samson1701
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1.) So this is why the dems NEVER get anything done for active duty military? Funny how they can get other things that they want badly enough.
They can get the affordable care act passed and can't get decent annual cost of living raises for active duty? Riiight.
2.) The democrats started the expansion of welfare and has always been for it while like most programs the republicans wanted to cut and do away with it.
The Dems provided the money for the programs at the federal level, the least they could have done was make laws to assure that the program would be administered properly.
You choose to absolve them of responsibility. According to that logic the people who fund terrorist activities are in no way responsible for terrorism.
The people who bring drugs into the country are in no way responsible for the destruction of thousands of communities because they were not the ones on the neighborhood block till 5 am.
The republican states administered welfare just as poorly as the democratic states but they didn't want the program at all to begin with.
3.) Props to Obama on this, but the constituency of the left could care less about this achievement.
4.) Have you paid any attention the the gun laws of New York, Cali, Washington D.C. and Chicago? That boogey man is real and the democrats created him.
5.) Based on what exactly? What would this system be modeled after??
1. I see what you're saying, but you have to remember something; politics. When it comes to this stuff we have to look past the result and look at the reasons why. Republicans were all for universal health care as far back as Nixon (Maybe even before that). Remember, the ACA is nothing more than a republican health plan. That's why Obama chose that model. He knew he could get it through. It was a win-win for both sides. Not to mention, it gave the republicans another issue they could fire up their base about. How often have you heard one of them say, "Elect me and I'll repeal Obamacare blah, blah and so forth!)? They were always going to eventually pass it. Except this way they could blame it on the Democrats.
Higher pay for the troops is another political game. Dems wanted to give every federal worker a wage hike of 3.8 to make up for years of no cost of living increases, but republicans said no. Think about this; as you said, the military largely votes to the right. If they begin to get good increases from democratic administrations, they will begin to vote democratic en mass. Especially given the fact that dems aren't as quick to send them into battle as the republicans are.
Which, to me, would be another reason to vote for dems if I were a soldier. Sure, a good bump in pay would be nice. But what good is it if I'm too dead to spend it. Especially if I died over oil fighting a country for no reason. The republicans know this. So, they are not about to give the dems a win with the military. They use the troops as pawns in more ways than one and it sucks.
2. Nope, how republicans run welfare in their states is all on them. Back in the late 80's early 90's that's what they clamored for; block grants with no strings attached. Republicans swore up and down they could do a better job, spend less money, and reduce the number of welfare recipients by getting them working if only the dems would just give them the money and get out of the way. So, Clinton signed off on it and fast forward almost 30 years and who has the highest number of welfare recipients? You guessed it, republican led states.
I'm sorry, but republicans deserve the blame on that, too. They got what they asked for and failed. You or I would be fired from a job for doing that.
3. It really depends. I think it's pretty fractious when it comes down to it on the left. I think location and occupation plays a big role in how important immigration is to the average liberal. But, you're right, a lot of us don't feel it's as big an issue as the right does.
4. There isn't a state in the union where gun ownership is illegal.
5. We can either start with one of the foreign examples and work out from there. Or, do our own thing and come up with a better way to do free college. It can be done successfully in the U.S. It has already been done successfully in the U.S.. California used to have a great free college program ... until Reagan. Republicans strike again.
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