Bullfighting - sexy and cool or disgusting and cruel?

as low as trying to make a forum debate personal. condoning silvercoma's threat to hit me because i didnt agree with his point of view---hypocritical in the least.

so if you think that is cool, a sport is cool too. you have no compassion for humans, i have compassion for humans and the animals--and they are all eaten in the end


I love porterhouse cut!! :P
 
I already explained to you what I thought of silvercosma wanting to knock sense into you and I'm not going to say it again.

And don't say I have no compassion for humans, you dey talk jazz.
 
well since you can support that knocking sense in me, since I dont jump on his support band wagon

I can stick a spear and sword in a bull in the art of the fight!

OLe

there is an awesome chili sauce in argentina that is so good on beef right after it is killed in the bullfight, it is delicious
 
I may defend something within reason, but I don't glorify it. Each to their own. And you are purposely saying such things to try and get a rise, which is very playground and I'd expect better out of someone of your age. But as you've already played the race card God knows how many times, actually I don't expect any better at all.

I have a baby to feed now, so I shall leave you to it.
 
ahhh, no not trying to get a rise, you tried to bring this thread out so you could get sympathy for your intolerance and your support of violence. I didnt begin it, I just want to know why you are making this personal.
 
as it was a personal attck from the beginning or she wouldnt have mentioned my name, the bullfight is the most passionate, beautiful symbol of man and beast struggle. It is not a loss to the bull who is the symbol of strength, but the grace of el matador, who loves the beast and participates in teh dance de corridas de torreo!!
 
I believe this is just a misunderstanding. You guys used to be pretty cool with each other. What happened?

My opinion? I don't like the sport, but I do eat meat and wear leather shoes. Having raised animals (chicken, goats) while growing up, I find it very difficult to see animals being tortured. I do have friends who love the sport. I usually just say "see you later".
 
Sympathy for what Tuck? I don't that that from anyone, least of all in respect of you. You may be one of the oldest people on here, but that doesn't make you the elder statesman. If you can't have a sensible discussion with me without playing the race card or throwing racism at the then I really don't want to know. I critisised your love of this "sport" as you posted about, and I disagreed with it - which is both of our rights and in keeping with the nature of the topic. But you cheaply accused me supporting racism and threw slavery at me, when all you have connecting me to such horrible things is the fact that I'm white. That is really really cheap and low. It is no better for a black person to such things than it is for a white person, and if you're not capable of a sensible discussion then consider this one over.

And infiniti, this isn't a misunderstanding, but him taking things too far. I can live and let live with his views on bullfighting and pretty much anything else as that is human nature. But in his other thread in "movies", he accused me of racism and threw slavery back at me. Now that really isn't fair, just because I'm white and European, that doesn't mean I support either. I'm sick and tired of such bullshit, this is the type of spew that I've seen on racist black sites, blaming white people for everything and trying to make all of us not even born in those types to pay for it. It is low and cheap.
 
I will not tolerate being called a racist and having slavery thrown at me. The only connection between me and those hideous acts is my race, which makes it a racist comment. But that's OK coming from a bm aimed at a ww I suppose?

With that kind of shit REAL racism slips through the net as people get sympathy fatigue from hearing the word "racist" bandied about at every white person who happens to disagree with a black person, or who was born into a culture who once "ruled the waves" etc. I cannot help the nature of white people in the past or present, and nor am I a representative for them, or the British, I am me and will not put up with that sort of crap thrown at me, it's really cheap.
 
Iffy'swifey said:
I will not tolerate being called a racist and having slavery thrown at me. The only connection between me and those hideous acts is my race, which makes it a racist comment. But that's OK coming from a bm aimed at a ww I suppose?
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Accusing you of being a racist supporter of slavery because you detest violence and torture against living beings is just a ridiculous diversionary tactic. Totally absurd. Even more so, when you consider the fact that he, who attacks you simply because he classifies you as "white", is a self claimed "oreo" who defends any kind of inhuman and cruel practices, be it executions, genocides, torture of the innocent and the killing of children in wars simply because the currently leading chimptard decided that it's right and just.

I assure you that nobody has to think twice to figure out who of you two would have been the one standing up against this kind of inhumanity and who of you two would have had less likely the courage and the necessary sense of self determination to do so.

Since we are talking about courage, I find it very disturbing that other members on this side hadn't had the courage to step up for you and to defend you from his attacks and slander. It's always easy to talk the talk, but when it comes to walking the walk ...oh well .... I for my part will read the posts on this side with a big grain of salt from now on.
 
Iffy'swifey said:
My point is that as I said, I have noticed many Americans seem to much more into blood "sports" than here in the UK where many have been banned.
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America has to fight wars because they provide jobs for poor people; it has to keep people poor and desensitized to violence in order to fight wars.
The ongoing brutalization of the American society is designed to break down humanitarian norms, and to condition people to accept a new set of values that embrace destruction, violence, and death as a way of life.

I wonder how many people are still able to see that there is something wrong with the following:


The first-grader was suspended for three days for sexual harassment after he put two fingers inside a classmate's waistband, school officials told his mother, Berthena Dorinvil. The boy told her he only touched the girl's shirt after the girl touched him. ... In 1996, a New York second-grader was suspended for kissing a girl ... Earlier that year, a Lexington, N.C., 6-year-old was separated from his class after kissing a classmate on the cheek 1
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I shot my very first doe with only one bullet at a running pace and it dropped dead. Me and My dad Mike were so happy about this doe. My dad says I did better than he did that year because he couldn't get anything.
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infiniti, it was no misunderstanding--she didnt like the fact that I like Bullfighting, which is her right, but then she tried to gain sympathy for her position by trying to get others like silvercoma to agree with her by bringing the same post over to this forum.

I can like bullfighting, just as European love to butcher people with genocide from Nazi Germany, to the slave trade to genocide in the 3rd world under colonialism.

she doesnt mind using a bully pulpit to shout down others for liking a sport, and then getting her boy(silvercoma) to do her gumflapping cause she has racist tendencies. if she doesnt like bullfighting, cool, I do, thats the point.
 
good pics too! yes walk away, make you opinion and walk away, you dont need stepin fetchit boys speaking for you

good job porch monks
 
Woah there! How about we remember the first entertainment bloodsports - in Ancient Greece and ROME no less, so what the hell has this to do with the UK or the US? And isn't bullfighting Spanish!?

Can't say I'm down with it myself...or hunting...but it might die itself out in a few years time anyway. The UK certainly does have a different opinion to many other nations on blood sports, animal rights are ingrained into our laws as well as society's opinion, so many pressure groups and non profit groups are around to preserve the rights of man's best friend, in the biggest nation of dog and cat lovers in the world. Of course it's all relative and culturally subjective, and I've never really had much of an issue myself about EATING animals (one aspect to animal rights). The world is, after all, made up of a giant food chain which isn't entirely constructed of grains and mushrooms...tigers, lions and sharks would happily eat me and in return I'm happy to eat farm animals who have been bred for that purpose. But standing watching a sport where animals will die? That's an altogether different matter, not just because of the simple fact of killing animals but because of its pointlessness: why are they having to die? Why are they having to go through pain? Don't they have any dignity? At the end of the day, like it or not, if anyone was involved in a plane crash and one of the crew died, he would probably get eaten somewhere on a desert island...because even humans are meat to be eaten...but would you dress him up, parade him around, torture him and then kill him to be left to the jackals? I think not, and neither are animals the rightful object of our sport. Bullfighting definitely comes into this category: I appreciate that some people feel it's artistic, or incredibly skilled, and the fighters are certainly brave, but I think it's brutal and horrid for all of that - along with fox hunting, bearbaiting, etc etc...
 
thats what I have been saying, It is spanish, and UK and US were not into. the Romans and Greeks would put humans in the same pits as they put bulls, lions, and other beasts

some dont like bullfighting for sure and that is their right, it is an open forum
 
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