Desperate Housewives Finale

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Nellie

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OK, I just finished watching the 2 hour finale of Desperate Housewives, a show that I watched pretty regularly. (I think I am finished with it now)

For those that don't know, there has been a subplot involving one of the Housewives' daughter and a black guy. They decide to run away together in the episode before this one

Well, in the finale it turns out that this black guy is a murderer who had previously killed another girl, who looked like maybe an Asian girl or perhaps an Asian/White mix (see the pattern?)

Anyway, in the end, the police SWAT team killed him while he was pointing a gun at the mother that was willing to sacrifice herself to protect her daughter from this "black menace".

If anyone else saw this, did this leave the same bad taste in your mouths as it did in mine or am I over-reacting here?

I just did not like the message that this sends to such a large audience.
 
I didnt even know there were any other chanels operating on Sunday nights outside of HBO. Sopranos and Big Love.
 
Nellie said:
OK, I just finished watching the 2 hour finale of Desperate Housewives, a show that I watched pretty regularly. (I think I am finished with it now)

For those that don't know, there has been a subplot involving one of the Housewives' daughter and a black guy. They decide to run away together in the episode before this one

Well, in the finale it turns out that this black guy is a murderer who had previously killed another girl, who looked like maybe an Asian girl or perhaps an Asian/White mix (see the pattern?)

Anyway, in the end, the police SWAT team killed him while he was pointing a gun at the mother that was willing to sacrifice herself to protect her daughter from this "black menace".

If anyone else saw this, did this leave the same bad taste in your mouths as it did in mine or am I over-reacting here?

I just did not like the message that this sends to such a large audience.
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Yea I know what you mean. But there were alot of killers on that show. The majority of them have been white.
 
I agree. Don't get me wrong. I love that show, but the truth is there have been numerous strange happenings on there over the last 2 years. But with respect to your question, it did bother me that the dude got shot. What was worse was that the other girl was his girlfriend that he killed. (I did notice she looked black/asian, or asian-something for sure) Remember that bad people must be caught for doing bad things and part of this shows edge is that all the characters have some dark side to them.

As for the IR part of it, come on. No offense, but ya'll really can't be that naive. This is ABC. Specifically this is the America television industry and Hollywood. That means they simply aren't ready to put a black guy/white girl couple on TV nationwide yet. Why do you think their involvement in the plots and their relationship was so limited? I knew the moment they got together it would end in some form of tragedy. Sort of like when Bree's son told her he was gay. The writers worked with it for a while. But it ended with Bree leaving him on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere. Again, America is not ready for that sort of thing. And quite frankly, probably never will be. So, it's just business. Give it a few years and IR will be more common of TV.

Finally, I have a burning question that's been biting at me this whole past season. Why bring a black family onto the show after the fact, in the second season? Why not just have a prominent black family from the beginning, where the wife is friends with the other women on the show? My guess is it's another Hollywood prejudice, where a fair-skinned Latina (Eva) and her husband move in to make people feel more comfortable about the suburbs. Haven't ya'll noticed that the white and Latina women are prominent on the show? While the blacks tend to be distant and defensive, and the Asians have become the housekeepers. What's up with that????
 
hellspawn72 said:
I agree. Don't get me wrong. I love that show, but the truth is there have been numerous strange happenings on there over the last 2 years.
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Yea, they hooked me and I'm not a TV addict. I watched this show and Grey's Anatomy regularly. I'm not sure that I'll be interested next season. Lots of strange happening, but to also have it with the only blacks on the entire show and only IR?


But with respect to your question, it did bother me that the dude got shot. What was worse was that the other girl was his girlfriend that he killed. (I did notice she looked black/asian, or asian-something for sure) Remember that bad people must be caught for doing bad things and part of this shows edge is that all the characters have some dark side to them.
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Yes, it seems to establish a pattern. This black guy dates non-black women and he is dangerous.

I knew the moment they got together it would end in some form of tragedy.
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Yea, but why did they have to make him evil? He could have been hit by a bus or something.

Give it a few years and IR will be more common of TV.
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I agree, but for some reason, I feel like this was a setback of sorts.

Finally, I have a burning question that's been biting at me this whole past season. Why bring a black family onto the show after the fact, in the second season? Why not just have a prominent black family from the beginning, where the wife is friends with the other women on the show? My guess is it's another Hollywood prejudice, where a fair-skinned Latina (Eva) and her husband move in to make people feel more comfortable about the suburbs. Haven't ya'll noticed that the white and Latina women are prominent on the show? While the blacks tend to be distant and defensive, and the Asians have become the housekeepers. What's up with that????
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You know now that you mention it, there aren't even any blacks in Lynette's office or anyplace they go at all.

At some point in the show, probably when/if ratings go down and/or they start running out of ideas, they will probably put in a wealthy black family in to make up for it. The husband (Blair Underwood?) will probably have an affair with Eva.
 
I don't blame you for your decision to stop watching this show. It's no better than all the rest of the other prime-time dramas out there on broadcast TV with a limited cast of hapless and dysfunctional minorities. They ALL have the SAME pattern, no matter which ones you watch (O.C., Rescue Me, Desperate Housewives, Grey's Anatomy, ER,etc. THEY ALL DO)






hellspawn72 said:
As for the IR part of it, come on. No offense, but ya'll really can't be that naive. This is ABC. Specifically this is the America television industry and Hollywood. That means they simply aren't ready to put a black guy/white girl couple on TV nationwide yet. Why do you think their involvement in the plots and their relationship was so limited? I knew the moment they got together it would end in some form of tragedy. Sort of like when Bree's son told her he was gay. The writers worked with it for a while. But it ended with Bree leaving him on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere. Again, America is not ready for that sort of thing. And quite frankly, probably never will be. So, it's just business.
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Why bring a black family onto the show after the fact, in the second season? Why not just have a prominent black family from the beginning, where the wife is friends with the other women on the show? My guess is it's another Hollywood prejudice, where a fair-skinned Latina (Eva) and her husband move in to make people feel more comfortable about the suburbs. Haven't ya'll noticed that the white and Latina women are prominent on the show? While the blacks tend to be distant and defensive, and the Asians have become the housekeepers. What's up with that????
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Too many people in this country are so desensitived by this kind of garbage until they eventually start to eat it all up with a spoon.
 
SardonicGenie said:
I don't blame you for your decision to stop watching this show. It's no better than all the rest of the other prime-time dramas out there on broadcast TV with a limited cast of hapless and dysfunctional minorities. They ALL have the SAME pattern, no matter which ones you watch (O.C., Rescue Me, Desperate Housewives, Grey's Anatomy, ER,etc. THEY ALL DO)






hellspawn72 said:
As for the IR part of it, come on. No offense, but ya'll really can't be that naive. This is ABC. Specifically this is the America television industry and Hollywood. That means they simply aren't ready to put a black guy/white girl couple on TV nationwide yet. Why do you think their involvement in the plots and their relationship was so limited? I knew the moment they got together it would end in some form of tragedy. Sort of like when Bree's son told her he was gay. The writers worked with it for a while. But it ended with Bree leaving him on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere. Again, America is not ready for that sort of thing. And quite frankly, probably never will be. So, it's just business.
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Why bring a black family onto the show after the fact, in the second season? Why not just have a prominent black family from the beginning, where the wife is friends with the other women on the show? My guess is it's another Hollywood prejudice, where a fair-skinned Latina (Eva) and her husband move in to make people feel more comfortable about the suburbs. Haven't ya'll noticed that the white and Latina women are prominent on the show? While the blacks tend to be distant and defensive, and the Asians have become the housekeepers. What's up with that????
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Too many people in this country are so desensitived by this kind of garbage until they eventually start to eat it all up with a spoon.
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The cosby show did what nobody thought black shows could do. But this country likes taking one step forward and two steps back each year.
 
I saw that episode and didn't like it very much. I wished the brother would had been hit by a bus or something instead of being a murderer to confirm Bree's suspicions. I thought Richard Roundtree on the first season would have a affair with Edie but didn't. Now this happens. I will never buy the DVD version of that season. I don't expect a happily ever after of that brother and Bree's daughter but I prefer a better ending.
 
I also opt for an unfortunate accident, rather than the unusual (or usual) display of insanity, even though I didn't even see the show, and am happy about that.
 
almost all the men on the show are killers or have done something close to that. however part of me jokingly said to myself that the minute that boy got with the white girl he was always going to die. however i commend the show on trying out ir, DH is so popular and they did a brave thing putting that on so well done to desperate housewives, it was a good twist at the end. But considering he did what he did to protect his brother they could have made him less bad, it just seems like he became evil overnight to justify killing him, they could still have killed him but left him as the passionate good guy he was. i think its a good show as it is but i would like to see another black dude on the show.
 
It seems that we are not the only ones disturbed by this:

This was in the Chicago Sun Times

9:54p.m. -- Matthew is going to flee from the cops with Bree's daughter, but Bree says she won't let him go and puts her face in front of his gun. Just as he's pulling the trigger, cop bullets whiz through the window and kill him. That's what we need in the media, another dead black man prone to violence and killed by the cops in suburbia.
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He also comments on what he sees as subtle anti-Asian racism

In flashbacks, Matthew's girlfriend tries to stop him from breaking up with her: "There are advantages to dating someone like me, and you know what I'm talking about." OK, so she's of Asian descent. Is this some kind of commentary on Asian women? Really?
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I didn't really catch that one myself


Entire article
http://www.suntimes.com/output/elfman/cst-ftr-elf22.html
 
I think Desperate Housewives has some racial undertones. I think the black family is portrayed as the typical dysfunctional black family. Heck, where's the dad at in the show?
 
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