If they ran me off then I wouldn't be able to come back under the same name. Put that old thinking cap on.
Chicago: Experiencing Shootings every week, Going Unnoticed
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If they ran me off then I wouldn't be able to come back under the same name. Put that old thinking cap on.
I'm located close to chi now too and yeah I don't go there much at all.
Problem with black lives matter is that it should encompass more than just lives of black people killed by white people or white cops. Make that shit something like end police brutality against black people or something like that. Because at this point I'm more likely to get shot by another black person than a white cop. So why only focus on those deaths? Is the white cop somehow better than the black person who would shoot me?
andreboba
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BLM wants to reform the legal justice system and law enforcement in particular.
If you did any research on the group would know this.
When American citizens are summarily and historically executed by public servants who take an oath to protect and serve and are rarely held accountable, that's a greater problem than some random murder.
There's no union, judge or DA who's ever going to defend your right to murder someone.
Stop being an apologist for bad cops and a broken system of law enforcement.
By the way ALL of us are more likely to be killed by a member of our own race, whether we are Chinese or Mexican.
That's a non-point.
The threat level and harassment Black people face from law enforcement is unlike any other ethnic or racial group in America.
We're policed more and incarcerated at higher levels for crimes all ethnic groups in America commit at similar rates,(drug use and possession).
BLM isn't the perfect name but don't shift the argument that BLM should be focusing on murder in general.
In theory it should be easier to end the use of deadly force by cops than it is to end gang violence.
All are more likely to be killed by the same race but the difference is we the only ones marching when someone else does it even though we do it to each other more than it gets done to us. Hypocrisy.
andreboba
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Does the oath to protect and serve' mean anything to you, or are you putting gang bangers at the same level of accountability and responsibility as cops??
The hypocrisy is that you care less about police officers tasked with enforcing law when they break the law.
LOL. What people are really saying with your argument is there's NO difference between the behavior of criminals and cops.
Murder is murder right???smh
Again, every racial and ethnic group kills more of their own than cops kill those same people, but be damn sure if there were endless cell phone vids of cops either using excessive force or outright murdering unarmed White or Hispanic civilians, those groups would be protesting too.
BTW look at any BLM protest, it's multiracial and multiethnic.
I love your thinking, Black people should sit down and shut up and only care about issues where Black folk suffer at the hands of other Blacks.:vom:
What's a shame is you think police brutality against Blacks only started yesterday.
We've been targeted and attacked by law enforcement before there was ever such a thing as gang violence.
BLM technically is a late arriving protest movement by about two centuries.
Yep every race kills more of their own but do you see them protesting when someone black kills someone white. Not to mention if they had a white lives matter rally you would be hollering "racist." And no one said the black community should only care about black on black issues but what is the bigger issue here.
If you have a family budget and money is getting right and you and your SO realize that fifty percent of the money coming in is spent on her buying clothes and 10 percent is Is used by you to to buy beer what is the bigger issue to attack first? woild beer be the thing to focus on? Would it be hypocritical for her to negate her spending and focus on yours as if that is the biggest threat ?
Does it make the police shootings right? Nope it doesn't. But let's not get only riled up when we feel it supports our cause of evil whitey
Pretty sure I fucked that example up.
flaminghetero
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K
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WTF??
I knew I fucked that up smh
So basically black folks killing black folks is a bigger issue (happens way more often) than police or white folks filling whites so why the hyper focus and protests on the smaller problem rather than the bigger problem. If the black on black crime and murders got plans much attention from the media and from black people as the police or white people killing a black person then there wouldn't be much to say on the hypocrisy
Not much has changed with you huh. Lol you remember that time you wanted to fight me in real life? That shit was funny.
K
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I think I somewhat understand what you were trying to say. I think it was Beasty who made the analogy with disease focused activist groups.
I hear your argument coming out of white folks all the time. I think it's limited and short sighted. Activists and groups are limited and focus on whatever it is they are drawn to, passionate about, and see needs their attention. Again, it's easier to complain about those who are out front doing something, rather than to get out their yourself. I think you may have some more weight in your conversation if you are out there focusing your time, energy, and money on black on black violence. I think your example was to try to say that police brutality is a lesser issue than black on black violence. There has been quite a bit of discussion on why that isn't the case, as well as why/how one does not exclude the other.
K
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Well first I don't think it's a hypocrisy. I think we have to look beneath the surface of black on black violence if you really want to have that conversation. You need to look to the root of the issues and the motivations of it all rather than to just buy into the bullshit that is spouted (mostly by the majority). And here's a bit for you too - what if it's just possible that police brutality is in fact part of the root of the black on black violence?
K
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Ah well....hmm I see there was a bunch that was going on when I wasn't around. smh
So maybe I should apologize for engaging a troll.
K
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Interesting how you twisted and oversimplified what I said.
DudeNY12
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I totally agree. While no one wants to be attacked or killed... The police took an oath to enforce the law, protect and serve etc, but they're doing it selectively. So, yes, it makes total sense for BLM to be protesting.
Sure, black on black violence is a problem. However, I think this whole thing of... What about black on black crime is simply a lame attempt to divert attention from an obvious problem in police culture. The problem for police (and why they're all up in their feelings) is that nowadays more people are realizing that they have a serious problem as well.
Loki
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No your suspected "troll" status is because yet again, same as when you were here before, you post EASILY refuted claims, exhibit A below from another thread. Im sure you see yourself as some type of Socratean gadfly boldy going against the status quo (or monolithic thought as you say) when in reality your opinions are often unsupportable by facts or reality.
Originally Posted by Paniro187
And if black lives mattered then they would protest more than only white police or white people shooting black people. That works both ways. Not one March until a white person or cop pulls the trigger.
Simply not true Paniro...
"Actually, Blacks Do Care About Black Crime"
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...otherwise.html
Agree on the second paragraph