Harold Perrineau: Stop Saying My Daughter’s Not Black Enough for ‘Jem and the Hologra

TERRASTAR18 said:
i feel like i am going in circles. honestly you seem to deny the fact that two races literally means two races. simple question- is rachel dolezal ? she identifies herself as it...
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Rachel Dolezal doesn't have at least ONE black parent. So how does she fit with the logic you are trying to employ to make your point?
 
Ra said:
Rachel Dolezal doesn't have at least ONE black parent. So how does she fit with the logic you are trying to employ to make your point?
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i'm not claiming she is.....i'm using your own argument. if she identifies as black by your definition she is black,right?:D

and the criteria is two black parents.
 
TERRASTAR18 said:
your opinion is quite obvious....
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Having an opinion and "trying to make biracials black" isn't the same thing is it?

I just want to know how much black DNA do you think the average black person in this country has because percentages define black according to your definition.
 
orejon4 said:
I understand. It's a natural reaction to being slighted historically. Doesn't make it right, but it does provide an explanation. Man, the effed up stuff we humans do to each other.



My reading of this thread - particularly the first posts - gave me the sense that there were posts complaining about either 1) the casting of black actresses of a skin tone different from the original character in the source material or conversely 2) anger about the emphasis some put on the accuracy of the skin tone. I was simply adding that given the prevailing majority standards of beauty, some women are angry because totally African-looking women are rarely the leading roles in media. It makes sense to me but I only see a greater percentage of racially ambiguous women in the media on the horizon because of the increased mixing among the population. My comment seems consistent with the overall theme of the thread.
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Yeah it's kind of like we'll treat you like shit until "they" treat us like shit too so now we're all together
I can see someone adopting well you aren't really black because you're only black because someone else says you are but I (figurative I not me TDK) can't ever escape this shit and that's really defining straw of this whole thing.
Truthfully we're all a bunch of self important meat bags thinking we're special and love to create little dramas to define our existence. Unfortunately the majority of us are way too stupid and fearful to see that.
 
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There are no biological, nor genetic basis on "race." Phenotypical differences are not exclusive to any one group, given that race is nothing more but an institutionalized social construct, further perverse by a German psuedo-anthropologist by the name of Johann Blumenbach. Just because you hold the societal stigma of being identified based on region, doesn't make it so. Otherwise, it would be virtually biologically impossible for people to procreate, let alone communicate in a complex way compared to the non-human animal species within the animal kingdom.
 
orejon4 said:
Reminds me of what I used to call in my undergrad days "the Soul Patrol", those campus blackness police. Nothing short of total negritude was acceptable. I understand the need to counter prevailing imagery, but it went to the opposite extreme, almost demonizing people who were anything less than "pure African", whatever that was supposed to mean. Interestingly enough, I only saw African-Americans engaging in this, not Africans or other black groups on campus.
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These types never seem to use their time/energy/passion for Blackness in actually creating or doing anything of substance for Black people. Why not create and support their own characters/movies/roles and cast all the "real" black people they want instead of telling others how they should invest their time and money.
 
AlmostThere said:
These types never seem to use their time/energy/passion for Blackness in actually creating or doing anything of substance for Black people. Why not create and support their own characters/movies/roles and cast all the "real" black people they want instead of telling others how they should invest their time and money.
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The closest to that goal was BET before it was sold to Viacom. There are the plays of Tyler Perry and others. Then there are the underground venues in the larger cities and communities that are sponsored by the church. Called the "Chitlin Circuit," the audience is quite small and resources are limited. Not many whites go to these productions(none, actually). Some of them are off Broadway productions. BET used to encourage their viewers to support black owned businesses and artists. It used to cover sporting events at HSBCUs. Tyler Perry's success isn't enough(now that he has a committed relationship). Oprah Winfrey's success isn't enough. Not even President Barack Obama isn't enough. I think that black people are becoming more and more selfish these days.
 
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Gorath said:
The closest to that goal was BET before it was sold to Viacom. There are the plays of Tyler Perry and others. Then there are the underground venues in the larger cities and communities that are sponsored by the church. Called the "Chitlin Circuit," the audience is quite small and resources are limited. Not many whites go to these productions(none, actually). Some of them are off Broadway productions. BET used to encourage their viewers to support black owned businesses and artists. It used to cover sporting events at HSBCUs. Tyler Perry's success isn't enough(now that he has a committed relationship). Oprah Winfrey's success isn't enough. Not even President Barack Obama isn't enough. I think that black people are becoming more and more selfish these days.
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TERRASTAR18 said:
i understand what you are saying but my point with that is biracials still only makeup a small percentage of relationships most ppl still date their own race and my issue isn't mixed race ppl on tv. the issue is white supremacy where there are roles for 600 blondes but so few for poc that this whitewash can happen. my issue is harold is playing into this game.
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A valid point. There aren't even enough roles for non-white actors in numbers proportionate to our share of the general population. I think the interracial dating/marriage/childbirth numbers are going to continue to increase in the future and sharply so, and soon mixed race people will be far more visible in society generally. It doesn't address the lack of roles for wholly black women (or men, for that matter), but I think increased casting of actors of 'indeterminate race' is only going to worsen the problem. Sadly, it seems as if black (including the "somewhat black", lol) actors are going to be forced to squabble over a shrinking number of roles, rather than what should be happening: namely, decreasing the number of roles that go to white actors. After all, the white population is the segment that is decreasing as a share of the overall population. Shouldn't white actors be facing a decreasing number of roles overall, rather than continuing to have near-hegemony in Hollywood?

Shulz021 said:
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This makes me want to watch Psych! Lol

The Dark King said:
Yeah it's kind of like we'll treat you like shit until "they" treat us like shit too so now we're all together
I can see someone adopting well you aren't really black because you're only black because someone else says you are but I (figurative I not me TDK) can't ever escape this shit and that's really defining straw of this whole thing.
Truthfully we're all a bunch of self important meat bags thinking we're special and love to create little dramas to define our existence. Unfortunately the majority of us are way too stupid and fearful to see that.
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Your "human beings suck" stance is starting to make sense to me too...lol
 
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