APPIAH
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Use some fucking critical thinking skills here.
It's basic English and you dont need to think much to get it but i guess that's why we have schools for slow people
Clippers Owner Donald Sterling to GF - Don't Bring Black People to My Games,
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It's basic English and you dont need to think much to get it but i guess that's why we have schools for slow people
Morning Star
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Update: Donald Sterling Banned from NBA for Life with $2.5 million fine
Mikey
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He does have an actual wife, the woman he was with was just "around" with him. I have to ask you and the others here a question. Do you think we'll have some kind of social upheaval against minorities before the end of 2016? Seems like we're headed that way and I'm not saying it with the intent to race-bait. I have seen comments from people on general sites who wanted the NBA and a lot of black people to just make a massive move to Africa. Also, the athletes in the NBA that are non black tend to have a citizenship from a foreign country even though they're white. They don't identify with whites who are genuinely "American", so I think that adds to the animosity that particular commentators leveled against Blacks after Obama and Larry Johnson tried to chastise Sterling.
orejon4
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He does have an actual wife, the woman he was with was just "around" with him. I have to ask you and the others here a question. Do you think we'll have some kind of social upheaval against minorities before the end of 2016? Seems like we're headed that way and I'm not saying it with the intent to race-bait. I have seen comments from people on general sites who wanted the NBA and a lot of black people to just make a massive move to Africa. Also, the athletes in the NBA that are non black tend to have a citizenship from a foreign country even though they're white. They don't identify with whites who are genuinely "American", so I think that adds to the animosity that particular commentators leveled against Blacks after Obama and Larry Johnson tried to chastise Sterling.
I do detect a sharp upswing in white male grievance in the last 20+ years and since Obama was elected in particular. I wouldn't be surprised if pockets of people here and there took up arms, but I have a feeling they will meet the same fate as the Ruby Ridge group, or David Koresh. This government isn't going to brook any challenges to the supremacy of capital and itself as capital's enforcer. It just boggles the mind that people in that mindset are able to blame people who have zero power over them for their problems. I choose to be optimistic however, and think that the upswing is the kicking and screaming before the inevitable end of that type of thinking. But I"ve been wrong before.
Sirius Dogon
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He may be banned, but Donald Sterling still wins
http://thegrio.com/2014/04/29/donald-sterling-banned-life/
NBA Commissioner Adam Silver announced Tuesday Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling has been banned for life and fined $2.5 million, the maximum fine amount allowed by the league. Silver also said he would do everything in his power to try to force Sterling to sell the franchise.
But even in punishment, no matter how severe it appears, Sterling still wins.
Forbes estimates the Clippers value at $575 million. Sterling purchased the team for a reported $12 million. Forced to sell the team and make at least $500 million in profits?
Not a bad return on investment.
Silver’s decision to ban Sterling for life was the right one. It’s the kind of move that will endear him to players and fans forever. It places him, in 2014 at least, on the right side of history — no matter how troubling and sad the Sterling situation is.
Silver should be applauded for his decision to exercise the broad power afforded to him as league commissioner. This shouldn’t be a viewed as a victory for civil rights, however.
That victory was lost a while ago — amidst lawsuits, settlements and deplorable behavior Sterling displayed for years that went unchecked. Will Sterling be forced to sell the team for $12 million?
Don’t count on it.
The lifetime ban is really a “just go away forever and don’t come back” plea. Silver did not address the league’s inaction regarding Sterling’s checkered past.
The lawsuits, the court filings and word of mouth stories from players and management condemning Sterling’s behavior just weren’t enough.
Sterling is just the latest “I’m not a racist” example of why even Silver’s announcement today feels so empty and distracting.
These stories galvanize the public and attract unlimited civil rights-related cliches. But Sterling is the latest — not the last — version of how bigotry can be beneficial.
http://thegrio.com/2014/04/29/donald-sterling-banned-life/
NBA Commissioner Adam Silver announced Tuesday Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling has been banned for life and fined $2.5 million, the maximum fine amount allowed by the league. Silver also said he would do everything in his power to try to force Sterling to sell the franchise.
But even in punishment, no matter how severe it appears, Sterling still wins.
Forbes estimates the Clippers value at $575 million. Sterling purchased the team for a reported $12 million. Forced to sell the team and make at least $500 million in profits?
Not a bad return on investment.
Silver’s decision to ban Sterling for life was the right one. It’s the kind of move that will endear him to players and fans forever. It places him, in 2014 at least, on the right side of history — no matter how troubling and sad the Sterling situation is.
Silver should be applauded for his decision to exercise the broad power afforded to him as league commissioner. This shouldn’t be a viewed as a victory for civil rights, however.
That victory was lost a while ago — amidst lawsuits, settlements and deplorable behavior Sterling displayed for years that went unchecked. Will Sterling be forced to sell the team for $12 million?
Don’t count on it.
The lifetime ban is really a “just go away forever and don’t come back” plea. Silver did not address the league’s inaction regarding Sterling’s checkered past.
The lawsuits, the court filings and word of mouth stories from players and management condemning Sterling’s behavior just weren’t enough.
Sterling is just the latest “I’m not a racist” example of why even Silver’s announcement today feels so empty and distracting.
These stories galvanize the public and attract unlimited civil rights-related cliches. But Sterling is the latest — not the last — version of how bigotry can be beneficial.
orejon4
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I'm curious to see if Silver gets the necessary votes from the owners.
Sirius Dogon
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of course hes insecure.....he tricks. hes a billionaire trick and NORTH is a fan. north love how sterling trick-off.
Bookworm616
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I'm sure someone brought this up already, but since I don't have the time to read through this whole thread, I'll add my two cents anyway. LOL.
I was reading the comments section on an article posted about this on the Chicago Tribune's website and someone brought up an interesting point.
This dude is 80 years old. He's owned the Clippers since the early 80s. You mean to tell me that he hasn't said anything this horrible before now??? I find that extremely difficult to believe.
I'm thinking that the league and the owners didn't really care about his views until they started losing advertisers and such and were forced to care now that the league's reputation and money are on the line.
Thoughts?
I was reading the comments section on an article posted about this on the Chicago Tribune's website and someone brought up an interesting point.
This dude is 80 years old. He's owned the Clippers since the early 80s. You mean to tell me that he hasn't said anything this horrible before now??? I find that extremely difficult to believe.
I'm thinking that the league and the owners didn't really care about his views until they started losing advertisers and such and were forced to care now that the league's reputation and money are on the line.
Thoughts?
Loki
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You are right on the money Books, from my previous post below..
"Not the first instance of this idiot putting his racist foot in his big yap..
"In 2009, former longtime Clippers general manager Elgin Baylor sued the organization for wrongful termination, accusing Sterling of cultivating what was referred to as a “racist attitude.” “While ignoring my suggestions and isolating me from decisions customarily reserved for general managers, the Clippers attempted to place the blame for the team’s failures on me,” Baylor said in the suit. “During this same period, players Sam Cassell, Elton Brand and Corey Maggette complained to me that Donald Sterling would bring women into the locker room after games, while the players were showering, and make comments such as, ‘Look at those beautiful black bodies.’ I brought this to Sterling’s attention, but he continued to bring women into the locker room.” Baylor later withdrew the lawsuit.
Former Clippers GM Paul Phipps told sports writer Jeff Pearlman that Sterling’s racism surfaced when Phipps was attempting to hire a new coach to replace Paul Silas in the 1980s. Villanova coach Rollie Massimino was interviewed for the job and he angrily called Phipps after a conversation with Sterling. “Here’s this guy,” Massimino said, “and he has this blonde bimbo with him, they have a bottle of champagne, they’re tanked. And Don looks at me and he says, ‘I wanna know why you think you can coach these n—ers.’” After the interaction with Sterling, Massimino refused the job.
In 2006, Sterling was sued by the Department of Justice for housing discrimination. The billionaire and his then-wife reportedly refused to rent to non-Korean prospective tenants and lied about the availability of apartment units to prevent blacks and Latinos from obtaining housing in the buildings he owned around Los Angeles. The Sterlings voiced a preference for renting to Korean tenants. Peter Keating of ESPN the Magazine also wrote about Sterling’s racism as it pertained to his housing practices. “When Sterling first bought the Ardmore, he remarked on its odor to Davenport. ‘That’s because of all the blacks in this building, they smell, they’re not clean,’ he said, according to [former Sterling property supervisor Sumner] Davenport’s [testimony during a 2002 lawsuit hearing against the billionaire.] ‘And it’s because of all of the Mexicans that just sit around and smoke and drink all day.’ He added: ‘So we have to get them out of here.’”
The Dark King
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orejon4
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Today's ubiquitous media has everyone scared of bad press and the damage of the 24-hour news cycle can have you hemorrhaging sponsors faster than you can say "racist comment". 30 years ago, this story wouldn't have even gotten out, because the technology wasn't so universally available.
Bookworm616
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I can absolutely see your point and agree with it for the most part, but look at what happened to Jimmy the Greek:
On January 16, 1988, he was fired by the CBS network (where he had been a regular on NFL Today since 1976) after commenting to WRC-TV reporter Ed Hotaling at Duke Zeibert’s Washington, D.C. restaurant that African Americans were naturally superior athletes at least in part because they had been bred to produce stronger offspring during slavery:
The black is a better athlete to begin with because he's been bred to be that way, because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back, and they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs and he's bred to be the better athlete because this goes back all the way to the Civil War when during the slave trade … the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have a big black kid …
According to the New York Times obituary, Snyder expressed regret for his comments, remarking: "What a foolish thing to say." His CBS co-workers publicly stated that they did not agree with Snyder's theories and that they did not oppose CBS' decision to fire him. Black former NFL player Irv Cross said in the 30 for 30 documentary about Snyder that he worked alongside Jimmy for a long time and didn't consider him to be a racist at all. In the same documentary, Frank Deford sympathetically noted that Jimmy often tried to sound more educated than he actually was, and that his comments were basically him trying to make a point about a subject he knew nothing about.
Snyder also commented during the WRC-TV interview that if blacks "take over coaching jobs, like everybody wants them to, there's not to be anything left for white people."
So, it can and did happen before the 24 hour news cycle started.
And Sterling had a lawsuit against him in 2006 for something illegal regarding racial discrimination and the league did absolutely NOTHING about it then - which is when they should have done something.
I'm not sure why they're so up in arms about what he said now. Oh wait, it's all because of money.
MixedCalifornian
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Boo hoo he is being forced to make millions of dollars, and have a nice retirement. He now is famous to, and probably has plenty of whores. Discrimination is rampant in the housing, and renting market.
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Sirius Dogon
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satyr
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A recorded conversation that directly references his attitudes towards blacks in sports provides a degree of starkness unmatched by court proceedings that relate to fair housing laws.
Also, the NBA has new commissioner in Adam Silver who (so far) appears to be on it in his administration of proper punishment. David Stern was a mealy-mouthed commish who over overstayed his welcome.
orejon4
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Let's not forget, Jimmy made his pithy comments on national television, so he served his comments up for public consumption. They didn't have to have someone record them. He put them into the news stream himself. I think that had a lot to do with their impact. I doubt a private phone conversation would have gone that far back then, but I'm only speculating.
Sirius Dogon
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NAACP LA chapter head Leon Jenkins resigns over Sterling award controversy
http://thegrio.com/2014/05/01/naacp...kins-resigns-over-sterling-award-controversy/
LOS ANGELES (AP) — The president of the Los Angeles chapter of the NAACP has resigned, following scrutiny of his decision to give Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling an award for promoting civil rights.
According to the national leader of the nation’s oldest civil rights organization, Leon Jenkins resigned Thursday.
Jenkins had planned to present Sterling with a “lifetime achievement award” later this month. Jenkins rescinded that offer this week after a recording surfaced on which Sterling disparaged black men.
In his resignation letter, Jenkins wrote that “In order to separate the Los Angeles NAACP and the NAACP from the negative exposure I have caused the NAACP, I respectfully resign my position.”
The national NAACP said it is “developing guidelines for its branches to help them in their award selection process.”
http://thegrio.com/2014/05/01/naacp...kins-resigns-over-sterling-award-controversy/
LOS ANGELES (AP) — The president of the Los Angeles chapter of the NAACP has resigned, following scrutiny of his decision to give Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling an award for promoting civil rights.
According to the national leader of the nation’s oldest civil rights organization, Leon Jenkins resigned Thursday.
Jenkins had planned to present Sterling with a “lifetime achievement award” later this month. Jenkins rescinded that offer this week after a recording surfaced on which Sterling disparaged black men.
In his resignation letter, Jenkins wrote that “In order to separate the Los Angeles NAACP and the NAACP from the negative exposure I have caused the NAACP, I respectfully resign my position.”
The national NAACP said it is “developing guidelines for its branches to help them in their award selection process.”