A black family or an Interracial family?

[xoxo]

Statistics I've looked at say 30% not 66% and the % averages at only like 1-2% compared to among AA's being 15%-20% on average with many more than that and like what 80% that do have white ancestry. (maybe more I'm trying to remember without looking back at the numbers) I said 100yrs or so. It looks like it will eventually happen that's all I'm saying and I wonder what impact that will play. You can get 4-5 generations in 100 yrs. The rate of white children being born in the US on a decline. White children are not the majority. It can happen. There is people out here right now that have a biracial black/white parent and a white parent with white phenotype. Say the mix with white and produce another child with a white phenotype and then that child reproduces with another white person who has admixture just as they do. Bam there is a chance they can produce a child whom we wouldn't classify as a white phenotype today. The more biracial people mixing with white people the chances of this occurring is going up. Shoot there is already white people today that even though their white and have white parents have you looking at them thinking they got something else in them. As it becomes more common there will be bigger differences than just features that make you look even harder.

Look to Hispanic countries and you will see this already occurs. Two very light parents that would be classified as white in their country sometimes have children alot darker.

What I meant was white people are 65%-70% or so percent of the population and among that percentage 2/3 have trace amounts of SSA (around 1-2%). Which is nothing and you are right it's 1/3 not to 2. There aren't enough Black folks in this country to get a white population that looks likes "Puertorican Whites", especially in a 100 years, especially given the admixture in AA, many of whom would not be counted as Black in Hispanic countries. You would need to include Hispanic whites in your analysis, who have a higher rate of admixture.

But this a racialist argument, and you are constantly making the assertion that there is "definable race". White people that have something else in them? Give me a break, as if there is such a thing a racial purity, going back all so called Whites have non European ancestors. The recombination of genes throughout generations has just produced a distinct phenotype, the other new world models are not applicable to the U.S given Whites outnumber Africans and Natives by a large number and if mixed at an equal rate, you would see Argentina not Brazil.

I'm concerned with race as a social construct in the U.S and I see there being a permanent Black underclass, no matter what they look like. God forbid we see the White privilege of the Hispanic/Latin American world take shape here. The more whites have been aware of their African ancestry, the more disdain they have shown towards Blacks.

 

[LA]

What I meant was white people are 65%-70% or so percent of the population and among that percentage 2/3 have trace amounts of SSA (around 1-2%). Which is nothing and you are right it's 1/3 not to 2. There aren't enough Black folks in this country to get a white population that looks likes "Puertorican Whites", especially in a 100 years, especially given the admixture in AA, many of whom would not be counted as Black in Hispanic countries. You would need to include Hispanic whites in your analysis, who have a higher rate of admixture.

But this a racialist argument, and you are constantly making the assertion that there is "definable race". White people that have something else in them? Give me a break, as if there is such a thing a racial purity, going back all so called Whites have non European ancestors. The recombination of genes throughout generations has just produced a distinct phenotype, the other new world models are not applicable to the U.S given Whites outnumber Africans and Natives by a large number and if mixed at an equal rate, you would see Argentina not Brazil.

I'm concerned with race as a social construct in the U.S and I see there being a permanent Black underclass, no matter what they look like. God forbid we see the White privilege of the Hispanic/Latin American world take shape here. The more whites have been aware of their African ancestry, the more disdain they have shown towards Blacks.

*BOOM!*

 

[flaminghetero]

WOW I'm not surprised.

There is one lady on this site that wont mind her black son marrying a biracial daughter if the mother is black but doesn't want him marrying a white woman's biracial child.

That's some wacky anti-BM bullshit..

We have a mofo on this forum...Blackmasterjay...that claims BW/WM make more intelligent offspring that BM/WW...and this fool claims to be a BM.

 

[flaminghetero]

It's beyond hypocrisy.

Black women in their intimate relationships with White men have understood the social power of having white/light children, particularly girls which can be with, or kept by White men as mistresses. Black men, not being of white male status, must go with Black women. The more twisted Black women believe these men should go with the darkest Black women.

This comes from the New Orleans/Creole/Quadroon ball type mentality. The Anne Rice book Feast of Saints has a similar dynamic with a creole family, but many Black women outside of creole culture seemingly had this mentality. The fact that it is evident today is highly disturbing.

Yes, many Black women would have conferred mixed status upon that family, simply because a White man is the head. This is just another example of the power dynamic issues that exist with relation to Black men in American society. A white man with his power can confer a higher status upon a Black woman by making a family, while a Black man is detrimental to a white woman in a family unit; and here come the hypocrisy, Black women knowing this will insist the Black man is the one trying to move up in status.

Damn good post right there.

 

[flaminghetero]

Yeah I actually read an article today about employers not hiring people with criminal records whether its a misdemeanor or a felony. So a large population of people(mostly African Americans) have another obstacle to economic balance. It really does feel like a conspiracy to keep us down. So now if you convicted for shop lifting at 19 you can't find work at 35? Such bullshit.

They won't hire Blacks with a criminal record but they hire illegals with fake SS#s

 

[The Dark King]

They won't hire Blacks with a criminal record but they hire illegals with fake SS#s

Idon't count them since they don't have to be paid minimum wage or health insurance and it's not just black people it's anyone who puts that they've been convicted of a crime but it does affect bm most of all.

 

[Tamstrong]

Whether it's because the BM was married to a WW or because they were looked at as a black family doesn't matter, because race was obviously the motivating factor in the cross burning incident. There's no point in trying to specualte on which racist notion was behind it.

I wouldn't label my family anything but family. It's not like I'd introduce someone to my husband (if I had one) or child as, 'my black husband or my biracial child' any more than I'd introduce my mother as 'my white mom'.

 

[xoxo]

WOW I'm not surprised.

There is one lady on this site that wont mind her black son marrying a biracial daughter if the mother is black but doesn't want him marrying a white woman's biracial child.

One thing I forgot in my analysis is that Black women in slavery conferred racial status upon their offspring. Her kids were slaves, a female child could carry a White mans seed, while a male child could only mate with Black women. Hopefully this dynamic is still not in peoples mind. (ie slave mentality)

Regina, I have said you are a racialist, this is not an insult. ( many racialist are racist/eugenicist however). I'm not one of these people who doesn't believe in so called racial difference, it's just that biodiversity is so great, that racial classification is untenable. None of these racial classifications are transhistorical, either in name, genotype or phenotype. Which is why unending preservation of a particular phenotype or culture is nonsensical, whether it's oceanic aborigines (who have what is thought of as a distinctive phenotype) or pygmies around the world, none of these people/cultures are guaranteed existence. Whether is through intersexual selection or a cataclysmic event, human beings will adapt, look differently and change culturally.

 

[Mighty Quinn]

You read Our Kind of People. Really interesting book on colorism amongst dark skin and light skin blacks in "blue" blood society
What's funny to me is after 16 years of dating ww exclusively for the most part I don't even notice the different tones amongst black people. It has no meaning to me unless certain throw out dark skin jokes.

The same author wrote "The Senator and the Socialite", which has to be the most comprehensive book on Blanche Kelso Bruce and his wife Josephine. I first came across her in a book called "Aristocrats of Color: The Black Elite, 1880-1920". Damn was she fine. It's strange though, because even though she was practically white, she was still considered black.

 

[xoxo]

The same author wrote "The Senator and the Socialite", which has to be the most comprehensive book on Blanche Kelso Bruce and his wife Josephine.

How was it? I'm not too hot on Graham's other books.

 

[Mighty Quinn]

How was it? I'm not too hot on Graham's other books.

I liked it, but it's a bit of a doorstopper.

 

[TERRASTAR18]

why are we getting into the same stereotypes as they are?

"why is that" is always the first step to ignorance. i say change direction....

 

[JJ4WP]

Interracial Family

So it's already posted about the the mixed race family black man, white woman, and their teenage daughter having a cross burned in their yard. So some of the media said it was a black family totally leaving out the fact this was a family were a black man is married to a white woman. While others news reports have them actually saying the reason this happened to them was b/c they are an IR family.

Ok so on another site I'm arguing with these women (mostly black women) about this issue. They are saying the consider them a black family. WTF and are denying the fact that white supremacist and even reguar racist folk hate bm with ww more so than they hate black people in general. They are denying the fact that this couple was target specifically b/c this black man has a white wife and claim they were simply targeted b/c the husband is a black man and it would of happend even if the wife was black. Now I know that black families have crosses burned on their front lawn but come on. Who in here thinks that the real reason this happend is not the fact this black man had a white wife? Do you consider interracial families a black family or do you consider them an interracial family?

What really ticks me off is the same women will be quick to say the don't want their black sons marrying white women b/c they believe in black families. Then they will use this excuse that white men don't like seeing bm with ww so they feel their sons safety is estate for one reason they don't want their black sons messing with white women. WTF. But now suddenly it's still a black family even with a white wife and now the ww isn't a cause for this racist act this family had to endure. Wow so what do u all think?

BM,WW & Mixed child = Interracial family

 

[goodlove]

So it's already posted about the the mixed race family black man, white woman, and their teenage daughter having a cross burned in their yard. So some of the media said it was a black family totally leaving out the fact this was a family were a black man is married to a white woman. While others news reports have them actually saying the reason this happened to them was b/c they are an IR family.

Ok so on another site I'm arguing with these women (mostly black women) about this issue. They are saying the consider them a black family. WTF and are denying the fact that white supremacist and even reguar racist folk hate bm with ww more so than they hate black people in general. They are denying the fact that this couple was target specifically b/c this black man has a white wife and claim they were simply targeted b/c the husband is a black man and it would of happend even if the wife was black. Now I know that black families have crosses burned on their front lawn but come on. Who in here thinks that the real reason this happend is not the fact this black man had a white wife? Do you consider interracial families a black family or do you consider them an interracial family?

What really ticks me off is the same women will be quick to say the don't want their black sons marrying white women b/c they believe in black families. Then they will use this excuse that white men don't like seeing bm with ww so they feel their sons safety is estate for one reason they don't want their black sons messing with white women. WTF. But now suddenly it's still a black family even with a white wife and now the ww isn't a cause for this racist act this family had to endure. Wow so what do u all think?

It's eerie how accurate she is when it comes to spotting bullshit.

I actually know a BW that tells her biracial daughter to marry WM....and tells her biracial son to marry BW.

:smt023:smt023:

You dropped some ill knowledge right there bro. Love it, hypocrisy at its finest.

The old, worn out black man is trying to move up in status by marrying a trophy white woman. I love how you broke it down for its inherit stupidity when examined in detail. The rambling idiots have usually crossed the Rubicon and so don't even realize the foolhardiness of such statements.

Reps for your post.

hell, they tried to kill tiger when he called himself "whatever" so he wouldnt count off his mom. they said he is black fuck his korean mom and he wouldnt bend..I dont blame him.

remember BM are on the bottom of the totem pole and it has been for the last 40 years. anything happen bad in america it is the bm fault. that is why the rise in mental cases among BM. That is why WW and BM can relate so well.
Dont forget the one drop rule. as bill stated something like "the one drop rule dont make sense. If 15 white people were haviong a party and a black guy show up it becomes a black party and now they have to change the music style."

 

[OpenHeart]

So it's already posted about the the mixed race family black man, white woman, and their teenage daughter having a cross burned in their yard. So some of the media said it was a black family totally leaving out the fact this was a family were a black man is married to a white woman. While others news reports have them actually saying the reason this happened to them was b/c they are an IR family.

Ok so on another site I'm arguing with these women (mostly black women) about this issue. They are saying the consider them a black family. WTF and are denying the fact that white supremacist and even reguar racist folk hate bm with ww more so than they hate black people in general. They are denying the fact that this couple was target specifically b/c this black man has a white wife and claim they were simply targeted b/c the husband is a black man and it would of happend even if the wife was black. Now I know that black families have crosses burned on their front lawn but come on. Who in here thinks that the real reason this happend is not the fact this black man had a white wife? Do you consider interracial families a black family or do you consider them an interracial family?

What really ticks me off is the same women will be quick to say the don't want their black sons marrying white women b/c they believe in black families. Then they will use this excuse that white men don't like seeing bm with ww so they feel their sons safety is estate for one reason they don't want their black sons messing with white women. WTF. But now suddenly it's still a black family even with a white wife and now the ww isn't a cause for this racist act this family had to endure. Wow so what do u all think?

Some blacks consider biracial children to be black…the “new” black. Thirty years from now this will be the case most definitely as both black women and men continue to accelerate in marrying and dating outside of their race. Even some whites consider biracial people to be black…note President Obama who is biracial…not black. Even some biracial people go for black. People like Halle Berry consider themselves black. Charles Barkley refers to his 2 children as black…not biracial. I think the reason why most of those black women consider this to be a black family is because the makeup of it is mostly black in their mind. Is it right? No, but welcome to America. It is what it is. Sad that we have to deal with color politics, but that’s life.

Don't let it tick you off. Things have labels...just put your own name on your own label and go with what's in "your" jar. Don't let others label you...Tiger Woods doesn't.

 

[OpenHeart]

Statistics I've looked at say 30% not 66% and the % averages at only like 1-2% compared to among AA's being 15%-20% on average with many more than that and like what 80% that do have white ancestry. (maybe more I'm trying to remember without looking back at the numbers) I said 100yrs or so. It looks like it will eventually happen that's all I'm saying and I wonder what impact that will play. You can get 4-5 generations in 100 yrs. The rate of white children being born in the US on a decline. White children are not the majority. It can happen. There is people out here right now that have a biracial black/white parent and a white parent with white phenotype. Say the mix with white and produce another child with a white phenotype and then that child reproduces with another white person who has admixture just as they do. Bam there is a chance they can produce a child whom we wouldn't classify as a white phenotype today. The more biracial people mixing with white people the chances of this occurring is going up. Shoot there is already white people today that even though their white and have white parents have you looking at them thinking they got something else in them. As it becomes more common there will be bigger differences than just features that make you look even harder.

Look to Hispanic countries and you will see this already occurs. Two very light parents that would be classified as white in their country sometimes have children alot darker.

Well, do you not think that this is a good thing? I mean you sound like you are worried somewhat about this. I believe that this is a good thing. I will tell you why in two words...global warming. Melanin in a white person's skin would be a godsend. No one is better suited for literally saving the white race from total obliteration as the black man and black woman. Mixing with them will give our race a much better chance of longevity on earth...feel me?.

 

[goodlove]

Well, do you not think that this is a good thing? I mean you sound like you are worried somewhat about this. I believe that this is a good thing. I will tell you why in two words...global warming. Melanin in a white person's skin would be a godsend. No one is better suited for literally saving the white race from total obliteration as the black man and black woman. Mixing with them will give our race a much better chance of longevity on earth...feel me?.

im not sure i understand

 

[xoxo]

I believe that this is a good thing. I will tell you why in two words...global warming. Melanin in a white person's skin would be a godsend. No one is better suited for literally saving the white race from total obliteration as the black man and black woman. Mixing with them will give our race a much better chance of longevity on earth...feel me?.

 

[xoxo]

Mixing with them will give our race a much better chance of longevity on earth...feel me?.

 

[z]

Well, do you not think that this is a good thing? I mean you sound like you are worried somewhat about this. I believe that this is a good thing. I will tell you why in two words...global warming. Melanin in a white person's skin would be a godsend. No one is better suited for literally saving the white race from total obliteration as the black man and black woman. Mixing with them will give our race a much better chance of longevity on earth...feel me?.

what?