Chik fil-a...freedom of speech or intolerance?

blacklexus

blacklexus

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I luv eating at Chik fil-a and have no reason to stop eating the food. I think the owner of the company can express his own personal views whether people like it or not. What he said about Gay marriage is not reflective of the company discriminating Gays who work at the company or customers who eat there. His company has a set value system based on his Christian beliefs.

I know not everyone agrees here about Gay marriage, etc. yet we should be able to treat each other respectfully in conversation even where we disagree.
 
Would you feel the same way if he was saying disgusting racist things? Just wondering.

My opinion is he has a right to his beliefs on his own time. I don't want my chicken nuggets with a side of discriminatory talk against any group.
 
to be honest personal views should be kept out of the work place, they cause too many arguments, people will always be against something in this world whatever it is and they will always let it be known
 
He was being interviewed by a religious organization about his religious views on gay marriage. He DID not speak ill or insult them. This has nothing to do with race. Apples and oranges.

He hires gays, and has never discriminated against them or gay customers.

You have a right not to eat there. But you cannot deny this man his right to set up shop. Otherwise ban any organization that sets up shop if the owner OPPOSES gay marriage which btw, is still illegal in many States and by our FEDERAL Government.

(No more business licenses to Institutionalized Religions)
 
JordanC said:
Would you feel the same way if he was saying disgusting racist things? Just wondering.

My opinion is he has a right to his beliefs on his own time. I don't want my chicken nuggets with a side of discriminatory talk against any group.
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I agree with you, if The person said something that was hateful.

But all he said was that as a company "We are very much supportive of the family — the biblical definition of the family unit.......“We know that it might not be popular with everyone, but thank the Lord, we live in a country where we can share our values and operate on biblical principles.”

Not exactly the rousing homophobic tirade that the media is making it out to be. Nowhere did they condemn homosexuals, or say they refuse to hire or serve them.

The ironic thing about this issue, is how it reveals that intolerance of other peoples beliefs and lifestyle can cut both ways.
 
In the interview he was not quoted as saying "I" believe in traditional marriage. He was quoted as saying Chik Fil A. So he is speaking as he is to his business not how he feels when he is in his own home and in his jammies with his personal thoughts.

So if you were gay would you feel comfortable applying for a job at or eating at Chik Fil A?? Discrimination is discrimination. If he had said Chik Fil A thinks black people are lazy or uneducated or prone to crime or whatever stereotypical bullshit.......would a black person feel like that business is welcoming them with open arms?? He chose to single out a group.

I'm not with him. He's on his own. I used to like their food but this puts a damper on it for me.
 
You are taking one thought and putting it as another. Why is race always brought up? If he was Black and said those things, would you even use your "what if he said racist INSULTS" analogy?
 
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You are taking one thought and putting it as another. Why is race always brought up? If he was Black and said those things, would you even use your "what if he said racist INSULTS" analogy?
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Ok what if he had said discriminting things to women......how would you feel as a woman eating or working there? Or how about if he said old people are useless they should be rounded up and shot after a certain age, they are a burden to society. And said....... this is how Chik Fil A feels with it. Would anyone be ok with him saying those things??

He used it as it applies to Chik Fil A. Not as it applied to his own thinking or for him only. So it implies this is their corporate policy and opinion. Chik Fil A will single out groups we don't agree with?? Who won't they approve of next?? I do not deny him his right to have personal feelings.

And I chose race because the OP is ummm black. I'm sure in this country he has heard words or been discriminated on for that alone.
 
Can what he said be taken as discriminatory? If you don't agree with him, then Yes. But everything is discriminatory in a fashion, nothing is going to make everyone happy. Is what he said hostile or malicious? No, He was simply stating the "values" he, his company and about a billion other people in the world share.
 
JordanC said:
Would you feel the same way if he was saying disgusting racist things? Just wondering.

My opinion is he has a right to his beliefs on his own time. I don't want my chicken nuggets with a side of discriminatory talk against any group.
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Ridiculous
 
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This is what Dan Cathy, CEO, said.

"I think we are inviting God's judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say, 'We know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage'. I pray God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about."
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Chick-fil-a has also sponsored groups who threw their support behind Prop. 8 in California and sought to deny gays protection against discriminatory hiring practices elsewhere. I have never set foot in one of their restaurants and now have a better reason to avoid their establishments.
 
Are those groups want those gay workers at Chic-Fil-A to quit their jobs? If so are they going to give them another job?
 
No group is asking Chick Fil A's gay workers to quit. In fact, they have said they are treated wonderfully by the company. Workers love the Sunday's off too, which incidentally, happens to be a religious decision incorporated into his company's policies.
 
Who cares? As long as they aren't discriminating against their gay employees, I don't give two shits what a board member or executive says. And anyway, I don't know where he gets off saying that they're all still married to their wives and that it's according to biblical principle. A biblical family is a man with as many women as he can provide for, as well as any wives of any deceased brothers or defeated enemies in war. I love how these jokers can conveniently reinterpret scripture to suit their needs.

And by the way, if I want chicken, I'll call Lee's. LOL
 
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A Chick fil A opened near my gym and I've been meaning to go there. PASS.

Dude is a bigot, like really.

Some people will always excuse discriminatory behavior or statements as someone else's 'right'. It's also the consumer's right not to patronize that business establishment.

The issue is whether mayors in Boston and Chicago can legally restrict Chick fil a from opening franchises in their cities.

Comparing his statements to making derogatory comments against women or Blacks IMO is totally appropriate. Discrimination is discrimination.

Gay marriage is a civil rights issue, not a church one. There's been no argument suggesting ALL churches are legally required to marry gay couples.
The debate is whether or not gay marriages should be legally recognized by states.

To be against legal recognition of gay marriage is just hateful and has nothing at all to do with someone's individual faith.

Conservatives really trip me out sometimes.

They literally destroyed the careers of the Dixie Chicks because they said they were ashamed Dubya Bush was from Texas, and now the Right is rallying around the CEO of Chick fil a for being an out and proud gay bigot.

I can live without Chick fil a.
 
I find the audacity of the CEO to come out and make a public cry against this civil right fascinating. Fascinating big balls he has, speaking for his company and therefore all those that work for it.

We all have the right to freedom of speech, however when you speak on behalf of your establishment it's wrong. Period.

He would have been better suited to speak on behalf of himself.
 
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