Anyone read about this? I've been losing so much sleep over it.

[The Dark King]

I looked for the 2 authors being interviewed but for the life of me it's not coming up in C2C/AM's search...

Anyway not to keep you even more awake, but this part of the article...




...reminded me of this v v that I read in the press recently...

3D printed guns

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/133514-the-worlds-first-3d-printed-gun

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013...-how-to-handle-3d-printed-guns/#ixzz2LfUciWaX
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*(which also proves, where there's a will there's a way #aroundgunlaws)

This actually makes me feel good since the average consumer would need less to survivr with one of those. Especially if you can your ow weapons to defend yourself.

 

[The Dark King]

:smt023 Bingo! I just had this conversation with someone today...there's only so much you can automate in healthcare.

Lol you think so. If they can automate surgery they can automate EVERYTHING. Itt might noght not happen in 10 years but in 15 or 20 please believe its possible. At this point all we can do is prepare and brace ourselves for the impending doom. Im even looking into farming of some sort.

 

[The Dark King]

Check out the book "The End of Work" by Jeremy Rifkin. Read the review on Amazon. He predicted these kind of technological changes way back in the 1980's when his book came out. He particularly emphasized in this book how technological change affected blacks. It created a scare even back then when we were suppose to have been in the best of times. He predicted that the microcomputer which was just beginning to gain speed in our economy was going to be the center of the great changes to come.
We have not seen nothing yet. Drones, robots, brilliant machines, etc....

Interesting. Wish they emphasized this instead of following bs dreams growing up

 

[goodlove]

Interesting. Wish they emphasized this instead of following bs dreams growing up

Lol you think so. If they can automate surgery they can automate EVERYTHING. Itt might noght not happen in 10 years but in 15 or 20 please believe its possible. At this point all we can do is prepare and brace ourselves for the impending doom. Im even looking into farming of some sort.

yeah, instead of telling black kids you can be an athlete or a rap star maybe that will be a start. thyen stop financing football will be even better. next go year round school and stop laying off teachers.

need to end the culture of ignorance

 

[Blacktiger2005]

Interesting. Wish they emphasized this instead of following bs dreams growing up

The bs dreams that were growing up in the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency (DARPA) is now transforming the world. Remenber in the early 1980's the talk from them on 1. autonomous vehicles (driverless vehicles) 2. pilots associate (smart software flying aircraft) 3. battle management (ultra smart computers that would fight a nuclear and conventional war). Military research is what driving these changes.

 

[The Dark King]

The bs dreams that were growing up in the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency (DARPA) is now transforming the world. Remenber in the early 1980's the talk from them on 1. autonomous vehicles (driverless vehicles) 2. pilots associate (smart software flying aircraft) 3. battle management (ultra smart computers that would fight a nuclear and conventional war). Military research is what driving these changes.

Yeah just watched a documentary about that today. Theyve spent billions on it so far. The price tag will hit 160 billion by 2030. The world is fastly changing and there is very little we can do. I do see either new religions or old ones taking root once this happens.

 

[goodlove]

The bs dreams that were growing up in the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency (DARPA) is now transforming the world. Remenber in the early 1980's the talk from them on 1. autonomous vehicles (driverless vehicles) 2. pilots associate (smart software flying aircraft) 3. battle management (ultra smart computers that would fight a nuclear and conventional war). Military research is what driving these changes.

if you are not part of stems and finance and the healthcare fields you are fucked.look at the BLS.org

the education system is foul also when it comes to the poor

 

[Blacktiger2005]

Yeah just watched a documentary about that today. Theyve spent billions on it so far. The price tag will hit 160 billion by 2030. The world is fastly changing and there is very little we can do. I do see either new religions or old ones taking root once this happens.

What is needed are new ways of re-inventing ourselves as human beings mentally, physically and spiritually to be ready for the new changes that are coming. True, new religions or old ancient wisdoms will make a return to give people spiritual strength to meet the demands of a changing world that will be needed.

 

[medullaslashin]

1. The 3D printer

Imagine a giant printer that can create a 2,500 square foot house in 24 hours, fixtures and fittings included. In case you haven’t heard, 3D printers already exist and can create a variety of objects. According to this ‘Economist’ article:

‘These include medical implants, jewelry, football boots designed for individual feet, lampshades, racing-car parts, solid-state batteries and customized mobile phones. Some are even making mechanical devices. At the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), Peter Schmitt, a PhD student, has been printing something that resembles the workings of a grandfather clock.’ (Feb 2011)

American workers in particular are going to suffer from the combined effects of technological revolution like this and globalism because we're so used to living high on the hog. unless of course we come up with economic policies that take into account the new realities...

eh, what the hell, maybe we'll just have a third world war to sort things out. :smt023

 

[Bliss]

You listen to coast to coast. Dang me too

:smt023

 

[blackbull1970]

Did you actually read the article. NO JOB IS SAFE. Automation is going to replace EVERYTHING.

Lets say Automation does replace all jobs.

Then who is going to buy all that crap since they ain't got a job and all public assitance has been eliminated.

It's like having all the money in the world, it's worthless.

 

[The Dark King]

Lets say Automation does replace all jobs.

Then who is going to buy all that crap since they ain't got a job and all public assitance has been eliminated.

It's like having all the money in the world, it's worthless.

that was initial thought too until I saw the bigger picture. It's all about the transfer of wealth. In this capitalistic system the owners have the capital aka the wealth the wage workers were able to trade their labor for some of that wealth. When labor is no longer needed to invest and grow wealth then that means wage workers will no longer be needed. The government will only exist to serve the very few wealthy as they enjoy the fruits of their capital provided by robot workers. Wage worker's labor will be considered useless since they/we can not keep up with robots and software and won't be able to afford the technological advances that will be needed to keep up. Things like human intelligence and hard work will become meaningless to those who the means of production since computers and robots can handle all their needs. After that point they will look for excuses to exterminate the remaining wage workers who haven't starved to death since they are consuming valuable resources that they want for themselves and won't see any reason to share with those who only consume and don't contribute. The vast majority will be far too preoccupied to see it coming. I admit this is a very pessimistic point of view but it seems to fall in line with the sociopathic nature of capitalism as it stands today. The wealthy (not every single one but enough to make things the way they are) believe they have the right to do whatever they want because they own stuff. The last presidential race brought that out in the open in spades. Many think those who aren't rich or can't find a way to be rich just want to mooch of the system, they don't see their good fortune as a result of hard work AND luck they see it as deterministic and believe those who don't share in the good fortune don't deserve it. I want to make it clear i don't think every wealth person is evil far from it in fact. I just think there are enough of them that are apathetic and wrapped up in their own indulgances that if shit got really bad for the ever increasing poor it would just be like a show on tv they can ignore.

 

[Beasty]

that was initial thought too until I saw the bigger picture. It's all about the transfer of wealth. In this capitalistic system the owners have the capital aka the wealth the wage workers were able to trade their labor for some of that wealth. When labor is no longer needed to invest and grow wealth then that means wage workers will no longer be needed. The government will only exist to serve the very few wealthy as they enjoy the fruits of their capital provided by robot workers. Wage worker's labor will be considered useless since they/we can not keep up with robots and software and won't be able to afford the technological advances that will be needed to keep up. Things like human intelligence and hard work will become meaningless to those who the means of production since computers and robots can handle all their needs[/B]. After that point they will look for excuses to exterminate the remaining wage workers who haven't starved to death since they are consuming valuable resources that they want for themselves and won't see any reason to share with those who only consume and don't contribute. The vast majority will be far too preoccupied to see it coming. I admit this is a very pessimistic point of view but it seems to fall in line with the sociopathic nature of capitalism as it stands today. The wealthy (not every single one but enough to make things the way they are) believe they have the right to do whatever they want because they own stuff. The last presidential race brought that out in the open in spades. Many think those who aren't rich or can't find a way to be rich just want to mooch of the system, they don't see their good fortune as a result of hard work AND luck they see it as deterministic and believe those who don't share in the good fortune don't deserve it. I want to make it clear i don't think every wealth person is evil far from it in fact. I just think there are enough of them that are apathetic and wrapped up in their own indulgances that if shit got really bad for the ever increasing poor it would just be like a show on tv they can ignore.

Electronics are not going to replace human intelligence. Todays technology is very impressive, but you are giving it too much credit here. Be concerned and not worried. Computers are extentions of the mind like the wrench is an extention of the hand. One is a more impressive tool, but make no mistake, both are tools indeed.

 

[The Dark King]

Electronics are not going to replace human intelligence. Todays technology is very impressive, but you are giving it too much credit here. Be concerned and not worried. Computers are extentions of the mind like the wrench is an extention of the hand. One is a more impressive tool, but make no mistake, both are tools indeed.

A wrench can not repair itself and a wrench can not think. Computers and robots will have this capability in the near future. Im not daying next week or even in five years but in fiteen or twenty bet your ass my friend they will. And of course people will always need people and want to enjoy other people but which people? Its no different than how we in the rich western countries livn our lives obsessed with material goods whil people in the third world starve and suffer. I hope Im wrong but it makes sense.

 

[Beasty]

A wrench can not repair itself and a wrench can not think. Computers and robots will have this capability in the near future. Im not daying next week or even in five years but in fiteen or twenty bet your ass my friend they will. And of course people will always need people and want to enjoy other people but which people? Its no different than how we in the rich western countries livn our lives obsessed with material goods whil people in the third world starve and suffer. I hope Im wrong but it makes sense.

how much do you know about electronics? do you have the skill set and knowledge to troubleshoot and repair electronics, such as the reading of schematics? I can tell you why more and more thinkers will be needed as the complexity of electronics increases, I just dont want to include any redundance in my explanation.

 

[The Dark King]

how much do you know about electronics? do you have the skill set and knowledge to troubleshoot and repair electronics, such as the reading of schematics? I can tell you why more and more thinkers will be needed as the complexity of electronics increases, I just dont want to include any redundance in my explanation.

Not that much but like I said it won't overnight or even with in five years but in fifteen to twenty absolutely. Robots are replacing redundant jobs like cashiers in supermarkets and people on assembly lines like the one million jobs being replaced by robots at Foxconn. We might see a new market come along that is too complicated for machines but as it stands right now it seems like things are headed towards a world where people have less to offer especially those who can't afford to go to college. I actually think traditional education is about to take a much deserved dive as things progress but that's another conversation.

 

[Bliss]

Rod Serling was a visionary....

1964....The Twilight Zone episode....

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[Bliss]

There was another episode that was based in a totalitarian society where if you were not deemed necessary for society you were killed. The one guy that did all the condemning was letting a librarian know Jes is no longer needed in society. By the end of the episode the guy doing the judging was no longer needed either......he came to his senses then lol

Ha ha, have it saved in my T.Z favorites. Fantastic episode!...

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[Bliss]

Yep I have every episode in a file on my cloud storage and I have it on my comp. I love the black and white ones the color ones just didn't do it for me. My favorite was the one with a young I think Dustin Hoffman where he started as a rebel doing speeches on the corner and people ridiculed him and didn't listen but then he got the spirit of Hitler and started getting all kinds of people listening to him. He ended up being assassinated and the spirit left him and it was a shadow form on the wall and you can tell it was Hitler basically they were saying wherecer there is hate and oppression the spirit is there. Hitler was purely symbolic but it drove the point home. Plus there was a black guy in the crowd of people attending first LST time I had seen a black person in t.z.

Lol

I'm with you on the B&W ones. Much more meaningful...very emotional character acting. But I'm a fan of old B&W movies in general (TCM/Turner Classic Movie channel addict here), so I'm biased.

I haven't seen that one with Dustin. Fascinating glimpse into human nature.

Since you have a lot of them, maybe you can help me out here...
I have been looking for the longest for the one where (trying to remember right here) I think either the husband borrows from a neighbor?/or creates a robot that helps his wife and kids out while the husband goes to work. Eventually as time goes on, the robot replaces him completely and the final scene is he comes home and the robot is sitting at the head of the table in his seat...does this one stand out in your memory...I can't recall the title which is why I can't find the episode in their listings.

Anyway, it impacted me...how the husband/father was replaced. Great episode.

 

[The Dark King]

Ha ha, have it saved in my T.Z favorites. Fantastic episode!...

[HDYT]FBB2Xs0Hko8[/HDYT]

My God that was great thanks for sharing. If only to live in a world where people heeded and took note. Unfortunately it looks like history will repeat itself again