Cultural Appropriation Rue from The Hunger Games Speaks Up

[The Dark King]

LOL. Damn.
Truth is truth.

If you're not learning something what's the point???

I personally like being corrected on things I say that are wrong because I hate making left-turns in conversations when I don't know where I'm going.

BTW I know plenty of Black folk who appropriate 'White' appearance, hair straightening and contact lenses, who will talk shit about White people in a minute.

There's so much cultural overlap in America that at some point everything becomes part of the dominant culture.

So Italian/Black/Irish/Mexican/Chinese/Japanese/(American and East)Indian, etc, eventually becomes American culture.

My mom took my to St. Patrick's Day parades all the time when I was little because it was a huge event where we lived and partly to increase my cultural literacy.

It hurts when people are borrowing from another group or culture and don't know where the inspiration comes from.

Iggy Azeala bugs the fuck out of people because she's using of very specific kind of Black regional dialect when she raps that's totally phony.
It's almost a verbal form of Blackface.
She doesn't give a fuck either that she's offensive.

What Iggy is doing would be like a White guy talking in a broken, stereotypical Indian convenience store dialect and expecting to be taken seriously.

Eminem on the other hand has a unique cadence and style in his flow, but he isn't trying to sound like he grew up Black IMO.

I don't like when comic book movies change the race of characters either.
Growing up some of the White people I related to best were fictional characters in comic books.

Guys like Tony Stark, Bruce Wayne, Matt Murdock, Peter Parker, Logan, etc., were all White dudes, but they were like the coolest PEOPLE ever in part because they had no color bias at all.

Their loyalty to their White characters was equal to their non White ones.

They were human beings first, White second and that's what made reading comic books great as a kid.

If it's hype in the Black community, it's going to be hype nationwide eventually. That's just how it's always been.

From jazz music to Elvis learning how to swivel his hips and howl on the mike sitting at the back of Black juke joints in Memphis.

When people try to front like they INVENTED something they didn't, that's when I really have a problem.

Fair post. I will say this in reference to black people hair straightening, that's not appropriation that's assimilation because if they don't assimilate they have less opportunities. How many times have we heard of blacks not advancing or getting a job because their hair was natural or "kinky"
It's not the same as people adopting a certain culture for amusement or even self improvement while looking down on said people they've borrowed from.

 

[pettyofficerj]

Fair post. I will say this in reference to black people hair straightening, that's not appropriation that's assimilation because if they don't assimilate they have less opportunities. How many times have we heard of blacks not advancing or getting a job because their hair was natural or "kinky"
It's not the same as people adopting a certain culture for amusement or even self improvement while looking down on said people they've borrowed from.

The fact that you deemed it necessary to write this, shows you how out of touch with reality this place is

 

[The Dark King]

The fact that you deemed it necessary to write this, shows you how out of touch with reality this place is

Always goes back to that false equivalency people seem to over look for some reason.I get why non black people do it because they aren't as intimate with the challenges but it's always weird when black folk do it.
The playing field is not nor has it ever been leveled.

 

[goodlove]

actually...straightening is associated with "good hair"..nothing to do with getting a job.

good hair. good hair. thats a phrase blacks use all the time.

straightening hair was more of a self esteem thing.

str8ing hair goes back to madam cj walker

Fair post. I will say this in reference to black people hair straightening, that's not appropriation that's assimilation because if they don't assimilate they have less opportunities. How many times have we heard of blacks not advancing or getting a job because their hair was natural or "kinky"
It's not the same as people adopting a certain culture for amusement or even self improvement while looking down on said people they've borrowed from.

 

[The Dark King]

actually...straightening is associated with "good hair"..nothing to do with getting a job.

good hair. good hair. thats a phrase blacks use all the time.

straightening hair was more of a self esteem thing.

str8ing hair goes back to madam cj walker

Good hair was associated with positions given to you ie jobs
Do I really need to explain the field slave house slave difference?

 

[Beasty]

The fact that you deemed it necessary to write this, shows you how out of touch with reality this place is

It's like a soup sandwich these days. Now look at goodloves' response...... Lol

actually...straightening is associated with "good hair"..nothing to do with getting a job.

good hair. good hair. thats a phrase blacks use all the time.

straightening hair was more of a self esteem thing.

str8ing hair goes back to madam cj walker

 

[goodlove]

It's like a soup sandwich these days. Now look at goodloves' response...... Lol

the fact is they never heard the phrase "good hair" is disturbing.....smh.

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[Beasty]

the fact is they never heard the phrase "good hair" is disturbing.....smh.

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Lmao is it?

 

[The Dark King]

the fact is they never heard the phrase "good hair" is disturbing.....smh.

.

Who said we haven't but if you think "good hair" is rooted in vanity and no actual advancement then you haven't paid much attention kid

 

[goodlove]

Who said we haven't but if you think "good hair" is rooted in vanity and no actual advancement then you haven't paid much attention kid

u stated str8 hair was about a job ..assimilating. im saying its deeper than that.

first.... KID ..... think on thus....good hair as oppose to what?

when they str8en out ...why?

dont forget about madam cj walker?

 

[The Dark King]

u stated str8 hair was about a job ..assimilating. im saying its deeper than that.

first.... KID ..... think on thus....good hair as oppose to what?

when they str8en out ...why?

dont forget about madam cj walker?

CJ Walker like Jobs and Gates responded to a need they didn't create the demand.
And "good hair" opposed to kinky, natural, nappy, black hair. People in power have always focused more on the lighter skinned straighter haired people. Look anywhere in the world to see that.

 

[pettyofficerj]

It's like a soup sandwich these days. Now look at goodloves' response...... Lol

Ra said it best........'dumb negro theater'

TDK has way more patience than i do to entertain this shit

Does anyone really think blacks were dying to have lighter skin or straighter hair before European colonization?

 

[The Dark King]

Ra said it best........'dumb negro theater'

TDK has way more patience than i do to entertain this shit

Does anyone really think blacks were dying to have lighter skin or straighter hair before European colonization?

White is right didn't you get the memo lol
Real talk dude is stuck in another era haven't you caught on to that by now?
He's not a bad guy just stuck

 

[pettyofficerj]

White is right didn't you get the memo lol
Real talk dude is stuck in another era haven't you caught on to that by now?
He's not a bad guy just stuck

Workplace/media discrimination against 'black' hairstyles has been in the news for the past few years....along with stories about how whites hold lighter blacks in higher esteem than dark ones.........and he thinks this shit is a vanity issue?



Don't even get me started on ethnic names vs European ones and getting a fucking job

 

[andreboba]

Slavery and colonialism may have started self-hate in the Black community, but its perpetuation especially since the Black Power days of the late 1960s and early '70s, let's just say we need to check our own backyard.

Anyway, I think I should have said the popularity of hair extensions in the Black community instead of Black women straightening their hair.

Good hair in the Black community just means your White blood ancestry made your hair less nappy.
It's not necessarily a reference to getting jobs or being employed.

I don't think Black men getting their hair conked in the 1930s and '40s increased their likelihood of becoming employed.

 

[The Dark King]

Slavery and colonialism may have started self-hate in the Black community, but its perpetuation especially since the Black Power days of the late 1960s and early '70s, let's just say we need to check our own backyard.

Anyway, I think I should have said the popularity of hair extensions in the Black community instead of Black women straightening their hair.

Good hair in the Black community just means your White blood ancestry made your hair less nappy.
It's not necessarily a reference to getting jobs or being employed.

I don't think Black men getting their hair conked in the 1930s and '40s increased their likelihood of becoming employed.

Answer yes or no. Does appearance matter?
Is it more likely that an appearance that someone is comfortable with makes it easier to get a job?
Does appearance help in advancing in certain jobs?

Yes or no please

 

[Bliss]

LOL. Damn.
Truth is truth.

If you're not learning something what's the point???

I personally like being corrected on things I say that are wrong because I hate making left-turns in conversations when I don't know where I'm going.

BTW I know plenty of Black folk who appropriate 'White' appearance, hair straightening and contact lenses, who will talk shit about White people in a minute.

There's so much cultural overlap in America that at some point everything becomes part of the dominant culture.

So Italian/Black/Irish/Mexican/Chinese/Japanese/(American and East)Indian, etc, eventually becomes American culture.

My mom took my to St. Patrick's Day parades all the time when I was little because it was a huge event where we lived and partly to increase my cultural literacy.

It hurts when people are borrowing from another group or culture and don't know where the inspiration comes from.

Iggy Azeala bugs the fuck out of people because she's using of very specific kind of Black regional dialect when she raps that's totally phony.
It's almost a verbal form of Blackface.
She doesn't give a fuck either that she's offensive.

What Iggy is doing would be like a White guy talking in a broken, stereotypical Indian convenience store dialect and expecting to be taken seriously.

Eminem on the other hand has a unique cadence and style in his flow, but he isn't trying to sound like he grew up Black IMO.

I don't like when comic book movies change the race of characters either.
Growing up some of the White people I related to best were fictional characters in comic books.

Guys like Tony Stark, Bruce Wayne, Matt Murdock, Peter Parker, Logan, etc., were all White dudes, but they were like the coolest PEOPLE ever in part because they had no color bias at all.

Their loyalty to their White characters was equal to their non White ones.

They were human beings first, White second and that's what made reading comic books great as a kid.

If it's hype in the Black community, it's going to be hype nationwide eventually. That's just how it's always been.

From jazz music to Elvis learning how to swivel his hips and howl on the mike sitting at the back of Black juke joints in Memphis.

When people try to front like they INVENTED something they didn't, that's when I really have a problem.

For real. If someone spits a fact to me, l will research it and they get the last word on it if it's true. I love knowledge. How do you function in informative conversations otherwise.

Btw, the other points you made were very interesting. People do borrow from other cultures all the time and not like the inventers. The NOl wear suits whose fashion was Invented by the British, and now ties by the Croats...so hey ...And damn if the middle east don't borrow from American culture...

But in true seriousness, this topic will be be rendered moot in a few decades because the only influential culture that will exist is the Hispanic culture. Mucho Gracias.

 

[pettyofficerj]

Slavery and colonialism may have started self-hate in the Black community, but its perpetuation especially since the Black Power days of the late 1960s and early '70s, let's just say we need to check our own backyard.

Anyway, I think I should have said the popularity of hair extensions in the Black community instead of Black women straightening their hair.

Good hair in the Black community just means your White blood ancestry made your hair less nappy.
It's not necessarily a reference to getting jobs or being employed.

I don't think Black men getting their hair conked in the 1930s and '40s increased their likelihood of becoming employed.

This is sarcasm right?

Show me one nappy-headed black guy that was successful during that time period and I won't post for a week

Most guys I've seen had good hair or something else that doesn't grow naturally on brothas

Don't even get me started on the sistas.....

 

[The Dark King]

This is sarcasm right?

Show me one nappy-headed black guy that was successful during that time period and I won't post for a week

Most guys I've seen had good hair or something else that doesn't grow naturally on brothas

Don't even get me started on the sistas.....

In the US or abroad because I was about drop Marcus Garvey on you

 

[pettyofficerj]

In the US or abroad because I was about drop Marcus Garvey on you

After a quick google search........it looks like I won't be posting for a week