100 Things You Need to Know About Women

[7Seven]

Flygirl,

I do find your anecdotes amusing...

I do love the fact you are quoting what I say, it lets me know, that I am always on your mind. Albeit it is all kind of romantic really - wouldn't you say? But the more you hate me, the more you will learn - just let it boil over into rage and my job is done. You will be about 10 points higher in IQ. But really, what do you know outside of your senses?

You will never want to challenge me in a debate because YOU KNOW you can never contend to my logical senses. Your mental laziness and intellectual myopia is prevalent in your rhetorical babble. Your IQ is average so that does not make your IQ any higher then any person of colour. It is AVERAGE! Your IQ definitely would not be higher then my own or Miss B's. I also love the use of your English vernacular. It is pitiful at best, maybe you should check yourself in special ed! Derrrrrqqq!!!!!!

Miss B,

You should know I do respect your level of intelligence and restraint because you have yet retorted to shaming language - even though I can be a bit of a brute when debating. And for that you have my respect. I was only testing your level of comprehension and mental control.

 

[SardonicGenie]

Throughout history, most of the world's greatest philosophers, scientists, and astrologers were men...

in fact, men are far more dynamic than women on average, especially when you count things that we fair better at the majority of the time, such as natural survival, warfare, labor work, resourcefulness, technology, art, music, and endurance.

Is there even any point my bringing up the plain fact that the majority of the so called "developed" world has been trapped in patriarchy since the dawn of time? That history for a thousand years was written by men, for men, because in the main part it wasn't even considered necessary for women to read? (After all, how would that quite help them fulfil their function as the chattels of their male counterparts?)

When people make claims that men are naturally superior and more accomplished than women in such a wide range of tasks, it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. Of course, men with a natural ability to develop strength, muscle and speed to rival women's, will excel in fields of physical strength, warfare and courage (although quite why it is an achievement to excel in warfare is something I remain to be convinced about, since I still see that as the root of many of the world's evils - and a field where men excel because it is a creation and perpetuated by men). Perhaps also in politics and in areas of life which are adversarial and competitive this is the case. But beyond that, if people here are going to use crude figures of "but men score higher in IQ than most women" then we have to take into account different factors. For one, IQ tests are merely one way to gauge intelligence, which are heavily weighted in favour of people with mathematical and pattern-oriented brains. Many women have this, but it is 'accepted' that men excel with one side of the brain whereas women with the other (the creative left hemisphere). In which case, let's look beyond at how many accomplished women exist in the field of the arts...and how many more there will be in a few decades' time. Then let's throw that in the mix with my first point about the history - and enduring nature - of patriarchal society and work out what has really been going on in the world.

I was just stating an overall fact...

which means that I wasn't implying that women can never excel in anything. I only said that men excel more in those things (NOT ONLY) and we do, and with all the freedom women have in today's time, they still fall behind in those things...

and, when Seven wrote that quote, he was just being his usual self, and has a point about white supremacy, because people of all demographics worldwide are deeply ingrained with it, in fact, you can see, hear, and sense it anywhere and everywhere, when you watch TV, listen to music, go shopping, travel the world, and read the newspaper.

I know how he meant it, so that's why I agreed with him about it, not because I believe in it myself. Fly Girl tried to use it to play the race card, when this discussion isn't about racial IQ, which is ludicrous and petty.

 

[SardonicGenie]

Flygirl and Miss B,

I am not talking about male superiority or female inferiority. To assert such a thing is absurd and foolish. What I am saying is - females lack the NECESSARY INTELLIGENCE to be independent - meaning: the intelligence of relative importance.

But you are right on one account - BM on average have lower IQ's then WM. I am not disputing that FACT. How can I - when ALL scientific evidence will say so? But that is only on AVERAGE. The average IQ is one standard above deviation - which I believe is 85-100, someone please correct if I am wrong.

It's not on average, especially if you counting all white men and Asian men versus all black men.

You should also know, higher levels of intelligence is an social construct, it is difficult to argue that cultural, environmental, gender, socio-economic, or educational discrepancies will not affect your level of intelligence. Which will explain why BM and women will have lower IQ levels then WM and Asians.

I somewhat agree with this part, since those things will have an impact on it.

It is also absurd to think BM and women do not have above average IQ or into the genius levels of comprehension.

This is why I somewhat disagree. To believe this is to insinuate that blacks and Hispanics need a more 'special' education than whites and Asians, especially if blacks and Hispanics are discriminated against in the American school system, by being placed in classes with the more remedial teachers.

Men and women of first class education such as Miss B and Myself is where you the separation. For every women with an IQ of 126 there will be 2 men. For every women with and IQ of 155, there will be 5 men. For every female with an IQ of 165, there will be 10 men. Again, this not to say females are inferior to men. It is just the FACTS. Any women of high intelligence will pursue Independence as a man would - aggressively, cutting off emotions and attachments, and the like. I sustain, this is not attractive to men, it will never be seen as feminine in the eyes of men. The idea of femininity to men is different then that of the women's and always will be. To aggressively peruse independence will land you single at the age of 40+ - that is another FACT society has a hard time swallowing. You can not separate the two - being loving, nurturing, and supportive because achieving Independence constitutes you shutting off those emotions. Another FACT!

So, with this conclusion of female independence, would you say that women are naturally dependent?

As Miss B mentioned there are different 'types' of intelligence. Linguistic intelligence ("word smart"), Logical-mathematical intelligence ("number/reasoning smart"), Spatial intelligence ("picture smart"), Bodily-Kinesthetic intelligence ("body smart"), Musical intelligence ("music smart"), Interpersonal intelligence ("people smart"), Intrapersonal intelligence ("self smart"), Naturalist intelligence ("nature smart"). But the constituent of these 'types' derives out general intelligence, which men, will edge out women as the level of education rises. It should never be mistaken as to be superior because there areas of these 'types' where women edge out men and always will. Multi -tasking and the sheer resilience to endore pain and suffering is almost unmeasurable in a female and men will never come close. But as I stated, we should NEVER confuse the nature of men and women; because it is as nature intends it and always will.

But, given that there still is a substantial debate about the nature of intelligence, and no one theory is accepted by all, there is still room for improvement on any given theory. This is why I believe to understand General Intelligence is inconceivable by Humans. There are too many people who believe there can be NO ABSOLUTE TRUTHS like you two - FlyGirl and Miss B. But I do not blame the position you take, given your nature as a women.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this doesn't seem like what you have been saying before.

 

[MistressB]

Miss B,

You should know I do respect your level of intelligence and restraint because you have yet retorted to shaming language - even though I can be a bit of a brute when debating. And for that you have my respect. I was only testing your level of comprehension and mental control.

Thank you. I enjoy debating in an intelligent way, and don't consider it part of the fun to stoop to a level of personal insults - call me an old fashioned lady if you will :lol: (and I have no doubt that you will...!)

 

[7Seven]

Flygirl and Miss B,

I am not talking about male superiority or female inferiority. To assert such a thing is absurd and foolish. What I am saying is - females lack the NECESSARY INTELLIGENCE to be independent - meaning: the intelligence of relative importance.

But you are right on one account - BM on average have lower IQ's then WM. I am not disputing that FACT. How can I - when ALL scientific evidence will say so? But that is only on AVERAGE. The average IQ is one standard above deviation - which I believe is 85-100, someone please correct if I am wrong.

It's not on average, especially if you counting all white men and Asian men versus all black men.

You should also know, higher levels of intelligence is an social construct, it is difficult to argue that cultural, environmental, gender, socio-economic, or educational discrepancies will not affect your level of intelligence. Which will explain why BM and women will have lower IQ levels then WM and Asians.

I somewhat agree with this part, since those things will have an impact on it.

It is also absurd to think BM and women do not have above average IQ or into the genius levels of comprehension.

This is why I somewhat disagree. To believe this is to insinuate that blacks and Hispanics need a more 'special' education than whites and Asians, especially if blacks and Hispanics are discriminated against in the American school system, by being placed in classes with the more remedial teachers.

Men and women of first class education such as Miss B and Myself is where you the separation. For every women with an IQ of 126 there will be 2 men. For every women with and IQ of 155, there will be 5 men. For every female with an IQ of 165, there will be 10 men. Again, this not to say females are inferior to men. It is just the FACTS. Any women of high intelligence will pursue Independence as a man would - aggressively, cutting off emotions and attachments, and the like. I sustain, this is not attractive to men, it will never be seen as feminine in the eyes of men. The idea of femininity to men is different then that of the women's and always will be. To aggressively peruse independence will land you single at the age of 40+ - that is another FACT society has a hard time swallowing. You can not separate the two - being loving, nurturing, and supportive because achieving Independence constitutes you shutting off those emotions. Another FACT!

So, with this conclusion of female independence, would you say that women are naturally dependent?

As Miss B mentioned there are different 'types' of intelligence. Linguistic intelligence ("word smart"), Logical-mathematical intelligence ("number/reasoning smart"), Spatial intelligence ("picture smart"), Bodily-Kinesthetic intelligence ("body smart"), Musical intelligence ("music smart"), Interpersonal intelligence ("people smart"), Intrapersonal intelligence ("self smart"), Naturalist intelligence ("nature smart"). But the constituent of these 'types' derives out general intelligence, which men, will edge out women as the level of education rises. It should never be mistaken as to be superior because there areas of these 'types' where women edge out men and always will. Multi -tasking and the sheer resilience to endore pain and suffering is almost unmeasurable in a female and men will never come close. But as I stated, we should NEVER confuse the nature of men and women; because it is as nature intends it and always will.

But, given that there still is a substantial debate about the nature of intelligence, and no one theory is accepted by all, there is still room for improvement on any given theory. This is why I believe to understand General Intelligence is inconceivable by Humans. There are too many people who believe there can be NO ABSOLUTE TRUTHS like you two - FlyGirl and Miss B. But I do not blame the position you take, given your nature as a women.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this doesn't seem like what you have been saying before.

IQ discrepancies amongst men is a total social-economic construct. Asian, Asian Indian, White, Black - Black Africans, etc, etc. It would be absurd to think Black men with first class education would have an IQ below 126. Just like it would absurd to think white men from trailer trash would have an IQ above 85. But, even within these 'brackets' BM will be 1-5 points lower. Again, it is also absurd to think BM do not have IQ's of 155 and upward. The probability may be lower given the social construct but it exists none the less. So on 'average' you would see BM with lower IQ's - simply because the majority of Blacks, especially out of Africa do not have access to first class education throughout their livelihood. But WW do and still, even then, their IQ's would be lower given that Black male has the same amount of education as she. Again, Science will back this up and this all derives out of high probabilities within the greatest common denominator.

If you want to say men are superior to women simply because we have greater general intelligence - then by all means, go ahead. But that is not what I have been talking about at all. To achieve 'Independence' absolutely for a women - means: cutting off her very biological senses, the senses she excels in moreso then men. What man is going to find that attractive? THIS is the question she needs to ask herself, and if she pursue this "independence" how much would it change her SOUL in the eyes of men. She will either succumb to her senses, become an lipstick lesbian, or live forever in disdain - just because she can not control men. Just look at where it is getting BW. But BW only succumb to WM or she becomes an lipstick lesbian. For that every man she will come in contact with, she will see as weak because she has know one she can esteem above herself.

 

[SardonicGenie]

I never said once that we are superior to women, nor did I imply it. Being more dynamic on average doesn't mean we are superior...

and, I pretty much agree with everything else you just said. You hit it on the nail that time. Being educated isn't the same a s being smart, but with the average black man, people assume so. If that's true, then why do so many highly educated white kids commit such stupid crimes as toilet papering a house, defecating in urinals, using drugs (crystal meth, marijuana, PCP, cocaine) vandalism, car theft, rape/murder and computer hacking?

Also, others may not have noticed this yet, but in your original post written in here, there were comments about men too, as well as women, and you, yourself, made comments about men and their ways towards women, and no on else noticed that either, so I don't think you are a sexist. A drama queen, maybe, :lol: but not a sexist.