both of the hadid sisters supposedly dating black men

The Dark King said:
I don't claim dude and this isn't even a matter of claiming as much as question hoe much of the black experience do these people experience? And it's not just skin tone it's how the world embraces you. People act like the phenomenon of passing never happened. Like hiring practices weren't based on this field slave house slave dynamic.
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Are people arguing biology or sociology?
 
The Dark King said:
I don't claim dude and this isn't even a matter of claiming as much as question hoe much of the black experience do these people experience? And it's not just skin tone it's how the world embraces you. People act like the phenomenon of passing never happened. Like hiring practices weren't based on this field slave house slave dynamic.
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How much of the 'black experience' have you faced growing up with silver spoons and gold plates

:smt005

And that slave dynamic is real

We are all black but face it, some had it way crazier than others just because of their shade

Like I said, that shit is why animosity exists within our community

You can't open up dialogue about black on black 'racism' or whatever, without understanding the history behind it

We were divided and kept conquered...house vs field
 
The Dark King said:
More sociology but biology should play a part here considering we all love to cling to this one drop rule stuff.
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Biologically speaking Vanessa, Tiger and everyone else of that ilk qualifies whether they claim "black status" or not. Sociologically speaking, is blackness synonymous with suffering? If so, do wealthy blacks "become" white? That sounds like Brazil, lol.
 
orejon4 said:
And Latina doesn't count, because it's a race-less cultural classification that ranges from West African to German in features.
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Is it? Because people ranging from Mezzo to white can claim it but blacks can't they're just black. The more African you look the less options you have.
 
KinCA said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pencil_test_(South_Africa)

The pencil test is a method of assessing whether a person has Afro-textured hair. In the pencil test, a pencil is pushed through the person's hair. How easily it comes out determines whether the person has "passed" or "failed" the test.
This test was used to determine racial identity in South Africa during the apartheid era, distinguishing whites from coloureds and blacks. The test was partially responsible for splitting existing communities and families along perceived racial lines. Its formal authority ended with the end of apartheid in 1994. It remains an important part of South African cultural heritage and a symbol of racism.


(and no I don't support Wikipedia as a reputable source, but then I don't consider this type of garbage reputable).
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That's South Africa, not the U.S..and its a stupid 'test'...is TDK gonna tell Aboriginies (original man) they aren't Black enough?

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The PENCIL is dropping.
 
pettyofficerj said:
How much of the 'black experience' have you faced growing up with silver spoons and gold plates

:smt005

And that slave dynamic is real

We are all black but face it, some had it way crazier than others just because of their shade

Like I said, that shit is why animosity exists within our community

You can't open up dialogue about black on black 'racism' or whatever, without understanding the history behind it

We were divided and kept conquered...house vs field
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A term I've commonly heard amongst racially ambiguous people "you can be whatever you want " meaning you can phase in and out as you please from certain racially charged situations.
 
Bliss said:
That's South Africa, not the U.S..and its a stupid 'test'...is YDK gonna tell Aboriginies (original man) they aren't Black enough?

The PENCIL is dropping.
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Crazy isn't it!! Conversely then my Italian children with very curly hair must be black because no pencil would get through their hair easily.
 
Bliss said:
That's South Africa, not the U.S..and its a stupid 'test'...is YDK gonna tell Aboriginies (original man) they aren't Black enough?

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I'd embrace them as black, no doubt

The issue here is high yella people with straight hair...

I think.....I don't know what this thread is about anymore...fuck it
 
The Dark King said:
I wonder if youare just intellectually dishonest or you truly don't get it.
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Let me try again lol,, doesn't matter who her momma and daddy is, what we are talking about here is if she were nameless and she is pulled over confronted etc etc she can pass for a bunch of diff races,, what she is doesn't matter ( in this instance) Cuban check Brazilian check North African check and countless others that's all tdk is trying to say
That or I'm as crazy as many here think he is cuz I get him
 
free816 said:
Let me try again lol,, doesn't matter who her momma and daddy is, what we are talking about here is if she were nameless and she is pulled over confronted etc etc she can pass for a bunch of diff races,, what she is doesn't matter ( in this instance) Cuban check Brazilian check North African check and countless others that's all tdk is trying to say
That or I'm as crazy as many here think he is cuz I get him
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All of this racial examination shit just shows you why this 'system' needs to die

Why can't we just be the human race...ugh

Or just use the rich/poor system...much easier to understand
 
free816 said:
Let me try again lol,, doesn't matter who her momma and daddy is, what we are talking about here is if she were nameless and she is pulled over confronted etc etc she can pass for a bunch of diff races,, what she is doesn't matter ( in this instance) Cuban check Brazilian check North African check and countless others that's all tdk is trying to say
That or I'm as crazy as many here think he is cuz I get him
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I think this is absolutely true. It doesn't matter what someone claims to be...if they are out on the road and get pulled they are going to be perceived however that individual who is pulling them perceives. Not like they have a chance to pull the card saying they are x, y, or z nationality. Nor is the cop going to be taking the time to ask.
 
free816 said:
Let me try again lol,, doesn't matter who her momma and daddy is, what we are talking about here is if she were nameless and she is pulled over confronted etc etc she can pass for a bunch of diff races,, what she is doesn't matter ( in this instance) Cuban check Brazilian check North African check and countless others that's all tdk is trying to say
That or I'm as crazy as many here think he is cuz I get him
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Thank you lol
 
The Dark King said:
I wonder if youare just intellectually dishonest or you truly don't get it.
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Stop. You are being intellectually disrespectful to the plethora of brown skinned and light skinned people who have experienced racism because they were simply deemed black. No different than you.

You are employing the paper bag test yourself - If you're dark, you experience racism...all the rest, not so much. It's such a blanket bullshit belief. There are Africans way darker than you who could say the same to you as you are saying here.

Fact is, it's your life experiences. You could be light skinned and go through life encountering people who are racist because ...you are just not white. Why are you not allowing for those personal experiences.
 
pettyofficerj said:
All of this racial examination shit just shows you why this 'system' needs to die

Why can't we just be the human race...ugh

Or just use the rich/poor system...much easier to understand
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true...and when it comes down to it, it's more about socio-economic differences.
 
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