Greatest Superhero Movies of All Time

I cannot have a(n) [adult] conversation with a [baby]man who reacts the way you do. You haven't even provided a proper argument for your claim. Period. You're just proving that you're just completely wrong.

Oh so now you read your own stuff and you saw how you were acting.

..lol..now you want to try to have an adult convo ?

Im very rite...hes not a super hero.
 
I cannot have a(n) [adult] conversation with a [baby]man who reacts the way you do. You haven't even provided a proper argument for your claim. Period. You're just proving that you're just completely wrong.

Go look at your posts and who from the start throwing insults? U.

I gave definitions and back them up why.

Youre mad because someone disagrees. Lol

Lol

Lol

Prove urself rite. U havent shown anything.
 
You've provided definitions which strengthened my argument. Don't get mad because you cannot provide a proper rebuttal on a subject matter that you had no prior knowledge of, minus one or two B-movies you saw from a side view. I've exposed you on that, and your only response is coming off too desperate and thirsty.

Go look at your posts and who from the start throwing insults? U.

I gave definitions and back them up why.

Youre mad because someone disagrees.
 
You've provided definitions which strengthened my argument. Don't get mad because you cannot provide a proper rebuttal on a subject matter that you had no prior knowledge of, minus one or two B-movies you saw from a side view. I've exposed you on that, and your only response is coming off too desperate and thirsty.
Even your own citations dont line totally with u.

U havent shown anything concrete. Keep trying.
 
You're too desperate, despite knowing that you've shown to be clearly wrong. You chose to ignore facts, which I've provided. Intellectual dishonesty is not going to save you, BS.

Even your own citations dont line totally with u.

U havent shown anything concrete. Keep trying.
 
You're too desperate, despite knowing that you've shown to be clearly wrong. You chose to ignore facts, which I've provided. Intellectual dishonesty is not going to save you, BS.

I looked at what u posted...u said nothing that was moving. I picked it apart. Again with insults. Lol


Show me something.

What u got?
 
You didn't pick anything apart. You tried, but failed...miserably, I might add. The Punisher, an anti-hero, has demonstrated superhuman feats (examples provided), which you've ignored because you know very well I am right on this matter. Being dismissive is as bad as denying gravity.

I looked at what u posted...u said nothing that was moving. I picked it apart. Again with insults. Lol


Show me something.

What u got?
 
The definition u provided doesnt agree with u. Lets look.


the longstanding Merriam-Webster dictionary gives the definition as "a fictional hero having extraordinary or superhuman powers; also : an exceptionally skillful or successful person".

Fictional character....then the second definition refers to a person (human).

When it refers to a human they use it flippantly to tgeir acts. As with what it lines up to what i stated earlier.

Try again.


Also, I will refer to something else to further illustrate my point. Good ol' Wikipedia footnotes, where the sources come from...

Definition of Superhero

And notice the numbers in the brackets? They will automatically take you to the bottom, showing the footnotes. In this case...



Now, let us observe the footnote...

Per sources including
Niccum, John (March 17, 2006). "'V for Vendetta' is S for Subversive". Lawrence Journal-World (Lawrence, Kansas). Archived from the original on November 14, 2014.
Gesh, Lois H.; Weinberg, Robert (2002). "The Dark Knight: Batman: A NonSuper Superhero". The Science of Superheroes (PDF). John Wiley & Sons. ISBN 978-0-471-02460-6. Archived from the original on November 18, 2014.
Lovece, Frank (July 16, 2008). "The Dark Knight". (movie review) Film Journal International. Archived from the original on November 7, 2014. Batman himself is an anomaly as one of the few superheroes without superpowers…
While the Dictionary.com definition of "superhero" is "A figure, especially in a comic strip or cartoon, endowed with superhuman powers and usually portrayed as fighting evil or crime," the longstanding Merriam-Webster dictionary gives the definition as "a fictional hero having extraordinary or superhuman powers; also : an exceptionally skillful or successful person".

In other words, I've been making this case the whole time, thus I'm in the right, and you, while merely reiterating my points, either unknowingly, or unaware, while trying to point to the opposing argument, are wrong.
 
Even your own wiki is ambigoud at best.

Try again...i pointed out their own doubts.

Try again.

Also, I will refer to something else to further illustrate my point. Good ol' Wikipedia footnotes, where the sources come from...

Definition of Superhero

And notice the numbers in the brackets? They will automatically take you to the bottom, showing the footnotes. In this case...



Now, let us observe the footnote...

Per sources including
Niccum, John (March 17, 2006). "'V for Vendetta' is S for Subversive". Lawrence Journal-World (Lawrence, Kansas). Archived from the original on November 14, 2014.
Gesh, Lois H.; Weinberg, Robert (2002). "The Dark Knight: Batman: A NonSuper Superhero". The Science of Superheroes (PDF). John Wiley & Sons. ISBN 978-0-471-02460-6. Archived from the original on November 18, 2014.
Lovece, Frank (July 16, 2008). "The Dark Knight". (movie review) Film Journal International. Archived from the original on November 7, 2014. Batman himself is an anomaly as one of the few superheroes without superpowers…
While the Dictionary.com definition of "superhero" is "A figure, especially in a comic strip or cartoon, endowed with superhuman powers and usually portrayed as fighting evil or crime," the longstanding Merriam-Webster dictionary gives the definition as "a fictional hero having extraordinary or superhuman powers; also : an exceptionally skillful or successful person".

In other words, I've been making this case the whole time, thus I'm in the right, and you, while merely reiterating my points, either unknowingly, or unaware, while trying to point to the opposing argument, are wrong.

You didn't pick anything apart. You tried, but failed...miserably, I might add. The Punisher, an anti-hero, has demonstrated superhuman feats (examples provided), which you've ignored because you know very well I am right on this matter. Being dismissive is as bad as denying gravity.
 
Good job on not even reading. Let's look at the history...

The word "superhero" dates to at least 1917.[2] Antecedents of the archetype include such folkloric heroes as Robin Hood, who adventured in distinctive clothing.[3] The 1903 play The Scarlet Pimpernel and its spinoffs popularized the idea of a masked avenger and the superhero trope of a secret identity;[3] shortly afterward, masked and costumed pulp-fiction characters such as Zorro (1919) and comic-strip heroes such as the Phantom (1936) began appearing, as did non-costumed characters with super strength, including Patoruzú (1928), the comic-strip character Popeye (1929) and novelist Philip Wylie's protagonist Hugo Danner (1930).[4] Both trends came together in superpowered, costumed heroes such as ?gon Bat (1931), visualized in painted panels used by kamishibai oral storytellers in Japan,[5][6] and the first comic-book superhero, Superman (1938)

Early superhero films were produced in the 1940s, during the Golden Age of Comic Books, but interest lagged during the Cold War era; the form resurfaced in the late 1970s, and after 2000 developed into a number of highly profitable franchises.

In other words, the definition of superhero, provided not just from the article, but the entire page, based on those findings, further reinforced the fact that characters like the Punisher can be deemed super or share superhuman qualities. When you have people like Robin Hood, who lacks powers, can be identified as such, why is it difficult to accept the fact that even other nonpowered characters can be considered superheroes in that sense?

Going back to my initial post about the more universal term, where a superhero is able to perform feats that an average human cannot perform on their own or mostly on their own, is more accurate to describe such a character. Superhero predates the comics, which further strengthens my point.

The definition u provided doesnt agree with u. Lets look.


the longstanding Merriam-Webster dictionary gives the definition as "a fictional hero having extraordinary or superhuman powers; also : an exceptionally skillful or successful person".

Fictional character....then the second definition refers to a person (human).

When it refers to a human they use it flippantly to tgeir acts. As with what it lines up to what i stated earlier.

Try again.
 
You are merely picking and choosing what you want to read and interpret because the writers of many of these articles have a greater understanding of it than you. Again, you are speaking out of sheer desperation.

Even your own wiki is ambigoud at best.

Try again...i pointed out their own doubts.

Try again.
 
It said sometimes and other words that atates its up to interpretation.

Also...you even contradicted yourself in using the definition.

Go back and read your posts and see your own contradiction.



Good job on not even reading. Let's look at the history...



In other words, the definition of superhero, provided not just from the article, but the entire page, based on those findings, further reinforced the fact that characters like the Punisher can be deemed super or share superhuman qualities. When you have people like Robin Hood, who lacks powers, can be identified as such, why is it difficult to accept the fact that even other nonpowered characters can be considered superheroes in that sense?

Going back to my initial post about the more universal term, where a superhero is able to perform feats that an average human cannot perform on their own or mostly on their own. Superhero predates the comics, which further strengthens my point.
 
You are merely picking and choosing what you want to read and interpret because the writers of many of these articles have a greater understanding of it than you. Again, you are speaking out of sheer desperation.

No im not. Its called reading and interpreting.
When the article says most and sometimes....what does that mean.
 
The statements I've provided are actually much closer to what the source material demonstrates and the characters in those worlds, which isn't immutable, by the way and not to be pigeonholed. And no, I haven't contradicted myself. You have been doing that with your posts, ever since I've proved you wrong.

It said sometimes and other words that atates its up to interpretation.

Also...you even contradicted yourself in using the definition.

Go back and read your posts and see your own contradiction.
 
It means the dissenting individuals would pigeonhole the definition, which I've already stated in the initial post, and inaccurately keep the terms compartmentalized to merely characters with powers...which is disingenuous (or "purist" in a PC sense).

No im not. Its called reading and interpreting.
When the article says most and sometimes....what does that mean.
 
It means the dissenting individuals would pigeonhole the definition, which I've already stated in the initial post, and inaccurately keep the terms compartmentalized to merely characters with powers...which is disingenuous (or "purist" in a PC sense).
Im sorry im not a purist. I dont get into it..comics

The definition you provided....backs me up.
It says fictional character ....... then it goes to state the word "person"(person by definition is a human). The punisher is not a human. Its a fictional chracter.
Thus it cant be a superhero.

Im just doing my matlock
 
I think your head's a bit screwed up.

He's a fictional character, yes, but he's part of the human race as well. Being a comic book or animated character doesn't make him less of a human being, so I'm not even sure what you're trying to prove now since you came off as...blatantly stupid.

You're really talking crazy now since...now you're suggesting that Bruce Banner/The Hulk, Carol Danvers/Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk, Peter Parker/Spider-Man, Steve Rogers/Captain America, Barry Allen/The Flash aren't considered superheroes because they are human?!

What the fuck?! Are you sure you are all there or you're only making yourself look more like a damned fool?

Im sorry im not a purist. I dont get into it..comics

The definition you provided....backs me up.
It says fictional character ....... then it goes to a person (person by definition is a human). The punisher is not a human. Its a fictional chracter.
Thus it cant be a superhero.
 
Why are you guys arguing so hard? You're totally sucking the fun out of this.
Plain and simple you do not have to have super powers to be a superhero. General consensus amongst fans of comics and movies is that Batman is a superhero, which is why so man people deem him the greatest because he doesn't need powers to be considered super. You can say the same about Green Arrow and Ironman.
 
Look at the definition....hes not human.....lol

Hes not a person.

Now u are really contradicting yourself.

I compared him to the character in die hard and u said apples to oranges.
Now u are moving the sticks.
I think your head's a bit screwed up.

He's a fictional character, yes, but he's part of the human race as well.

You're really talking crazy now since...now you're suggesting that Bruce Banner/The Hulk, Carol Danvers/Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk, Peter Parker/Spider-Man, Steve Rogers/Captain America, Barry Allen/The Flash aren't considered superheroes because they are human?!

What the fuck?! Are you sure you are all there or you're only making yourself look more like a damned fool?
 
What?

This fun.



Why are you guys arguing so hard? You're totally sucking the fun out of this.
Plain and simple you do not have to have super powers to be a superhero. General consensus amongst fans of comics and movies is that Batman is a superhero, which is why so man people deem him the greatest because he doesn't need powers to be considered super. You can say the same about Green Arrow and Ironman.
 
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