BM Incarceration

[The Dark King]

It would be chaotic. You' d have people taking steriods and ruinning their bodies just to look one way or taking some of these hard drugs that ruin their organs. Eventually, they would want to be fixed which would end up costing too much in a universal health care system.

Like the man said people would take them anyway. Peopl who aren't taking them aren't afraid of the law as much as they're afraid to what it'll do to them.

 

[archangel]

Like the man said people would take them anyway. Peopl who aren't taking them aren't afraid of the law as much as they're afraid to what it'll do to them.

The point is to reduce it and not stop all of it. People are going to kill people any way. it doesn't mean we should make that legal too.

 

[flaminghetero]

It would be chaotic. You' d have people taking steriods and ruinning their bodies just to look one way or taking some of these hard drugs that ruin their organs. Eventually, they would want to be fixed which would end up costing too much in a universal health care system.

LOL

You're not even thinking.

The cost of incarceration...loss of income...family destruction...ect ect involved with locking people up for drugs FAR outweigh the healthcare costs.

 

[archangel]

LOL

You're not even thinking.

The cost of incarceration...loss of income...family destruction...ect ect involved with locking people up for drugs FAR outweigh the healthcare costs.

You are weighing all of that against death and rehabilitation. Death also includes loss of income, family destruction and the health care costs. This far outweighs what you just said. If the person does not die, then we have an even larger cost of rehabilitation that would have be lowered if there was law to reduce temptation. Again, you are not looking at what can be but what is now. You don't want to admit how dangerous making all drugs not some but all legal. The consequences far outweigh the consequences we have now. That is why this path was taken to eliminate the truly dangerous drugs.

 

[flaminghetero]

You are weighing all of that against death. Death also includes loss of income, family destruction and the health care costs. This far outweighes what you just said. Again, you are not looking at what can be but what is now. You don't want to admit how dangerous making all drugs not some but all legal. The consquences far outweigh the consquences we have now. That is why this path was taken to elimanite the truly dangerous drugs.

There are so many non-violent drug users in prison that there's no room for the murderers and rapist.

Early release of the most violent element of society to make room for drug users is CHAOS.

Illegal Drugs will always be legal and lethal...So are legal prescription drugs....and booze.

Prohibition of any kind simply doesn't work.

It creates a Black market...gangs...shootouts...corruption...ect ect.

Prohibition = Chaos.

 

[archangel]

There are so many non-violent drug users in prison that there's no room for the murderers and rapist.

This can be solved by putting them in rehabilitation centers. not by making all the drugs legal. You are not helping any community by making drugs that give health problems legal and easy to use. You are simply killing them faster.(cigs are a example of what bad things that are legal can do to harm people. so many lives lost. so many lies given to just make a dollar)

Illegal Drugs will always be legal and lethal...So are legal prescription drugs....and booze.

Something can not be both legal and illegal. It is one or the other.
Abuse of legal prescription drugs has cost lost of life to the community. We are against people killing themselves and not for it. The same can be said about alcohol. These are bad examples to use for someone arguing to legalize all drugs as they have cost thousands in lives while being legal.

It creates a Black market...gangs...shootouts...corruption...ect ect.

All of these things have a far less amount of people dying over making every drug legal. How many people die from cigarettes because that is legal? The number would be far less with it being illegal.

Prohibition = Chaos.

The point of prohibition is to slow it down and not stop it. We are all aware that humanity doesn't have the ability to stop every thing that goes wrong. adding laws to put order into keeping people alive and healthy is not choas. adding rehabilitation centers is how you solve the problem and not by making every drug under the sun that can kill people legal.

 

[The Dark King]

Arch your issue isn't drug use i's drug abuse. There's a difference my friend.
You can't compare cigarettes to drugs since it doesn't impair your ability to function. The better comparison would be alcohol and like any other drug it's bad when abused but not when you do it moderately, like two glasses of wine a day is ok but drinking a bottle a day will be bad for your liver.
Legalizing drugs won't tempt those who weren't going to do it in the first place. Like Flame said the prohibition movement in the 20s didn't work because were drinking anyway.

 

[archangel]

Arch your issue isn't drug use i's drug abuse. There's a difference my friend.
You can't compare cigarettes to drugs since it doesn't impair your ability to function. The better comparison would be alcohol and like any other drug it's bad when abused but not when you do it moderately, like two glasses of wine a day is ok but drinking a bottle a day will be bad for your liver.

What about the hard drugs that have no moderation. steriods two times a day will not help you. It will kill most people. Is that something that you can moderate?

Legalizing drugs won't tempt those who weren't going to do it in the first place. Like Flame said the prohibition movement in the 20s didn't work because were drinking anyway.

What about the hard drugs that have no moderation. steriods two times a day will not help you. It will kill you.

You are not thinking of the health and death cases. Many have died from steriods, lcd, angel dust, cocaine and many other drugs. To make them legal would only allow people to start doing damage to their bodies. Like I said before prohibition is not there to stop every one. It is there to slow it down. Prohibition of murder isn't working should we start making murder legal?

Fact of the matter is making all the drugs legal would only make more crack babies.
It seems that is what many of you are arguing for by making any drug legal which would mean making it legal for babies to use crack lcd, steriods, angel dust cocaine and any drug their parents feel is ok for a baby to use.

 

[OpenHeart]

There are so many factors that come into play though. A lot of black guys come from broken homes and have never met their fathers or dont have them in their lives. So they are undisiplined and lead a life of crime.

your response saddens me. Is this a valid reason to place an unusual long sentence on them for a first time nonviolent offense, Iggy? Do you not really see a design in all of this. Just because a certain group may be predisposed to committing a particular nonviolent crime is that grounds for abusive punishment while allowing another group to receive lighter punishments for certain violent crimes?

I highly doubt there is a government conspriacy to arrest all black men.

This is deeper shit than you realize. You're right there is no conspiracy. A conspiracy is carried out secretly. This is being done blatantly right before your very face. But you and so many others are igging it...Iggy.

Thats a load of bs imo. Some of y'all need to lay off the weed, its making you mofos super paranoid

The justice system coupled with the prison system is holding down your population and oppressing your black community and all you can do is sit there and make jokes about it? You really sadden me.:sad:

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The following quote is the damn truth Iggy...

There are so many non-violent drug users in prison that there's no room for the murderers and rapist.

- Flaminghetero

 

[Morning Star]

Portugal decriminalized all drugs and it's been a major success after five years. There were inital fears relating to the manner at hand when it comes to decriminalization - increased usage, violence, etc...but reports documented from the CATO Instituted proved otherwise. Here's a quote from the article:

Five years later, the number of deaths from street drug overdoses dropped from around 400 to 290 annually, and the number of new HIV cases caused by using dirty needles to inject heroin, cocaine and other illegal substances plummeted from nearly 1,400 in 2000 to about 400 in 2006, according to a report released recently by the Cato Institute, a Washington, D.C, libertarian think tank.

Even in countries like the Netherlands, one of the liberal countries in the world practically decriminalized all drugs and the effects are the same - crime and substance abuse dropped dramatically. So really, the idea that "drugs are bad" is inane and thus penalization of drugs only makes things much worse.

 

[z]

Legalize drugs
Legalize prostitution
Legalize gay marriage
Legalize sex change
Legalize gambling in every state
Heavily tax drugs, ETOH, cigarettes.
Tax the shit out of entertainment biz owners who make billions
Get rid of Obama care
Build a fence around Mexico
Fire corporate sharks who take millions as bonus
Train great teachers for future Gen.
Stop kowtowing for muzzy extremist
Stop poking your nose to evey foreign affair
Stop handing citizenship thru marriage
Stop censoring free speech
Stop targeting minorities for crimes
Stop wasting our tax money, housing & educating petty criminals
Stop tying our court system with major criminals
Use the one bullet theory for any serial rapist, serial killer and pedophiles
Why is Charles Manson still alive?
Dont try to take our rights to bear arm.
Get rid of the Bush and Obama doctorine
Do a prison reform!

 

[goodlove]

your response saddens me. Is this a valid reason to place an unusual long sentence on them for a first time nonviolent offense, Iggy? Do you not really see a design in all of this. Just because a certain group may be predisposed to committing a particular nonviolent crime is that grounds for abusive punishment while allowing another group to receive lighter punishments for certain violent crimes?


This is deeper shit than you realize. You're right there is no conspiracy. A conspiracy is carried out secretly. This is being done blatantly right before your very face. But you and so many others are igging it...Iggy.



The justice system coupled with the prison system is holding down your population and oppressing your black community and all you can do is sit there and make jokes about it? You really sadden me.:sad:

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The following quote is the damn truth Iggy...

I was listening to a radio conservative talk show...2 different shows I will talk about:

show number 1) white talk show host male. stating the following: BM make up the most in the prison system ..yadda yadda conservative talking points.. you know obey the law..do the crime do the time..yadda yadda. bad neighborhood. ect...

white woman called and she stated " BM are targeted and get the harshest crimes (something of the sort).

conservative interrupted and said something slick about like how do you know. she responded "Im married to a bm and I live in a ruff a neighborhood next to drug dealers. Wboys come to the neighborhood to and get busted all the time but they are back the next day getting stuff but the blacks do catch a break"
there was a hush over waves for about 2seconds (thats a longtime for radio) and he move on.

call 2 different show: man called in about his son responding to show host who was doing his talking pts(same ole same ole) and the man said that his son has been arrested 3 times and each time they sent him to treatment centers and ect... but he never went to jail for a long stint. HMMMMMM

get my point

you supported what I have been saying in my story along with this video on msnbc with al sharpton, jeff johnson and ben jealous. just find the video that has those names on it and watch

http://newsone.com/newsone-original/boycewatkins/cornel-west-sharpton-fighting/?omcamp=EMC-CVNL

 

[OpenHeart]

you supported what I have been saying in my story along with this video on msnbc with al sharpton, jeff johnson and ben jealous. just find the video that has those names on it and watch
http://newsone.com/newsone-original/boycewatkins/cornel-west-sharpton-fighting/?omcamp=EMC-CVNL

GL, I did just that and I am so glad I did. Thanks for telling me. I looked up Ben Jealous and found a video which was recorded on April 7, 2011. After watching it, I felt that I should post it here. A lot of insightful and horrible things are reveal in it and judging from the "so what" attitude that many have, maybe they will see the seriousness of this issue. Personally, I am glad to see more whites beginning to speak out on this sinful situation. Because until whites start speaking out, nothing will be done. Blacks are always viewed as whiners and often ignored. Then there are not enough of them that want to rise up with marches and boycotts which are very effective tools for change.

This is the one thing I like about my man. He is a fighter for change. He is very concerned and compassionate about the crisis of the African American community and he has passed this on to me also. Some people think that a black man can't be involved with a white woman and still fight the injustices against black people, but that is simply not true.

America only has 5% of the world's population. Just 5%. Yet, America has the largest prison system in the world...bigger than that of China. Over 40% of that is black men. The majority of black men in prison are there on NONviolent charges and doing way more time than a man who commits crimes upon women and children. The laws are a net which is designed to "catch and keep" minorities for a longer period of time than they do whites which commit white collar crimes, pedophile crimes, etc.

The money being made is in the billions. Believe me, if the government was LOSING money, it would not be imprisoning a man for 20 years for selling just 10 pounds marijuana. The conspiracy laws in place permit them to imprison innocent people without being challenged on it. Thus, many blacks are in prison are serving time for crimes that they themselves did not even commit. Thanks to Clinton (the black man's president LOL) the 3 strikes you're out bill has some blacks doing 15 years in prison for stealing a bicycle...not rape, not robbing a bank, not beating a woman to death...but for stealing a bicycle.

Anyway GL, here's the video. It is definitely a must see for anyone who really wants to know why this is not funny at all, but a very serious issue concerning the plight of young black men in America.

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[FG]

Legalize drugs
Legalize prostitution
Legalize gay marriage
Legalize sex change
Legalize gambling in every state
Heavily tax drugs, ETOH, cigarettes.
Tax the shit out of entertainment biz owners who make billions
Get rid of Obama care
Build a fence around Mexico
Fire corporate sharks who take millions as bonus
Train great teachers for future Gen.
Stop kowtowing for muzzy extremist
Stop poking your nose to evey foreign affair
Stop handing citizenship thru marriage
Stop censoring free speech
Stop targeting minorities for crimes
Stop wasting our tax money, housing & educating petty criminals
Stop tying our court system with major criminals
Use the one bullet theory for any serial rapist, serial killer and pedophiles
Why is Charles Manson still alive?
Dont try to take our rights to bear arm.
Get rid of the Bush and Obama doctorine
Do a prison reform!

Legalize sex change?? I thought it was legal????

 

[goodlove]

GL, I did just that and I am so glad I did. Thanks for telling me. I looked up Ben Jealous and found a video which was recorded on April 7, 2011. After watching it, I felt that I should post it here. A lot of insightful and horrible things are reveal in it and judging from the "so what" attitude that many have, maybe they will see the seriousness of this issue. Personally, I am glad to see more whites beginning to speak out on this sinful situation. Because until whites start speaking out, nothing will be done. Blacks are always viewed as whiners and often ignored. Then there are not enough of them that want to rise up with marches and boycotts which are very effective tools for change.

This is the one thing I like about my man. He is a fighter for change. He is very concerned and compassionate about the crisis of the African American community and he has passed this on to me also. Some people think that a black man can't be involved with a white woman and still fight the injustices against black people, but that is simply not true. America only has 5% of the world's population. Just 5%. Yet, America has the largest prison system in the world...bigger than that of China. Over 40% of that is black men. The majority of black men in prison are there on NONviolent charges and doing way more time than a man who commits crimes upon women and children. The laws are a net which is designed to "catch and keep" minorities for a longer period of time than they do whites which commit white collar crimes, pedophile crimes, etc.

The money being made is in the billions. Believe me, if the government was LOSING money, it would not be imprisoning a man for 20 years for selling just 10 pounds marijuana. The conspiracy laws in place permit them to imprison innocent people without being challenged on it. Thus, many blacks are in prison are serving time for crimes that they themselves did not even commit. Thanks to Clinton (the black man's president LOL) the 3 strikes you're out bill has some blacks doing 15 years in prison for stealing a bicycle...not rape, not robbing a bank, not beating a woman to death...but for stealing a bicycle.

Anyway GL, here's the video. It is definitely a must see for anyone who really wants to know why this is not funny at all, but a very serious issue concerning the plight of young black men in America.

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over all awesome post. it is funny people say BM lose their "blackness" if they are in an IR. It is completely hog wash. fredrick douglas was married to a white woman

 

[Iggy]

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True dat bruh. Niggas ain't caring bout the niggas who are tied up. that's less competition for us free brothas. Weah da white women at. LOL

Haha. Yeah I mean, I am not gonna feel sorry for some of these idiots that are slangin dope. Yeah that shit should probably be legal but these ashy fools should be well aware of the consequences.

And its even worse if these morons have kids. Good grief its a never ending cycle. smdh

 

[flaminghetero]

Haha. Yeah I mean, I am not gonna feel sorry for some of these idiots that are slangin dope. Yeah that shit should probably be legal but these ashy fools should be well aware of the consequences.

And its even worse if these morons have kids. Good grief its a never ending cycle. smdh

Hey Ms Piggy...

What about the pale fools that are laundering....distributing... and processing the drugs???

Don't get all tuff on the Black street slingers...that's easy.

That's what bitches do...

You're not a bitch are you...??

 

[Mikey]

over all awesome post. it is funny people say BM lose their "blackness" if they are in an IR. It is completely hog wash. fredrick douglas was married to a white woman

He didn't bash black women to prove that he liked white women, did he?

 

[The Dark King]

Hey Ms Piggy...

What about the pale fools that are laundering....distributing... and processing the drugs???

Don't get all tuff on the Black street slingers...that's easy.

That's what bitches do...

You're not a bitch are you...??

Real talk. There's no backlash for going after black people as bad guys.

 

[flaminghetero]

Real talk. There's no backlash for going after black people as bad guys.

That's why bitches like Iggy talk so tough about them.

If you look into the big end of the drug trade...you'll find some powerful and influential people..banks..and orginizations involved.

Iggy's balls ain't that big...hell...they ain't even hooked up....lol.