the assumption that they yelled something racist, we yelled back and gave them the 1 finger salute. The car came to a screeching halt and pulled up on the curb in front of us. They showed us badges and threatened us with 'mob action'. While patting us down, they slammed my head on the car, for which I suffered a chipped front tooth. I told my mother that I chipped the tooth fighting. In hindsight, the officers were probably just wishing us luck with our homework and we mistook it for something else.

.... that's just a few of my encounters.
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On three separate occasions when I've had a pretty blonde girl with me in the car the cops have pulled me over and asked the girl if she was there of her own free will. Only with blonde women though.
 
jaisee said:
- My ex and I were once pulled over in Lincoln Park, up in Illinois. I was about 21 at the time, she was 19. Some of the questions that the officers asked her ranged from 'are you ok?' when she had no look of being in distress on her face to 'do your parents know where you're at?' She was far more miffed than I was at the encounter. The cops left me with a ticket for a 'rolling stop' as a nice parting gift.

- Again, in my early 20's. While driving through Lisle, Il to go to the Bulls/SOX academy to play basketball I was 'escorted' literally from the moment I got off the expressway all the way to my final destination.

- The same happened to me in a community in Coral Springs, FL while driving to spend the night at my ex's. I called her and asked her to come downstairs to meet me, just in case. When they saw her approach me, they just drove off.

- In one city in Indiana (don't recall exactly which, but it had a population of about 1% black at the time), I had a Hollywood video manager call the police on me while I was there picking out movies and games with my white friend and his hispanic wife. The officer approached me and asked if he could check my person. I agreed to it (I was a lot less bitter at that point in my life) and, of course he found nothing. He later explained to me that he was called because I fit the description of someone who'd apparently stolen from them the week prior.

- When I was 12, while walking home in Morgan Park, IL with a group of friends, 3 white men in a normal car rode by and yelled something (to this day, I don't know what they said) out the window at us. Under the assumption that they yelled something racist, we yelled back and gave them the 1 finger salute. The car came to a screeching halt and pulled up on the curb in front of us. They showed us badges and threatened us with 'mob action'. While patting us down, they slammed my head on the car, for which I suffered a chipped front tooth. I told my mother that I chipped the tooth fighting. In hindsight, the officers were probably just wishing us luck with our homework and we mistook it for something else.

.... that's just a few of my encounters.
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Unbelievable. I know I shouldn't be but I'm still so shocked by all this.
 
jaisee said:
- My ex and I were once pulled over in Lincoln Park, up in Illinois. I was about 21 at the time, she was 19. Some of the questions that the officers asked her ranged from 'are you ok?' when she had no look of being in distress on her face to 'do your parents know where you're at?' She was far more miffed than I was at the encounter. The cops left me with a ticket for a 'rolling stop' as a nice parting gift.

- Again, in my early 20's. While driving through Lisle, Il to go to the Bulls/SOX academy to play basketball I was 'escorted' literally from the moment I got off the expressway all the way to my final destination.

- The same happened to me in a community in Coral Springs, FL while driving to spend the night at my ex's. I called her and asked her to come downstairs to meet me, just in case. When they saw her approach me, they just drove off.

- In one city in Indiana (don't recall exactly which, but it had a population of about 1% black at the time), I had a Hollywood video manager call the police on me while I was there picking out movies and games with my white friend and his hispanic wife. The officer approached me and asked if he could check my person. I agreed to it (I was a lot less bitter at that point in my life) and, of course he found nothing. He later explained to me that he was called because I fit the description of someone who'd apparently stolen from them the week prior.

- When I was 12, while walking home in Morgan Park, IL with a group of friends, 3 white men in a normal car rode by and yelled something (to this day, I don't know what they said) out the window at us. Under the assumption that they yelled something racist, we yelled back and gave them the 1 finger salute. The car came to a screeching halt and pulled up on the curb in front of us. They showed us badges and threatened us with 'mob action'. While patting us down, they slammed my head on the car, for which I suffered a chipped front tooth. I told my mother that I chipped the tooth fighting. In hindsight, the officers were probably just wishing us luck with our homework and we mistook it for something else.

.... that's just a few of my encounters.
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The Dark King said:
On three separate occasions when I've had a pretty blonde girl with me in the car the cops have pulled me over and asked the girl if she was there of her own free will. Only with blonde women though.
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Ah, to be a Black man in America. I'm lucky that I haven't had too many run-ins with the police but if I didn't wear a suit most days I know that I'd be going through the exact same shit.

Here's hoping that one day we can truly live in a post-racial society...but I won't hold my breath.
 
pettyofficerj said:
Lol....shit



A lot of people discuss blacks.....and it's not because they 'care' about us

:p
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More people care than what you might think...kids from elementary through high school are walking out of classes and marching on capital hill in major cities all across the USA...200 people shut down I36 in boulder county yesterday during rush hour in protest...boulder county is one of the richest counties in the USA ...full of white privilege that do not agree with police brutality...to say white people don't care is just not true...
 
lippy said:
More people care than what you might think...kids from elementary through high school are walking out of classes and marching on capital hill in major cities all across the USA...200 people shut down I36 in boulder county yesterday during rush hour in protest...boulder county is one of the richest counties in the USA ...full of white privilege that do not agree with police brutality...to say white people don't care is just not true...
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FUCK LET ME TROLL IN PEACE

Kthxbye

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Seriously if u follow me like twitter, u know I'm very vocal about the love being shown all over the world

If white people generally didn't care about blacks, those marches from 1960s and beyond would look very different

As I said before, you also can't assume someone 'cares' about blacks just because they are black themselves

That's just gotdamn horseshit
 
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