Rachel Dolezal NAACP controversy

pettyofficerj said:
The real question on my mind tho.....does she get to say nigga
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If that's how you define real Blackness, you've summed up in 13 words why the Black community in this country is so fucked.

A race(pun intended) to the bottom with the bros on the corner mapping the trip.:smt009
 
andreboba said:
Melissa Harris Perry did a nice breakdown today about this story.

One of her more interesting arguments was why is this woman considered mentally disturbed for 'passing' as Black??

As if a White woman would have to be insane to give up her racial privilege and live her life as a Black woman.

Her work as the head of the Spokane NAACP suggests the woman is highly dedicated and very sane.

She's lived much of her life as a Black woman and caught hell for it.

Basically race in America is what you look like and can get away with, culture is something a little different.

It all seems like a David Chappelle sketch, but one of the national directors of the NAACP said Rachel Dolezal's race is irrelevant.

Dolezal isn't appropriating Black culture for financial or artistic gain.

She has chosen to be Black because it's the only classification that defines how she lives her life.

The deconstruction of race in America is always an interesting phenomenon.

Dolezal may be an unusual woman at face value, but I stand by the fact her heart is right.

The Black community in America historically has been the destination of last hope for the illicit offspring of White and Black couplings, it's strange to me we're now kicking a WW out of the club for 'passing' as Black when the opposite literally happens all the time.

IMO when a WW has biracial kids with a BM, she de facto becomes a 'Black mom', and by association I can understand how a woman in that situation starts seeing herself as Black.
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The thing is though, she didn't give up her actual 'privilege' as stated... at any time she can go back to being white. That's a privilege a black woman doesn't get, so it's not about that 'it's so bad to be black 'Why did people rip Sammy Sosa for going white, but can't her.

She could easily have aligned herself with the black community, saying she relates to them, she's there for them.
She essentially profited from being black... she go 2 cushi positions perpetuating to be black.

I knew a white man who was not able to become a police officer due to a minority consent decree in Philadelphia...he tried a second ttime by putting on his application that he was black and he was accepted. Reaal black people have to deal with the real issues of being black, but we see there are people who will take advantage of the compensation given to them to try to level the playing field.

If she's not emotionally disturbed, then she's having an identity crisis or just plain hoodwinking everyone.
 
Bliss said:
Well to be fair...she is a woman...but 'ain't nuthin like being a black woman in affirmative action. Dolezal knew.
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That's crap if you think Dolezal started representing herself as Black because of affirmative action, as if skin color is the ONLY qualifier under AA.

Dolezal lived much of her adult life as a Black woman and represented herself as such.
That goes way beyond scamming admissions into a school.

BTW, how many Black folk even live in Washington state?? I doubt she took a spot from a deserving candidate.
 
pettyofficerj said:
Seriously twitter is hilarious...that's where I seen the Brian Williams meme claiming he is her black father/did his undergrad at Howard (hbcu), etc

And yes....when jenner hit the block, I predicted this liberal madness would hit other areas

Some are saying you can't compare the two, others are saying you can

In the realm of accepting people for who they are and supporting them, you most definitely can compare them

Spokane city is saying that she lied on an application about her race when applying for a position, and we all know race does play a factor when spaces are looking to add people of color for diversity

This is the issue here
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She didn't get paid for that. The question is did she address the concerns of black people while she was in that position.
 
Ra said:
FIXED.


Washington State is not Idaho. Thank You.
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According to the 2010 U.S. Census, roughly 3.7% of Washington State is Black. Less than Alaska, Colorado and Arizona.

It may not be Idaho, but it's close.lol:smt069

I still don't believe this woman was perpetrating being Black for any real advantage.

She was about that life.
Once she had Black babies it was a wrap.:smt036

So far the NAACP still supports her. We'll see how that goes.
 
andreboba said:
Melissa Harris Perry did a nice breakdown today about this story.

One of her more interesting arguments was why is this woman considered mentally disturbed for 'passing' as Black??

As if a White woman would have to be insane to give up her racial privilege and live her life as a Black woman.

Her work as the head of the Spokane NAACP suggests the woman is highly dedicated and very sane.

She's lived much of her life as a Black woman and caught hell for it.

Basically race in America is what you look like and can get away with, culture is something a little different.

It all seems like a David Chappelle sketch, but one of the national directors of the NAACP said Rachel Dolezal's race is irrelevant.

Dolezal isn't appropriating Black culture for financial or artistic gain.

She has chosen to be Black because it's the only classification that defines how she lives her life.

The deconstruction of race in America is always an interesting phenomenon.

Dolezal may be an unusual woman at face value, but I stand by the fact her heart is right.

The Black community in America historically has been the destination of last hope for the illicit offspring of White and Black couplings, it's strange to me we're now kicking a WW out of the club for 'passing' as Black when the opposite literally happens all the time.

IMO when a WW has biracial kids with a BM, she de facto becomes a 'Black mom', and by association I can understand how a woman in that situation starts seeing herself as Black.
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lot of truth here.

Show me an individual who has not lied & I will show u someone who walks on water

I hate to generalize but for most part the definition of a liar is-anyone who tells me has not told a single lie in their entire life, is a liar. Most human beings are far from perfect. We tell lie or color or shade the truth here and there…..

Did this lady lie? YES, Should she have been truthful about her identity from get go? Of course yes. But she has not harmed anyone. Yes she has lied about some incidents probably that never happened to get attention what not but I think her heart was in the right place. She has dedicated her life studying the blk experience in America, fighting for equality cause, trying to advance the civil right cause. Heck, she probably has done more positive things for the blk community than most blks in here including my blk ass.

I could be wrong here but from what I heard she has not benefited that much from being black, no scholarships, no perks, etc…. Last I checked, to be part of NAACP, you don’t have to be blk; I never knew that you got have certain skin pigmentation to qualify for membership. She is not the first non blk to be a member of a civil right activist group and she aint gonna be the last.
Why don’t we give her a chance to explain b4 we throw her under the bus. She stated her case is complex; it might be…..She probably always felt that she was black. She had adopted blk siblings, she went to college in Mississippi (I would not attend a school in that state even if you give me full ride scholarsip and a post graduation guarantee job, no offense to The Magnolia State folks), she attended Howard Univ for her graduate work (there are blks who has/had opportunity to attend HSBCU but that will chose other Univ over that in heart beat), isnt she married to BM & helping to raise her blk siblings? heck she has got more blk friends and goes to most blk fuction that some of my blk "pro blk" friends, lol...

There are ppl out there who would wish they were born different than who or what they are, she is not the first. Identify crisis runs deep. We all say live and live, why don’t we let her live, & give her a chance to explain. Shieeeet, we accepted kaitlyn choice and supported her cause not too long ago as she was gracing the Vanity fair cover but this lady has to be thrown under the high speed city bus?.

But I still say she should not have lied in the first place but now that she has, we have to evaluate and look deeper in to the situation before start throwing judgments. Whoever has not sin should cast the first stone.

My .02 cents, I know my view ain't gonna be popular, now y’al can bring the firing squad and hang me upside down on some tree.

Peace
 
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andreboba said:
According to the 2010 U.S. Census, roughly 3.7% of Washington State is Black. Less than Alaska, Colorado and Arizona.

It may not be Idaho, but it's close.lol:smt069
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There's a reason why I put up Eastern Washington and Idaho. Very low Black population on that side of the state compared to the very diverse western side as well as a lot of Neo Nazi activity, mostly coming from...Idaho, the White Homeland of the West. But what do I know compared to a five year old census report. I just live here....
 
z said:
lot of truth here.

Show me an individual who has not lied & I will show u someone who walks on water

I hate to generalize but for most part the definition of a liar is-anyone who tells me has not told a single lie in their entire life, is a liar. Most human beings are far from perfect. We tell lie or color or shade the truth here and there…..

Did this lady lie? YES, Should she have been truthful about her identity from get go? Of course yes. But she has not harmed anyone. Yes she has lied about some incidents probably that never happened to get attention what not but I think her heart was in the right place. She has dedicated her life studying the blk experience in America, fighting for equality cause, trying to advance the civil right cause. Heck, she probably has done more positive things for the blk community than most blks in here including my blk ass.

I could be wrong here but from what I heard she has not benefited that much from being black, no scholarships, no perks, etc…. Last I checked, to be part of NAACP, you don’t have to be blk; I never knew that you got have certain skin pigmentation to qualify for membership. She is not the first non blk to be a member of a civil right activist group and she aint gonna be the last.
Why don’t we give her a chance to explain b4 we throw her under the bus. She stated he case is complex; it might be…..She probably always felt that she was black. She had adopted blk siblings, she went to college in Mississippi (I would not attend a school in that state even if you give me full ride scholarsip and a post graduation guarantee job, no offense to The Magnolia State folks), she attended Howard Univ for her graduate work (there are blks who has/had opportunity to attend HSBCU but that will chose other Univ over that in heart beat)

There are ppl out there who would wish they were born different than who or what they are, she is not the first. Identify crisis runs deep. We all say live and live, why don’t we let her live, & give her a chance to explain. Shieeeet, we accepted kaitlyn choice and supported her cause not too long ago as she was gracing the Vanity fair cover but this lady throw her under the high speed city bus….

But I still say she should not have lied in the first place but now that she has who have to evaluate and look deeper in to the situation before start throwing judgments. Whoever has not sin cast the first stone.

My .02 cents, I know my view ain't gonna be popular, now y’al can bring the firing squad and hang me upside down on some tree.

Peace
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Good post. No Mississippi for me either, not now not ever. No offense folks.
 
Ra said:
There's a reason why I put up Eastern Washington and Idaho. Very low Black population on that side of the state compared to the very diverse western side as well as a lot of Neo Nazi activity, mostly coming from...Idaho, the White Homeland of the West. But what do I know compared to a five year old census report. I just live here....
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Lmao
 
z said:
lot of truth here.

Show me an individual who has not lied & I will show u someone who walks on water

I hate to generalize but for most part the definition of a liar is-anyone who tells me has not told a single lie in their entire life, is a liar. Most human beings are far from perfect. We tell lie or color or shade the truth here and there…..

Did this lady lie? YES, Should she have been truthful about her identity from get go? Of course yes. But she has not harmed anyone. Yes she has lied about some incidents probably that never happened to get attention what not but I think her heart was in the right place. She has dedicated her life studying the blk experience in America, fighting for equality cause, trying to advance the civil right cause. Heck, she probably has done more positive things for the blk community than most blks in here including my blk ass.

I could be wrong here but from what I heard she has not benefited that much from being black, no scholarships, no perks, etc…. Last I checked, to be part of NAACP, you don’t have to be blk; I never knew that you got have certain skin pigmentation to qualify for membership. She is not the first non blk to be a member of a civil right activist group and she aint gonna be the last.
Why don’t we give her a chance to explain b4 we throw her under the bus. She stated he case is complex; it might be…..She probably always felt that she was black. She had adopted blk siblings, she went to college in Mississippi (I would not attend a school in that state even if you give me full ride scholarsip and a post graduation guarantee job, no offense to The Magnolia State folks), she attended Howard Univ for her graduate work (there are blks who has/had opportunity to attend HSBCU but that will chose other Univ over that in heart beat), isnt she married to BM & helping to raise her blk siblings. heck she has got more bl friends and goes to most blk fuction that some of my blk "pro blk" friends, lol...

There are ppl out there who would wish they were born different than who or what they are, she is not the first. Identify crisis runs deep. We all say live and live, why don’t we let her live, & give her a chance to explain. Shieeeet, we accepted kaitlyn choice and supported her cause not too long ago as she was gracing the Vanity fair cover but this lady throw her under the high speed city bus….

But I still say she should not have lied in the first place but now that she has who have to evaluate and look deeper in to the situation before start throwing judgments. Whoever has not sin cast the first stone.

My .02 cents, I know my view ain't gonna be popular, now y’al can bring the firing squad and hang me upside down on some tree.

Peace
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I've never sinned, cursed or lied in my entire fucking life...especially for a job
 
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Huh what?
 
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