Can A Woman's Love Be Bought?

[orejon4]

Maybe I'm just different. I want to give just as much as I want to get in a relationship. It's not all about me.

I wasn't saying 'everyone' is, but it appears to be prevalent, especially in the 'me' generation. I try to ask very little of my partner, so as to avoid being needy or demanding. That way I'm not ever guilty of exploiting someone. I just ask that we enjoy the time we spend together to the maximum extent possible. But even that isn't always achievable.

 

[The Dark King]

I believe that most people want things their way, regardless of what that way is and regardless of whether it is beneficial for the other party. I think most people view relationships like most other things, in utilitarian terms. I think that's unfortunate, but I think it's generally true.

All I want is peace fam

 

[Sin Mari]

Maybe I'm just different. I want to give just as much as I want to get in a relationship. It's not all about me.

I'm the same.

The whole 'all women only want men with money' thing is a tired notion tossed around by men who can't get a woman to hang around. I mean if the money issue was true, no poor guy would ever get a woman and yet the world is full of poor men with wives (or girlfriends....or both ), who love them dearly.
Just because there are women in the world who prostitute themselves for money, doesn't mean they're the majority.

 

[Tamstrong]

I'm the same.

The whole 'all women only want men with money' thing is a tired notion tossed around by men who can't get a woman to hang around. I mean if the money issue was true, no poor guy would ever get a woman and yet the world is full of poor men with wives (or girlfriends....or both ), who love them dearly.
Just because there are women in the world who prostitute themselves for money, doesn't mean they're the majority.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Sin Mari again.

I co-sign the hell out of this post. :smt023

 

[The Dark King]

I'm the same.

The whole 'all women only want men with money' thing is a tired notion tossed around by men who can't get a woman to hang around. I mean if the money issue was true, no poor guy would ever get a woman and yet the world is full of poor men with wives (or girlfriends....or both ), who love them dearly.
Just because there are women in the world who prostitute themselves for money, doesn't mean they're the majority.

Depends on where you live. That kind of dismissive attitude is not different than what you're critiquing. Btw have you seen the kind of women poor men get? Usually not the type of women a man with standards wants to have sex with. They usually love them because their options are scarce at best.

And when you label it as prostituting you paint a money exchanging hands picture when its more like being kept in comfortable and favorable surroundings. Its been my observation that most women who have the ability to get comfortable surroundings will do so and more importantly will take it if a man is providing. I generally don't see pretty desirable women saying no to that kind of lifestyle.

 

[The Dark King]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Sin Mari again.

I co-sign the hell out of this post. :smt023

Of course you would lol smh

 

[orejon4]

I'm the same.

The whole 'all women only want men with money' thing is a tired notion tossed around by men who can't get a woman to hang around. I mean if the money issue was true, no poor guy would ever get a woman and yet the world is full of poor men with wives (or girlfriends....or both ), who love them dearly.
Just because there are women in the world who prostitute themselves for money, doesn't mean they're the majority.

I wasn't trying to imply this is a women-only sort of thing. Note that I said there are just as many men willing to pay to have their way as there are women willing to acquiesce. As for poor couples, I don't think that disproves the trend. I think in general people are looking to maximize their utility in the arena in which they find themselves. Poor men and poor women have zero opportunity to improve their lot and "date up", so they try to do the best with the hand they've been dealt. What I was really trying to get at is that, even in relationships that are ostensibly genuine, there is often a sense of shared mutual exchange that both are subscribing to. I have had relationships where I wanted nothing from the woman, but those are rare, I think. Usually both members of a couple have some sort of selfish need that they are seeking to fulfill, even if that need is a need for love. It is rarely out of some selfless desire to help someone else.

 

[The Dark King]

I wasn't trying to imply this is a women-only sort of thing. Note that I said there are just as many men willing to pay to have their way as there are women willing to acquiesce. As for poor couples, I don't think that disproves the trend. I think in general people are looking to maximize their utility in the arena in which they find themselves. Poor men and poor women have zero opportunity to improve their lot and "date up", so they try to do the best with the hand they've been dealt. What I was really trying to get at is that, even in relationships that are ostensibly genuine, there is often a sense of shared mutual exchange that both are subscribing to. I have had relationships where I wanted nothing from the woman, but those are rare, I think. Usually both members of a couple have some sort of selfish need that they are seeking to fulfill, even if that need is a need for love. It is rarely out of some selfless desire to help someone else.

I thought love was selfless

 

[MissWacy]

I'm the same.

The whole 'all women only want men with money' thing is a tired notion tossed around by men who can't get a woman to hang around. I mean if the money issue was true, no poor guy would ever get a woman and yet the world is full of poor men with wives (or girlfriends....or both ), who love them dearly.
Just because there are women in the world who prostitute themselves for money, doesn't mean they're the majority.

truth

 

[Frederick]

No. Love can't be bought, but most broads will let you rent their pink if you have enough scratch. You can bet on that.

 

[The Dark King]

truth

Lol word is it?

You're a girl of my generation. Do you think most girls around our ages actually want to work?

 

[orejon4]

Lol word is it?

You're a girl of my generation. Do you think most girls around our ages actually want to work?

I think the smart ones do because they understand the dangers of being dependent on someone. My favorite stat is the one about education and empowerment for women being the best predictor of social development and a controlled birth rate. But there's always someone out there who wants a free ride.

 

[The Dark King]

I think the smart ones do because they understand the dangers of being dependent on someone. My favorite stat is the one about education and empowerment for women being the best predictor of social development and a controlled birth rate. But there's always someone out there who wants a free ride.

I think being able to work and willing to work are two different things. On their own women are just as capable as we are there's no denying that but whether its socially engrained or innate many seem to want to fall back and let the man kind of take over financially ("be a man"). Again it can be where I'm from but you have no idea how many women I encountered who were waiting to meet a man to change their lives. People who were artists were banking on a husband so they could have health insurance and help take care of some debt. My favorite are all the teachers and social workers who take low paying thankless jobs because they know they'll get married and the dude will improve their situation. Ii know someone will read this and think I'm full because they aren't like that but unfortunately every woman doesn't think like the women on this board.

 

[Ches]

It used to be the norm back before say, the 70's and 80's, for a woman to stay at home, not because she was lazy or didn't want to work, but because she wanted to be a homemaker. Which, believe it or not, is still a valid "career" imo. It's hard to work full-time and devote yourself to your family full-time. And, no matter what the job sharing is like in a 2-working household, I still say the brunt of the homemaking falls on the woman.

I was fortunate enough to be able to stay home with my son for 8 years when I was married. And I was a very busy stay-at-home mom. I filled some of my free time with volunteering which was very satisfying. Did I feel guilty that my husband was shouldering all the financial burden? Occasionally. But then I looked at my contribution to our family and that guilt was gone. My priorities were not divided between an employer and my family. I could devote myself 100% to my home and family and that took alot of weight off his shoulders so he was free to concentrate on his career.

 

[The Dark King]

It used to be the norm back before say, the 70's and 80's, for a woman to stay at home, not because she was lazy or didn't want to work, but because she wanted to be a homemaker. Which, believe it or not, is still a valid "career" imo. It's hard to work full-time and devote yourself to your family full-time. And, no matter what the job sharing is like in a 2-working household, I still say the brunt of the homemaking falls on the woman.

I was fortunate enough to be able to stay home with my son for 8 years when I was married. And I was a very busy stay-at-home mom. I filled some of my free time with volunteering which was very satisfying. Did I feel guilty that my husband was shouldering all the financial burden? Occasionally. But then I looked at my contribution to our family and that guilt was gone. My priorities were not divided between an employer and my family. I could devote myself 100% to my home and family and that took alot of weight off his shoulders so he was free to concentrate on his career.

On every woman or your shit situation??

Any decent guy will come home and cook and do laundry and other chores on weekends. My dad prepared more meals than my mom and he was the only one who kept the outside look neat and clean and shoveled all the snow during winter and raked the leaves during fall etc.
A man who comes home from work and puts his feet up and waits to be waited on is a shitty guy. Most men in my experience aren't like that.

 

[orejon4]

I think being able to work and willing to work are two different things. On their own women are just as capable as we are there's no denying that but whether its socially engrained or innate many seem to want to fall back and let the man kind of take over financially ("be a man"). Again it can be where I'm from but you have no idea how many women I encountered who were waiting to meet a man to change their lives. People who were artists were banking on a husband so they could have health insurance and help take care of some debt. My favorite are all the teachers and social workers who take low paying thankless jobs because they know they'll get married and the dude will improve their situation. Ii know someone will read this and think I'm full because they aren't like that but unfortunately every woman doesn't think like the women on this board.

I hate to say this, but one of my best friends is married to a woman like this. She is a wonderful person and loves him to death, but she took a low-paying social worker job and then tries to tell him how to spend his (read: the family's) money (he earns 4x her salary) and called his luxury car (his one guilty pleasure, the guy's not popping bottles every night) "bourgeois". She cannot fathom that his earnings are what allow her to live comfortably and got hurt and angry when he pointed that out as he asserted his right to enjoy some of the fruits of his labor.

But let me point out, this anecdotal experience DOES NOT make a rule.

 

[The Dark King]

I hate to say this, but one of my best friends is married to a woman like this. She is a wonderful person and loves him to death, but she took a low-paying social worker job and then tries to tell him how to spend his (read: the family's) money (he earns 4x her salary) and called his luxury car (his one guilty pleasure, the guy's not popping bottles every night) "bourgeois". She cannot fathom that his earnings are what allow her to live comfortably and got hurt and angry when he pointed that out as he asserted his right to enjoy some of the fruits of his labor.

But let me point out, this anecdotal experience DOES NOT make a rule.

But a great example of what I'm talking about. A lot of them(not all) try to be mother Theresea on someone elses dime. Granted there are women who honestly don't care but unfortunately for me they aren't usually hot and aren't within child bearing years.

 

[orejon4]

But a great example of what I'm talking about. A lot of them(not all) try to be mother Theresea on someone elses dime. Granted there are women who honestly don't care but unfortunately for me they aren't usually hot and aren't within child bearing years.

But in all fairness to some really sexy women, if they know that a man is seeking to exploit their sexuality, then exploiting him financially is a perfectly rational strategy. If she knows he views her as a commodity that will soon fade, she has to maximize her returns during that narrow window, sort of like a pro athlete charging as much as they can because their career is over by 40. The sad reality is that a lot of people are getting with people for their own reasons, not for the selfless kind of love that is idealized.

 

[The Dark King]

But in all fairness to some really sexy women, if they know that a man is seeking to exploit their sexuality, then exploiting him financially is a perfectly rational strategy. If she knows he views her as a commodity that will soon fade, she has to maximize her returns during that narrow window, sort of like a pro athlete charing as much as they can because their career is over by 40. The sad reality is that a lot of people are getting with people for their own reasons, not for the selfless kind of love that is idealized.

Dude i'm not talking perfect 10 models just a girl who is height weight proportioned with a pretty face. I NEED to be physically attracted to someone as we all do. I hate that when bring it up it's demonized as being shallow when want the sane exact thing.

 

[orejon4]

Dude i'm not talking perfect 10 models just a girl who is height weight proportioned with a pretty face. I NEED to be physically attracted to someone as we all do. I hate that when bring it up it's demonized as being shallow when want the sane exact thing.

I wasn't referring to you in particular, just thinking about how some hot women might see things. I think a lot of them know that most guys just want some tail, and they're smart enough to beat them for their cash for it. It's hard to find a pretty woman who has no expectations from a man, is totally independent, focused on her own achievement, who just wants to hang out and have a few laughs over drinks, but they are out there. Don't give up. I've met some cool women in some random places.