Am I overreacting (bi-racial couple issue)

Ra said:
Good Luck with that. Too many people love being anti-intellectual & contrarian aka "free-thinkers" for that to happen. For every gain in knowledge we make as a species there are allows pockets of individuals who want to drag everyone back to the stone age.
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The Dark King said:
So true. Free thinkers are usually idiots in every sense of the word.
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That's the unfortunate part of their blithe ignorance.
 
Ra said:
Good Luck with that. Too many people love being anti-intellectual & contrarian aka "free-thinkers" for that to happen. For every gain in knowledge we make as a species there are allows pockets of individuals who want to drag everyone back to the stone age.
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Sad, but true.
 
ColiBreh1 said:
I always looked at that Starbucks controversy as an issue with the manager at that individual Starbucks to begin with, NOT Starbucks corporate. Not to mention if those brothas had just bought something, it would've never escalated.

So yes, I do think the dude is overreacting & I wouldn't have a problem with my girl going to Starbucks.
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exactly that.
 
darkcurry said:
Calling the cops on somebody just because they didn't order anything fits overreacting in every way and I would never give racism an excuse if something positive comes from it and racial sensitivity training is a good thing. Because unfortunately most people that do racist things are operating with blithe ignorance in mind. A lot of people needs an education on race and racism. That is one way that we can defeat racism is with knowledge.
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It's an overreaction if he didn't first ask them to leave if they aren't gonna buy. If they refused to leave, then calling the cops is within bounds. But, yeah, the manager probably over-reacted, but still the guys should be smart enough to know that it isn't a bus stop or a homeless shelter.

If they slip and fall in there, they could sue. The establishment takes those risks (and hires people to clean the nasty toilet) because they want to make profit.

Those dudes should have consideration of that, rather than be arrogant. And the manager should probably have approached it with "people skills" rather than call in the guns so quickly.

I've heard that (in response to this incident) starbucks now lets people use the toilet without needing to make a purchase. I hope it helps their bottom line, but I feel bad for the people who have to clean those toilets. :oops::(:eek:
 
medullaslashin said:
It's an overreaction if he didn't first ask them to leave if they aren't gonna buy. If they refused to leave, then calling the cops is within bounds. But, yeah, the manager probably over-reacted, but still the guys should be smart enough to know that it isn't a bus stop or a homeless shelter.

If they slip and fall in there, they could sue. The establishment takes those risks (and hires people to clean the nasty toilet) because they want to make profit.

Those dudes should have consideration of that, rather than be arrogant. And the manager should probably have approached it with "people skills" rather than call in the guns so quickly.

I've heard that (in response to this incident) starbucks now lets people use the toilet without needing to make a purchase. I hope it helps their bottom line, but I feel bad for the people who have to clean those toilets. :oops::(:eek:
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They said they were waiting for someone. They weren't just being assholes who refused to leave and why should they have to when other people admitted they were doing the same thing
 
The Dark King said:
They said they were waiting for someone. They weren't just being assholes who refused to leave and why should they have to when other people admitted they were doing the same thing
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Oh, okay -- didn't know all that. I don't follow these stories all that closely.

They still should've bought something though -- that's courtesy. And the mgr certainly shouldn't have singled them out if he's not enforcing the rules for everyone, because that's racism... Like I said, there's probably fault to go around in that incident.

Still, if they were my sons, I would want them to know that starbucks doesn't run waiting rooms. If you want the convenience of a good place to wait for someone, buy a cup of coffee. Not because you're black, but because that's the way the world works.
 
medullaslashin said:
Oh, okay -- didn't know all that. I don't follow these stories all that closely.

They still should've bought something though -- that's courtesy. And the mgr certainly shouldn't have singled them out if he's not enforcing the rules for everyone, because that's racism... Like I said, there's probably fault to go around in that incident.

Still, if they were my sons, I would want them to know that starbucks doesn't run waiting rooms. If you want the convenience of a good place to wait for someone, buy a cup of coffee. Not because you're black, but because that's the way the world works.
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But obviously its not how the world works if its only required of black people
 
medullaslashin said:
Of course it's how the world works. You can't just walk into any shop and sit without buying. Everyone in their right mind knows that.

The selective application of the rule is a separate issue.
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but that ain't their policy people go in there and just use wifi all the time
 
The Dark King said:
but that ain't their policy people go in there and just use wifi all the time
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So you're saying that people go in there and simply sit without buying, all the time? Well I don't know starbucks, so I can't comment on that.

I've been to coffee shops though. They want you to buy coffee, etc., not just go in and sit. It pays for the wifi.

Those black dudes should've had consideration for that.
 
medullaslashin said:
So you're saying that people go in there and simply sit without buying, all the time? Well I don't know starbucks, so I can't comment on that.

I've been to coffee shops though. They want you to buy coffee, etc., not just go in and sit. It pays for the wifi.

Those black dudes should've had consideration for that.
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If you don't go to Starbucks how do you know what they should do?
 
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